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The Hasbara - American Media of Israel
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-09 13:36:53
In ANY other situation where a group of people try to make a claim on land they lost due to.... reasons.... hundreds of years later the answer would be a hilarious amount of laughter coupled with "go *** yourself."
Imagine if Native Americans asked for that pristine land stolen / taken by force back? What would the response be? God gave it to them? It'd be "enjoy your poverty, chumps."
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 13:39:07
Frankly if anyone's claim to land is "god gave it to me/us", I'd laugh them out of my sight.
Of course, they'd probably come back with a machete or bomb or something, because religious convinction makes you go full retard.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 13:40:52
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Imagine if Native Americans asked for that pristine land stolen / taken by force back? What would the response be? God gave it to them? It'd be "enjoy your poverty, chumps." Didn't the Native Americans get some of their land back already, plus reparations, back in 1968?
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 13:43:41
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »In ANY other situation where a group of people try to make a claim on land they lost due to.... reasons.... hundreds of years later the answer would be a hilarious amount of laughter coupled with "go *** yourself."
Imagine if Native Americans asked for that pristine land stolen / taken by force back? What would the response be? God gave it to them? It'd be "enjoy your poverty, chumps." Yet they didn't make a claim or "try to" they were given the land.
It's like if Bob Madeupnamenumber3 wanted to give land to poorlady#1 and she accepted it and then grouchyneighbor who had been using the land started shooting at her for her being on the land that was given to her. The part of her ancestors once having the land is irrelevant, the part of the grouchy neighbor was using it is irrelevant, it's hers now, and if she shoots back because grouchy neighbor can't *** deal and he dies, it's his own stupidity.
Now just multiply that stupidity exponentially, it's that much dumber.
Hell even add that poorlady#1 said she'd share it with grouchy neighbor and he didn't care, he wanted it all for himself.
Really, do I need to find an artist to draw this out for you?
By Blazed1979 2015-02-09 13:43:43
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »In ANY other situation where a group of people try to make a claim on land they lost due to.... reasons.... hundreds THOUSANDS of years later the answer would be a hilarious amount of laughter coupled with "go *** yourself."
Imagine if Native Americans asked for that pristine land stolen / taken by force back? What would the response be? God gave it to them? It'd be "enjoy your poverty, chumps."
And even according to them, they didn't lose it to Muslims or were kicked out by Muslims. In fact, they thrived when Islam held Jerusalem.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-02-09 13:44:50
Frankly if anyone's claim to land is "god gave it to me/us", I'd laugh them out of my sight.
Of course, they'd probably come back with a machete or bomb or something, because religious convinction makes you go full retard. There's a lot of things that make people go full retard... lets not give religion a monopoly on that.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 13:46:44
Frankly if anyone's claim to land is "god gave it to me/us", I'd laugh them out of my sight.
Of course, they'd probably come back with a machete or bomb or something, because religious convinction makes you go full retard. There's a lot of things that make people go full retard... lets not give religion a monopoly on that.
I didn't say it was the only thing. But in this instance, it's relevant.
By Blazed1979 2015-02-09 13:49:10
Not a single response about the actual post - you know where Israel admitted it was fabricating reasons to bomb palestinian schools with military weaponry.
Just a lot of sidetracking and people trying to deflect the subject and turn it into something else.
Other than Ramyrez and Sparth, (and fone with his lols) the rest of you have just shoved your heads in the ground.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-09 13:49:46
Frankly if anyone's claim to land is "god gave it to me/us", I'd laugh them out of my sight.
Of course, they'd probably come back with a machete or bomb or something, because religious convinction makes you go full retard. There's a lot of things that make people go full retard... lets not give religion a monopoly on that.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-02-09 13:50:37
A new IsraelvsPalestine thread rises on the horizons. I can't wait to read the interesting arguments already seen over and over, to be repeated ad nauseam again, by the same people, without moving their stances.
