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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 15:09:17  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years?
Because Al Gore said so! It was also caused by oil corporations and cow farts!
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-01-08 15:11:07  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-01-08 15:14:37  
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.

No but it's fun to point out that your beliefs cannot be entirely proven either and must also be taken with a degree of faith.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-08 15:16:54  

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Christianity will say who created the universe how long ago. God about 2000 years ago. Why? Because the bible.

Last I checked, Christianity wasn't a person or single entity. What does democracy or capitalism say about the Universe's start?
Do you mean the Bible?
The Torah, Talmud or Quran?

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What is your stance on climate change? Man inherits the earth and everything exists for us to use. Because the bible. Next question.

Is my opinion on climate change relevant? We're talking about religion, not my personal opinions. If I was an athiest and claimed climate change is bullsh!t and we should have dominion over the earth, does that count for or against religion?

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What is your stance on gay marriage? Sinners. Disgusting. Depending who you ask they'll also say terrible people the wreck america.
Because being Athiest means you can't be homophobic, and being religious automatically means you hate homosexuals. But then again, we're talking about religion, not religious people.

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Of course I have also met people who are Catholic, beleive in climate change are for gay marriage and believe in evolution. So again it depends who you ask. But as a whole religion promises certainty in exchange for faith.

So you have no point. You just contradicted yourself.
Even if you met every single christian out there and observed that 99.99999999% of them are anti science, don't believe in climate change, anti-gay marriage you still would just be dealing with people and not a specific religion let alone "religion".
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-01-08 15:18:39  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.

No but it's fun to point out that your beliefs cannot be entirely proven either and must also be taken with a degree of faith.

A degree, sure, as in almost none.

Religion, on the other hand, is laughably, entirely faith based.

It's the difference between the sun rising tomorrow and the rapture coming and sweeping us all up. If you want to equate the two to make yourself feel better, then go ahead.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-01-08 15:19:46  
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That is unfounded psudoscience. All science is theory and changes daily.


As opposed to religions infallible 100% accurate stories?

To be fair science isn't absolute and always learning. That's how you know it's legit. Only religion will have the audacity to say it has all the answers and is always 100% right.
which religions say they have all the answers, can you quote them?
Scientology.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-08 15:22:18  
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If you think I contradicted myself you don't even get my point, because they both enforce it. In any case I don't have time to explain, let alone argue as it seems you are more interested in seeing any negative thing said about religion as a personal affront of some sort. If you could set that aside you'd see that we have a lot more in common than you think.
wrong. I'm still trying to understand what image or phenomenon comes to your head when you say and think "religion". Especially since you seem to hold science in such high regard, I would have assumed you had some observable proof to back up your claims.


@Eslim: you're borderline genius or crazy. I can't tell.
or maybe just always high?
 
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-01-08 15:32:05  
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.

No but it's fun to point out that your beliefs cannot be entirely proven either and must also be taken with a degree of faith.

A degree, sure, as in almost none.

Religion, on the other hand, is laughably, entirely faith based.

It's the difference between the sun rising tomorrow and the rapture coming and sweeping us all up. If you want to equate the two to make yourself feel better, then go ahead.

What stops the nature of the universe from changing tomorrow morning so that existence ends and the sun doesn't rise?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 15:34:43  
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The only things that can be questioned are things we don't yet have a firm grasp on. Using those few selected topics as a means of dismissing all of science is the mark of, what do you call it, an imbecile.
Wow. No. All things can be questioned, that's kind of what science does. However, the question itself isn't sufficient to make determinations, the question (or concept) must be demonstrably/observably falsifiable.
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Most of science is absolute.
Or the opposite. Religion deals in absolutes.
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Drop a bowling ball out a high window and you can calculate how fast it's going when it hits the ground, the force of impact, etc.
To some level of accuracy. If you knew everything about the location, local gravitation, air density, wind speed, etc, you reduce the level of error between prediction and observation to very, very little (likely beyond the ability of your available instrumentation to detect). That isn't to say the calculation won't be close.
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.
That's quite a claim. Who claims that?
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The orbital patterns of the solar system centuries from now could have been predicted centuries ago and still be true no matter what new information we learn.
For some value and approximation of true. You will likely have coarse resolution, but certainly would have an issue trying to intercept a small enough object without course corrections.
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.

No but it's fun to point out that your beliefs cannot be entirely proven either and must also be taken with a degree of faith.
They are generally proven to the best ability/resolution we have. It is a far cry from saying "take it with faith".
 
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-01-08 15:36:40  
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That is unfounded psudoscience. All science is theory and changes daily.


As opposed to religions infallible 100% accurate stories?

To be fair science isn't absolute and always learning. That's how you know it's legit. Only religion will have the audacity to say it has all the answers and is always 100% right.
which religions say they have all the answers, can you quote them?

