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By Bloodrose 2015-01-08 10:03:30  
as Chris Rock put it:

There's a huge difference between being rich and being wealthy -
Being rich, you could lose everything tomorrow, or within a generation or two. But wealth, God damn, you can't get rid of wealth!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 11:44:15  
Not sure why there is so much angst about this subject. This quote pretty much sums it up.
"If the wife's attorneys are able to prove to an appellate court that the her contributions to the marriage should have received a credit greater than 5.5% of the estate, then Ms. Arnall should receive a larger check than what Mr. Hamm delivered to her today.

"Think of it this way, imagine that Mr. Hamm was worth $100,000 - which would mean that Ms. Arnall would receive a $5,500 payment while Mr. Hamm kept $94,500. Would that be fair? Maybe not ... maybe in that case, a court would have split the estate differently. If so, then I am not clear why the law should be inconsistent simply because we are adding a bunch of zeros to the numbers.

"The law is the law and I do not think that it should be altered because we are dealing with high net worth cases."
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-01-08 11:53:07  
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We've got dishes that we're not allowed to eat off. Table cloths that go off the table only to be replaced with other ones when its dinner time.
Made me laugh, so true. Ignoring the rest of the saevelness.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 12:00:22  
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500€ per month is more than I can spend. Money just piles up, not gonna complain though, it allows you to not pay attention to the price when you actually buy something expensive.

I usually spend 300€ per month and I do spend money on stupid stuff (cash shops, drinks, restaurants, cinema etc).
If I had more money, I would just buy everything I see instead of debating whether it's worth it, or not. But even then, I rarely go in the 4 digits unless it's something that is really cost efficient (like a computer or an awesome trip), so I don't think I'd spend much money other than buying a house, obviously.

I would make a pretty bad greedy wife.

Ah the life of a single healthy man.
I used to be like that. spend about 1/20th of my earnings.
Then I got married.
I still spent 1/20th of my earnings on myself, and she spent the remaining 19/20.

By the time you have kids your employer has noticed you're working harder and get promoted a few times. you double your salary over the course of three years only to get shocked by the cost of nursery, school, memberships...parties, gifts, clothing, going out... and the best part is always the summer vacations... instead of getting a normal room you always have to get a suite.
Oh and traveling first or business class is now pretty much the same as buying a new BMW, because its 5x seats.

You kiss your pimp studio apartment goodbye and buy a house where you've spent a fortune populating it with furniture and ***you never knew existed and no one will ever use. We've got dishes that we're not allowed to eat off. Table cloths that go off the table only to be replaced with other ones when its dinner time. Plants that don't even look pretty and require a gardener. A pool that devours electricity and a guy just to service it once a friggin week who takes 500$ for his 30 minutes of pretending to know wtf he is doing. ><! SINGLE LIFE - WHY WOULD ANYONE SANE EVER GET MARRIED?


Truth be told I love providing for my family, but DAMN it is expensive. I could survive off 300 euros a month including gas. It wasn't that long ago that I ate toasted cheese sandwiches with salt and vinegar Lays crisps 4 times a day with 4 diet cokes, costing me a whopping 7 euro.

Women make everything expensive.

EDIT: never mind did the maths, I actually do only live off 300 Euros a month. No fuggin clue where the rest of it goes but at least I have my sanity.
It sounds like you either didn't know your spouse for very long before marrying, or never lived together.
Also, budgeting.
Also, priorities.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-01-08 12:04:20  
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Not sure why there is so much angst about this subject. This quote pretty much sums it up.
"If the wife's attorneys are able to prove to an appellate court that the her contributions to the marriage should have received a credit greater than 5.5% of the estate, then Ms. Arnall should receive a larger check than what Mr. Hamm delivered to her today.

"Think of it this way, imagine that Mr. Hamm was worth $100,000 - which would mean that Ms. Arnall would receive a $5,500 payment while Mr. Hamm kept $94,500. Would that be fair? Maybe not ... maybe in that case, a court would have split the estate differently. If so, then I am not clear why the law should be inconsistent simply because we are adding a bunch of zeros to the numbers.