We're all gonna have a very productive debate I'm sure. Who mentioned Palestine?
This is about Israel and Lebanon. Give it time. You'll see.
All the main players are already in position. TA-DAAAAAN!!! ♫
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-02-09 13:52:11
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Frankly if anyone's claim to land is "god gave it to me/us", I'd laugh them out of my sight.
Of course, they'd probably come back with a machete or bomb or something, because religious convinction makes you go full retard. There's a lot of things that make people go full retard... lets not give religion a monopoly on that.
Final Fantasy XI
But only because Altana is the one true goddess of this realm and I am her humble servant. Her Warrior of Light. Winning a national championship...
Losing a national championship...
I actually think there's more rioting when teams win lol...
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 13:52:38
Not a single response about the actual post - you know where Israel admitted it was fabricating reasons to bomb palestinian schools with military weaponry.
Just a lot of sidetracking and people trying to deflect the subject and turn it into something else.
Other than Ramyrez and Sparth, (and fone with his lols) the rest of you have just shoved your heads in the ground.
When you bother to post something from a less biased source I'll bother to give it a read, but reading your hate filled nonsense is bad enough, not going to read another persons as well.
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 13:54:39
Israel admitted it was fabricating reasons to bomb palestinian schools with military weaponry.
Unclear from you're context here; if the schools contained military weapons, then the people keeping the weapons there are pretty shitty people too, using teachers and children to hide the weapons cache.
What I'm saying is, it's one big circle of *** terribleness and for ***'s sake maybe let's just stop killing each other for a few god damn years and see how that works. WE'VE NEVER TRIED, WE DON'T KNOW.
Edit: ***. I suggested peace as an option. Hold on! I need to batten down my hatches and prepare for the crashing waves of "hippie" accusations.
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 13:55:44
Israel admitted it was fabricating reasons to bomb palestinian schools with military weaponry.
Unclear from you're context here; if the schools contained military weapons, then the people keeping the weapons there are pretty shitty people too, using teachers and children to hide the weapons cache.
What I'm saying is, it's one big circle of *** terribleness and for ***'s sake maybe let's just stop killing each other for a few god damn years and see how that works. WE'VE NEVER TRIED, WE DON'T KNOW.
No, they keep trying, the people in Gaza keep breaking the ceasefires.
By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 13:56:48
No, they keep trying, the people in Gaza keep breaking the ceasefires.
Think bigger picture. I said "we" for a reason.
Edit: Somehow, I envision in my mind a galactic community that actually embraces non-interference the way they do on Star Trek and they're just like, "Naah. We're gonna let those *** on Earth cook in the oven a few more centuries. They haven't figured this out yet...maybe when the lizards take over they'll be more reasonable."
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 13:58:18
No, they keep trying, the people in Gaza keep breaking the ceasefires.
Think bigger picture. I said "we" for a reason. Fair enough, but how else are we going to implement population control?
War seems to be the only approved way, and people still have an issue with it!
By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 13:59:17
Fair enough, but how else are we going to implement population control?
I stopped sharing my ideas on this, no one likes them.
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 14:01:24
Fair enough, but how else are we going to implement population control?
I stopped sharing my ideas on this, no one likes them.
I'm aware, hence the second line, if you didn't notice.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 14:02:48
God damn, you finally admitted it!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-09 14:04:16
People keep talking about breaking the ceasefires like that means jack ***. If you feel your territory is slowly being eroded by settlements (which it has been) why the *** would you sit still and wait for the inevitable?
Israel has built illegal settlements on disputed lands then you're gonna turn around and be surprised when the people don't roll over? Eh, cmon bros. Israeli hands are far from clean.
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By Blazed1979 2015-02-09 14:05:38
A new IsraelvsPalestine thread rises on the horizons. I can't wait to read the interesting arguments already seen over and over, to be repeated ad nauseam again, by the same people, without moving their stances.
We're all gonna have a very productive debate I'm sure. Who mentioned Palestine?