I guess it depends on who you ask and how devout they are.
That's not religion any more than anyone claiming science has all the answers is science.

Religion? You all keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Everyone keeps using the word "religion" to describe the ways of GOD. Religion is mankinds attempt to reach GOD. Religion is in direct opposition to GOD. We are to rely on Him, and seek Him with all our heart, rather than rely on our own works (i.e. religion).
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-01-08 15:38:30  
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Or the opposite. Religion deals in absolutes.

Also Sith
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2015-01-08 15:38:48  
>reads first two pages

jeez guys just get a prenup christ

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While that's all good and great, nobody, unless you married for money and deep down inside thinking that one day you might get divorced, no one will want to bring that up before a marriage. That's the kind of things that will always be in a fight between husband and wife, they can have a fight and it will become "my freaking god no wonder you wanted that clause in our marriage contract because you were thinking about your freaking way out already, I freaking knew it, I hate you", making a normal fight between couple to something of a deep scar. Me and my wife to this day still fight a

how's being 15 working out for you
 
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2015-01-08 15:43:33  
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Personal budgeting, or lack thereof, was a major factor in the economic/housing crisis of 2008/2009. I don't care what anyone else will say about it, nobody forced individuals in signing a contract.
Well, yes and no. It takes at least two parties for a contract.

Interest only no income no job/assets loans are pretty damn risky; the only time you would be issuing is if the underlying asset which will be confiscated under default could be liquidated for around the value of the loan (ideally more).

And, for better or worse, at least one of those parties should have known better than to be offering the loans in the first place. Since it is kind of their job to know better.
Yeah, but to blame the loaner for the borrower seeking out the loan (they would have sought the loan, again, not being forced into a contract) is ludicrous. The individual would have had to know that they couldn't afford the payments in the first place, but still signed on the dotted line...
If the borrower for a loan has no interest or ability for the loan to be paid back, then you will have a failed loan.
If the issuer for a loan has no interest or ability for the loan to be paid back, then you will have *many* failed loans.

Legislation skewed the table and encouraged banks to lend to people who could not afford to pay back their loans, specifically to thumb the nose at statistics involving the economics of race demographics. All for the sake of fairness.

In 2006 you did not want to incur the government wrath of being a bank in a poor area with a high population of minorities and only giving money to the ones who could afford it.

Are you blaming Clinton?

It would go back to Clinton yes, also Bush, Reagan, and Carter.

Really it's the overall idea that people deserve a house regardless if they can afford it or not, which certainly has a home in certain political ideologies.
I've always wondered if all those bad loans went to people who actually wanted a house to live in, or if a majority went to those who watched some house flipping shows on cable and figured they could make a fortune trying it themselves.
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-08 15:45:42  
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@Eslim: you're borderline genius or crazy. I can't tell.
or maybe just always high?
i am like that of the wind, swift in its accord but locked in circulation of a never ending weight that borders my shoulders..

also, yes i'm always high :>

def high !
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 15:50:11  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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The speed of light in a vacuum is something that won't ever change.

How do you know the laws of space and time have been entirely consistent over the last 13.8 billion (supposedly) years? Or will remain consistent in the future?

I don't, personally. Do you have any evidence that it has changed, or are you just asking questions.

No but it's fun to point out that your beliefs cannot be entirely proven either and must also be taken with a degree of faith.

A degree, sure, as in almost none.

Religion, on the other hand, is laughably, entirely faith based.

It's the difference between the sun rising tomorrow and the rapture coming and sweeping us all up. If you want to equate the two to make yourself feel better, then go ahead.

What stops the nature of the universe from changing tomorrow morning so that existence ends and the sun doesn't rise?
Absolutely nothing. However, to the best of our knowledge we can"t measure any such changes in existing laws, or any new phenomena which might lead one to beleive that the nature of the universe changes suddenly and rapidly in it's current phase.
It would be somewhat weird for the universe to key off an arbitrary rotational period of an insigificant planet in a dinky solar system in a single arm of mundane galaxy.


That"s somewhat akin to asking the question: How do you know you won't die in the next 5 seconds?
 
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-08 16:08:07  
Wat? The moon is actually slowly drifting away from us.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-01-08 16:08:11  
Uh we'd all die if that happened
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-01-08 16:08:47  
Probably just some crazy bacteria left and who cares about that
 
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-01-08 16:16:32  
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Uh we'd all die if that happened
According to modern astrophysics the eventual heat death of the universe is inevitable. Just fun fact everything we know will eventually be gone. So our only hope would be other universes. We they have some actual data to prove exist.
There is a book full of good news on that very topic!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 16:25:12  
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Uh we'd all die if that happened
According to modern astrophysics the eventual heat death of the universe is inevitable. Just fun fact everything we know will eventually be gone. So our only hope would be other universes. We they have some actual data to prove exist.
There is a book full of good news on that very topic!
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