Good Bye FFXI

Enjoy life with your family and friends, and try not to find another addiction that takes you away from them again. A simple, "It sure would be fun, but I'm sure I can find something else that's just as fun but runs little risk of getting out of hand."

Just remember...

If you think it sounds like a good idea at the time...

Make sure you look ahead and see if it sounds like a good idea up the road.

I looked down the road and put a Shield over my main SE accounts to circumvent them from harm. I am down two dummy mules now though....Sorry to hear about the peeps that did not see it coming. I would assume that if its your first suspension ever that you will get your account back in 3 day's.

Neboh there's chance it's not perma. About 6 to 8 months ago I speed hacked in front of a gm and my account got banned for 9 days then got my account back after. Got way too many strikes to count - at least 6 or 7 lol.

What message is everyone receiving when trying to log in?

I know contacting support will simply be a waste of time so I'm trying to see if I can gather some information rather than blindly wait some arbitrary amount of time (if the ban is even temporary - which I'm assuming it's not because I've already had one 3-day suspension... albeit 3 years ago)

edit: for clarification I'm receiving LM-31 but as far as I understood LM-17 and/or LM-11 were designated for bans/perma bans.

Not too concerned just curious if it's even worth bothering to check my account and see if it's unbanned - or just cash out my mule and call it a day lol

From what quick research I just did, it suggests LM-31 is a ban, possible perma-ban, have you done anything that would warrant a perma-ban?

Sure. The fact that I have a previous strike is what leads me to think I'd more than likely get outright perma-banned, but there is no way for me to confirm this outside of calling them (lolnope) or using their archaic "messaging system."

I'd rather just know outright than be left with some ambiguity is all

everyone got the LM-31 message, even those who were clean. the LM system has no real set # for what it really means, its just the number the GM decided to pick when he/she did the query suspension, then they will go through to those they deem worthy of a full ban. Although I have come back and banned from LM - 11/17 and have not seen the LM - 31, they picked a new one this time.

What do you mean by clean? Are people getting banned without using some sort of cheat?

They used to be different, now they are pretty much interchangeable

LM-31 is perma ban, atleast it is for 3 of my old banned accounts.

How long ago did they use this msg to indicate permabans in your instance

Yo Konvict who's #$%@ I gotta wrap my mouth around to get unbanned bro? And don't say Tom Brady's, he works for NE not SE.

September 2014.

Cool - thanks. I'll wait the typical 3 days and then see what happens. My prior offense got me a 3 day ban though and I don't think there's much leeway, if any after that.

The green dot that follows you in salvage has been there as long as I can remember doing salvage and using FFXIDB. Ages before Adoulin. Not sure what it is but don't think it's GM/STF related.

Everything is based on "severity". Now what is deemed severe by SE, is a different story. What may have been less severe a while ago, may not be the same today. That's perhaps why Konvict you were allowed so many strikes. Fast forward to today, I suppose SE pressumed we would have learn from the mistakes of those banned in the past. But hey, if SE wants to ban their own income, that's not my problem.

It doesn't work like that.

These people were issued a review for ban. If they get banned, it changes to a specific number. If not, it changes to another and finally, if they're left in limbo, it stays on 31.

The GM doesn't pick anything, the GM only fill the review for ban, the GM doesn't review.

I've banned a couple clean guys back in Nyzul bans.

***happens, point has to be made and being part of a cheating group is never a good idea.

Every "income" they ban for cheating invites "income" that wants to be here because that kind of activity isn't tolerated.

Not necessarily, atm I am presently working on BRD Mythic, however just in case I decide no to finish it i have stored my alex farmed so far on a mule, at present I have darn near 90 stacks on her. And still have 213 left to farm

People might stop doing Arrapago Remnants II entirely at this rate.

Such a waste of a good member of the community.

won't cry for someone who exploited a bug .

Yes. I know of a couple people who have lost mules. One of whom doesn't use any third party tools.
And while the other could have gotten banned for using windower... They both lost mules for "RMT activity".
So children, don't use mules to store your gil on. Use the Garden treasure box.

Well, lemme put few points sekyuuntai already expose plus some i know for myself.

First, mistakes happens. The system isnt immune to mistake, as ban are sent by humans. In case of mistake, the system is friendly, as sekyuunati said, to solve those mistakes. You can recover your account in matter of days with a simple phone call.

Second, the rmt inspection can be done by the system. He catches money transfer over some limit. It seems that this ban is sent by the system, so it can be instant. But as before, you can solve this quckly.

My opinion: my mule have all my cash. For 2 times i needed currency from another server, but at that time, i had most my gil (something like 150m) in my main account, but i was planning sending my 1$ mule to another server. So, i transfered the 150m for my other account them redid it to my 1$ mule, and sent her. Both times, i never had any issue, so i supose the limit of cash transfer before the system accusing is over 150m. Not sure if it consider the frequency that cash is sent, or even if it consider the time the account is active. We cant forget most rmt activities are done by newborn mules, as the rmt chars are constantly being banned. I would say, for myself without any evidence, the newer your account doing suspicious activity, higher the chance of being detected, but thats imo.

Third, and my opinion also: i dont want to say the relate is a lie, but i find too unlikely instabans or bans done by single report. Lemme tell my experience while farming marrows for a couple of months: its knowed rmt for a long time farm marrows daily, at least here in odin. I myself always check my competition, their ffxiah transaction, and its clear there: items worth 10k being sold for 150m, from time to time. Even the few times i encountered those groups of rmts, it was clear they used flee hacking, possible pos hacking as some char simple disapear from my sight (and dont come saying *** thats my internet lag). Iirc, i reported them 4 or 5 times. In one of those, i even said to gm they were in zone, that the gm could check by his own eyes if they were using those cheats or no, and reporting their suspicious purchases in ah. I cant say they werent banned. From time to time those chars disappear and a new one is created, but that in particular lived over 3 months.

So, i highly doubt its so simple to ban someone just with a single report. As stated, mistakes happens, but its pretty clear the amount of mess it would result if they could be banned like that, with reports and no proofs, as the norm.

Knowing Neboh, somehow this doesn't suprize me in the least....meh back to work...

Games dead anyway, just consider it forced retirement.

The cheating and SE not giving a *** has run rampant for so long it's hilarious when they overcompensate by permabanning people after letting them build fistfuls of mythics, cap gil and other obvious exploits that any person not jerking off on company time would have caught.

Good show SE.

Trying the "repeat it until it's true" approach?

Lenus do you have anythinh to say about this instead of trolling me?

It's not dead at all. Lenus has elite friends that can do stuff every night.