This is about Israel and Lebanon. Give it time. You'll see.
All the main players are already in position. TA-DAAAAAN!!! ♫ awe snap. Ok I gave you a well deserved and earned +1 for that. I did actually have a good laugh when read your post.
Ramyrez - I highly doubt the palestinians that are living in the worst conditions on earth are fighting because they like seeing their kids bombed, their school burnt down, their houses destroyed... Cmon man, these are humans. If you really think they're fighting for the sake of fighting, you need to look deeper.
The more truth you know the less popular your views will be. Just look at Ken O'keef, Norman Finklestein, Noam Chomsky, Chris Bollyn and many others.. the second they started speaking the truth they were all knocked off the mainstream radar.
By Jetackuu 2015-02-09 14:09:03
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »People keep talking about breaking the ceasefires like that means jack ***. If you feel your territory is slowly being eroded by settlements (which it has been) why the *** would you sit still and wait for the inevitable?
Israel has built illegal settlements on disputed lands then you're gonna turn around and be surprised when the people don't roll over? Eh, cmon bros. Israeli hands are far from clean.
It's not their territory, their feels mean jack ***.
But thanks for finally admitting that they don't want peace, thanks.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-02-09 14:16:31
Where's Saevel? It doesn't feel the same to debate this if someone won't come in and call me anti-semite for daring to criticize Israel!
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 14:20:13
God damn, you finally admitted it!
I said I was preparing for the accusations. I did not admit to anything.
I shower. I don't have an unnatural affinity for hemp and hemp products.
And I've never tried to buy a sandwich with a poem.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-09 14:20:20
Where's Saevel? It doesn't feel the same to debate this if someone won't come in and call me anti-semite for daring to criticize Israel! Better question, where's Lordgrim saying that the Federal Reserve is to blame for the Israel/Palestine relations.
By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 14:23:24
I highly doubt the palestinians that are living in the worst conditions on earth
You need not travel far, indeed just a bit away from the Gaza area to the ISIS-controlled territories, to see people -- women and children, specifically -- in far worse conditions.
Then again, I forget that for some people, living conditions are only important to justify violence. If they put those people into those positions, it's just the way of things.
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By Blazed1979 2015-02-09 14:23:42
Hemp is the secret to everlasting peace. I'm not joking.
Hemp oil, hemp fibres, hemp structures,... and weed... lots and lots of *** weed!
By Ramyrez 2015-02-09 14:28:55
Better question, where's Lordgrim saying that the Federal Reserve is to blame for the Israel/Palestine relations.
Oh, I imagine so. Someone will always blame the U.S. somehow. As if we don't know we don't have problems of our own. But we try to help. (Pssst: it's often because we're asked to). And then if we don't help -- or, worse, when we don't help in just the exact right way -- we're the bad guys somehow despite the fact we're not the one strapping bombs children or hacking up political/cultural opposition with machetes.
The whole thing is just...ugh. I question cultures that value human life so little.
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By Blazed1979 2015-02-09 14:28:57
I highly doubt the palestinians that are living in the worst conditions on earth
You need not travel far, indeed just a bit away from the Gaza area to the ISIS-controlled territories, to see people -- women and children, specifically -- in far worse conditions.
Then again, I forget that for some people, living conditions are only important to justify violence. If they put those people into those positions, it's just the way of things.
You're talking about Iraq. Iraq was totally destroyed... and then a Shiaa president was installed that started normalizing death squads.
Nothing happens in a vacuum ...people aren't better than other people. People are just subject to the environments and circumstance they live in.
Was Iraq about 9/11 or WMDs?.. or was it about oil?
There are no people on this earth who are inherently and intrinsically bad. There are just the powerful and the weak. The powerful will rule and the weak will suffer. That is universal. Some are weaker than others, and suffer more.