"The law is the law and I do not think that it should be altered because we are dealing with high net worth cases."
It's a thing because people see someone getting a check for a billion dollars which is more than most anyone will ever see in their life and watch em turn it down for more.

Whether it's fair or not idk and idc but you'll see that reaction from people regardless lol.

I mean for those of you arguing that the wife could live off that no problem you could also make the argument that the husband could live off whatever he has left if he gave her another couple billion because he'd still have more money than her lol.

let em duke it out in the courts and you can read about all the nasty ***they will bring up about eachother.

They've been reporting on a another billionaire divorce for awhile here and its the same ol' nonsense just more 0's.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 12:09:27  
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-08 12:10:01  
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500€ per month is more than I can spend. Money just piles up, not gonna complain though, it allows you to not pay attention to the price when you actually buy something expensive.

I usually spend 300€ per month and I do spend money on stupid stuff (cash shops, drinks, restaurants, cinema etc).
If I had more money, I would just buy everything I see instead of debating whether it's worth it, or not. But even then, I rarely go in the 4 digits unless it's something that is really cost efficient (like a computer or an awesome trip), so I don't think I'd spend much money other than buying a house, obviously.

I would make a pretty bad greedy wife.

Ah the life of a single healthy man.
I used to be like that. spend about 1/20th of my earnings.
Then I got married.
I still spent 1/20th of my earnings on myself, and she spent the remaining 19/20.

By the time you have kids your employer has noticed you're working harder and get promoted a few times. you double your salary over the course of three years only to get shocked by the cost of nursery, school, memberships...parties, gifts, clothing, going out... and the best part is always the summer vacations... instead of getting a normal room you always have to get a suite.
Oh and traveling first or business class is now pretty much the same as buying a new BMW, because its 5x seats.

You kiss your pimp studio apartment goodbye and buy a house where you've spent a fortune populating it with furniture and ***you never knew existed and no one will ever use. We've got dishes that we're not allowed to eat off. Table cloths that go off the table only to be replaced with other ones when its dinner time. Plants that don't even look pretty and require a gardener. A pool that devours electricity and a guy just to service it once a friggin week who takes 500$ for his 30 minutes of pretending to know wtf he is doing. ><! SINGLE LIFE - WHY WOULD ANYONE SANE EVER GET MARRIED?


Truth be told I love providing for my family, but DAMN it is expensive. I could survive off 300 euros a month including gas. It wasn't that long ago that I ate toasted cheese sandwiches with salt and vinegar Lays crisps 4 times a day with 4 diet cokes, costing me a whopping 7 euro.

Women make everything expensive.

EDIT: never mind did the maths, I actually do only live off 300 Euros a month. No fuggin clue where the rest of it goes but at least I have my sanity.
I don't get the business/first class part. Why not just go economy?

As for the rest, while I realize it's an option, I don't think I'd marry a woman that needs all of that to fill her life. Also 3 kids is more than I'd like. I like calm, all that you're describing seems to go against that, it's a bit scary for me.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 12:14:55  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....

The clear solution here is to make more than you can spend!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 12:17:32  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....
Eh, personal budgeting and risk management are different than corporate, which is different than governmental.
Each of those also serves different societal roles.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 12:23:22  
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
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Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....
Eh, personal budgeting and risk management are different than corporate, which is different than governmental.
Each of those also serves different societal roles.
I'm talking about personal budgeting only.

Governmental budgeting is hopeless as of right now. Maybe in 2017 we can start looking towards that again, depends though.

Corporate budgeting is fine as it is. If you don't make budgets often, you go out of business, end of story and that's how it should be. (inb4 "too big to fail" excuse)

Personal budgeting, or lack thereof, was a major factor in the economic/housing crisis of 2008/2009. I don't care what anyone else will say about it, nobody forced individuals in signing a contract.