You're all starting to suffer in the US. Lost a lot of liberties and the constitution has been undermined. You're in a better position than the Iraqis and Palestinians. But you're a lot worse off than you were 2 decades ago in many ways.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-09 14:41:18
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »People keep talking about breaking the ceasefires like that means jack ***. If you feel your territory is slowly being eroded by settlements (which it has been) why the *** would you sit still and wait for the inevitable?
Israel has built illegal settlements on disputed lands then you're gonna turn around and be surprised when the people don't roll over? Eh, cmon bros. Israeli hands are far from clean.
It's not their territory, their feels mean jack ***.
But thanks for finally admitting that they don't want peace, thanks.
So if a people feel encroached upon and their homeland invaded their feels don't matter when they're swayed to jihadist religion and a dedication to the destruction of their enemies - the Jews? Ha.
Religion thrives in the crucible of hopelessness.
Good article.
Quote: The US media, conservative or liberal, has become a loudspeaker for the Israeli government
Last week, Israel carried out a deadly drone strike inside the Syrian controlled portion of the Golan Heights, killing six Hezbollah fighters and an Iranian general. In response to Israel’s aggression, Hezbollah fired two anti-tank missiles that killed two Israeli soldiers as they drove in a occupied area along the Lebanese border. In turn, Israel responded with artillery fire, shelling several targets in southern Lebanon that killed a Spanish UN peacekeeper.
This is the irrefutable timeline of events in the latest Lebanon-Israel border clash. These are the facts, and facts do not possess a pro-Lebanon bias, nor do facts lean pro-Israel. Facts are facts, and the rest, as they say in the classics, is conversation. It’s the role of responsible and objective journalism to report the facts. The public should expect the facts, but in America facts are superseded by agenda-driven spin and self-serving opinion, and this dynamic is never more evident than when the centre of the story is Israel.
So that we are all clear and on the same page: Israel attacked Hezbollah in Syrian-controlled territory. Hezbollah responded with a strike against Israeli army military positions inside occupied territory. The Israeli army then kills a Spanish UN peacekeeper.
Here’s how the US media reported the above timeline of events:
CNN: “Israel under attack.”
The New York Times: “Hezbollah kills Israeli soldiers near Lebanon.”
Fox News: “Netanyahu blames Iran for Hezbollah attack on Israel’s border.”
The Washington Post wins the prize for delivering a headline that best represented the facts - “Deadly border clashes stoke fears of war in Israel, Lebanon” but then totally blew its commitment to objectivity by reporting a totally phoney account of the clash.
“The clashes, which began with a Hezbollah attack that killed two Israeli soldiers, marked one of the most serious flare-ups of violence in the area since a month-long war in 2006 and raised tensions in a volatile tri-border zone close to positions held by Syrian rebels, including Islamist factions. A UN peacekeeper was also killed, although it was unclear how he died,” states the Washington Post.
The US media, conservative or liberal, has become a loudspeaker for the Israeli government. When it comes to unfolding events in the Holy Land, Americans are told wholly and solely what the Israeli government wants them to hear. It’s astonishingly bizarre. It’s even more astonishing and more puzzling when you consider that even the Israeli press reports these periodical skirmishes in a more even-handed manner. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz, for instance, reported: “Hezbollah considers the attack an adequate retaliation to the airstrike in Syria last week, attributed to Israel, that killed seven Hezbollah operatives.”
It’s also striking when you compare the US coverage of the latest Israel-Lebanon clash with coverage from other international media outlets:
The Guardian: “Spain calls for UN inquiry into death of Spanish peacekeeper in Lebanon.”
Al Jazeera America: “Hezbollah offers Israel a draw but will Netanyahu accept?”
Sydney Morning Herald: “Israel threatens Hezbollah with full scale conflict.”
All in all, these non-US media outlets have reported in a way that entirely squares with the facts.
In America, it’s not just a case of the media shining a positive light on the Israeli government’s military actions, it’s that outlets actively propagandise for Israel. The cable news giant CNN is largely the primary source from where a majority of Americans are fed their international news.
On Wednesday, as breaking news of the clash was reported, CNN brought on five pro-Israeli spokespeople, and not a single pro-Lebanon guest. Even more concerning is that CNN ran a piece on its website that propagandised against Hezbollah by blaming the group for the 1983 bombing of US barracks in Beirut. “Hezbollah has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist attacks. It is blamed for a 1983 bombing that killed 241 US service personnel at a Marine compound in Beirut, Lebanon, the deadliest attack against US Marines since the Battle of Iwo Jima in World War II,” writes CNN.
The thing is Hezbollah has always denied responsibility for the bombing of the Beirut barracks. It has never been proven that Hezbollah carried out the attack, but CNN reports it as an irrefutable fact.
Similarly, the US media has always reported the Israeli bombing of the USS Liberty as a “grave mistake,” which is a remarkable piece of linguistic gymnastics given Israeli messages intercepted on 8 June, 1967 make it clear that the Israeli army absolutely intended to “destroy the USS Liberty and kill its entire crew”. 2014 was the 47th anniversary of this unprovoked attack and as was the case of the 46 anniversaries that came before that, nowhere in the US media was this “act of war” against the US reported.
This is not journalism. This, instead, is agenda-driven spin: pro-Israel spin. It’s an effort to carry forth the Israeli hasbara (propaganda) narrative into the domain of American public opinion. Since the 1990s, Netanyahu skillfully and assiduously “cultivated Israel’s image as a Fort Apache on the frontlines against the Muslim menace - and the United States as a larger Fort Apache that could learn from the Israeli model,” writes Max Blumenthal in Goliath: Fear and Loathing in Israel.
With the former public relations director of the Israeli lobby (AIPAC), Wolf Blitzer, at the head of CNN’s news desk, the cable news network has played the willing hasbara accomplice. The day after last November’s Jerusalem synagogue attack, which left four Rabbis dead, CNN hosted seven pro-Israel guests: Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz (twice); Israeli historian Michael Oren; Israel UN representative Ron Prosor; chief spokesperson for the Israeli Prime Minister Mark Regev; Israeli politician Nir Barakat; and chief spokesperson for the Israeli police Mickey Rosenfeld, and not a single Palestinian to comment on the violence in Israel.
Each CNN guest presented the synagogue as a religiously motivated attack; despite the fact the families of the killers said they were motivated by the Israeli killings of Palestinian teenager Mohamed Abu Khadeir and the death of 31-year-old Yusuf Ramouni, a Palestinian citizen of Israel who was found hanged in the bus he drove for a living. While Israeli authorities ruled Ramouni’s death a suicide, most Palestinians believe darker forces were at play.
Remi Kanazi is a journalist and editor of Poets for Palestine. Yesterday, Kanazi fired off a couple of tweets that highlighted the blatant double standard in the US media as it pertains to covering the Israel-Lebanon clash. Kanazi tweeted a picture of Israeli children writing “from Israel with love” onto the sides of Israeli army missiles during Israel’s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. “Media covered this as ‘this photo makes Arabs angry.’ But if it was Lebanese children, the media would have said "Look at these barbarians!" tweeted Kanazi.
This one-sided narrative and double standard is what help drives Islamophobic sentiment in the US. It presents Israel as besieged by religious fanatics, rather than Israel being embroiled in conflict with people who have legitimate political, social and economic grievances against Israel. A newly published Pew Research Centre poll shows that 67 percent of Republicans and nearly half of all Democrats believe Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence.
It is any wonder such fear of Muslims percolates in the collective American conscience given that US media presents Israel as a “Fort Apache” constantly besieged by radical Muslims on their doorstep?
- CJ Werleman is the author of Crucifying America, God Hates You. Hate Him Back, Koran Curious, and is the host of Foreign Object. Follow him on twitter: @cjwerleman
The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Eye.
Photo: CNN headquarters, Atlanta (Wikicommons)
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