Personal budgeting can mean the difference between living a rich life, and living a poor one. End of story. Anyone who denies that better have a very good reason to argue against that statement.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-08 12:26:21  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....
Eh, personal budgeting and risk management are different than corporate, which is different than governmental.
Each of those also serves different societal roles.
I'm talking about personal budgeting only.

Governmental budgeting is hopeless as of right now. Maybe in 2017 we can start looking towards that again, depends though.

Corporate budgeting is fine as it is. If you don't make budgets often, you go out of business, end of story and that's how it should be. (inb4 "too big to fail" excuse)

Personal budgeting, or lack thereof, was a major factor in the economic/housing crisis of 2008/2009. I don't care what anyone else will say about it, nobody forced individuals in signing a contract.

Personal budgeting can mean the difference between living a rich life, and living a poor one. End of story. Anyone who denies that better have a very good reason to argue against that statement.
I disagree, because Truth and Justice!
I blame everyone but me for my failures! DAMN GOVERNMENT IS WHY I SPEND MONEY ON ***I DON'T NEED OR WANT!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 12:27:39  
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Also, budgeting.
World's best subject almost nobody pays attention to.

Which is why we are in the mess we are in all the time.....
Eh, personal budgeting and risk management are different than corporate, which is different than governmental.
Each of those also serves different societal roles.
I'm talking about personal budgeting only.

Governmental budgeting is hopeless as of right now. Maybe in 2017 we can start looking towards that again, depends though.

Corporate budgeting is fine as it is. If you don't make budgets often, you go out of business, end of story and that's how it should be. (inb4 "too big to fail" excuse)

Personal budgeting, or lack thereof, was a major factor in the economic/housing crisis of 2008/2009. I don't care what anyone else will say about it, nobody forced individuals in signing a contract.

Personal budgeting can mean the difference between living a rich life, and living a poor one. End of story. Anyone who denies that better have a very good reason to argue against that statement.
I disagree, because Truth and Justice!
I blame everyone but me for my failures! DAMN GOVERNMENT IS WHY I SPEND MONEY ON ***I DON'T NEED OR WANT!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2015-01-08 12:33:39  
I had a talk about it with someone a few months back, and I still don't get it.
There has been a trend, something deeply ingrained in people's head, that they have to have loans left and right. Things they won't reimburse for years, if not decades, and they aren't even for a house, they're for things that are completely not worth it, such as TVs and cars.

I personally am the kind to spend my money without paying attention ever since I stopped completing a month with 0,02£ on my bank account. I never came low again, ever, as I only buy what I need and I only make crazy purchases rarely, maybe twice a year at best.

So, this person was trying to explain to me that spending money that you don't have is something that most people think they should do. He explained that the way people live, they need a new car every X years, and they borrow money they don't have for them every time. Whether it's to be that cool person or because they feel the need to have money, somehow, most people will borrow money they don't have on a regular basis. They will go negative, they will stay negative, it will never change, their whole life.

And here I am, only spending the money that is on my bank account, making sure to do everything in my life based on that. I always thought that I had to save what a house is worth in one go even, I wasn't aware of how house mortgages work, so I was wondering how people get houses so fast. Now, I know, but a house mortgage is fine. A "that new car" loan isn't, in my opinion. I'm fine having that 2000€ car that is in good shape and somewhat looks cool, I don't need the latest Citroën, Peugeot or Renault.

That's why I'm never really dreaming of being rich nor am I complaining of what I have. I just don't get why people force themselves in a hole just to have an arguably better appearance in society.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-08 12:37:16  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
That's why I'm never really dreaming of being rich nor am I complaining of what I have. I just don't get why people force themselves in a hole just to have an arguably better appearance in society.

got to make the neighbors look bad, hey.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-01-08 12:40:06  
Better ways to *** with your neighbors lol my personal favorite being tilting my solar panels so that 2pm is like having a lazer cannon at his house lol
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-08 12:40:25  
Siren.Mosin said: »
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That's why I'm never really dreaming of being rich nor am I complaining of what I have. I just don't get why people force themselves in a hole just to have an arguably better appearance in society.

got to make the neighbors look bad, hey.
That is a major contributing factor (at least in the US).

Having the latest/greatest toy/gadget is another major contributing factor.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-01-08 12:41:16  
Siren.Mosin said: »
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That's why I'm never really dreaming of being rich nor am I complaining of what I have. I just don't get why people force themselves in a hole just to have an arguably better appearance in society.

got to make the neighbors look bad, hey.
So how is the lawn fridge faring these days?
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By Odin.Blazeoffury 2015-01-08 12:42:51  
Unless she helped him earn it than 1B is more than fair. But theyre both greedy. She wants more than 1B and hes worth 16B, who's the greedy one?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-01-08 12:44:09  
Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Unless she helped him earn it than 1B is more than fair. But theyre both greedy. She wants more than 1B and hes worth 16B, who's the greedy one?
That was one of the claims that was made, that she contributed to the generation of wealth.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-08 12:45:04  
Being industrious and ambitious enough to work hard/smart enough to be worth 16billion, and doing virtually *** all and deciding a court ordered payment of roughly 1 billion dollars in net value award isn't enough, are not the same thing.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 12:46:41  
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Personal budgeting, or lack thereof, was a major factor in the economic/housing crisis of 2008/2009. I don't care what anyone else will say about it, nobody forced individuals in signing a contract.
Well, yes and no. It takes at least two parties for a contract.

Interest only no income no job/assets loans are pretty damn risky; the only time you would be issuing is if the underlying asset which will be confiscated under default could be liquidated for around the value of the loan (ideally more).

And, for better or worse, at least one of those parties should have known better than to be offering the loans in the first place. Since it is kind of their job to know better.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
So how is the lawn fridge faring these days?

lmao, it's easier for some of us then others.... gotta love when the bar is set so low you accidentally exceed it.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2015-01-08 12:47:55  
Lawn fridge thing whooshed me
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By Odin.Blazeoffury 2015-01-08 12:48:39  
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Odin.Blazeoffury said: »
Unless she helped him earn it than 1B is more than fair. But theyre both greedy. She wants more than 1B and hes worth 16B, who's the greedy one?
That was one of the claims that was made, that she contributed to the generation of wealth.
If she helped generate the mass of his wealth than she should be entitled to more than 1B. If i helped you raise 16 dollars when we started from 25 cents and you offer me 1 dollar, id be pissed. Its the same idea with bigger figures.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 12:50:21  
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Being industrious and ambitious enough to work hard/smart enough to be worth 16billion
Oh, this made me laugh.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-08 12:51:25  
Except there's no actual record or proof of her contribution to the amassing of his wealth.

And the amount ordered to pay via court had to be borrowed.

Being worth a certain amount of money, and having it are also two entirely different things.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-08 12:54:28  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
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That's why I'm never really dreaming of being rich nor am I complaining of what I have. I just don't get why people force themselves in a hole just to have an arguably better appearance in society.

got to make the neighbors look bad, hey.
That is a major contributing factor (at least in the US).

Having the latest/greatest toy/gadget is another major contributing factor.
Easiest thing with electronics: Look at something, then procrastinate for 3-6 months, see if you noticed not having it.
Rinse, repeat with the new hotness.

For better or worse, this has been pretty effective at preventing acquiring most electronic toys/etc.

Now, by all means, if you've budgeted yourself a treat or hobby, then go for it.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-01-08 12:55:49  
Bloodrose said: »
Except there's no actual record or proof of her contribution to the amassing of his wealth.

And the amount ordered to pay via court had to be borrowed.

Being worth a certain amount of money, and having it are also two entirely different things.
Maybe you missed this post?

There are many reasons why a couple wouldn't put assets in both names, even though both worked to acquire those assets.
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