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By Bloodrose 2014-12-21 16:34:17  
Turns out, the recent incident, was from a guy who lived in Georgia. Shot his girlfriend, then used her Instagram account only hours before travelling to Brooklyn, stating things like "I'm going to give pigs wings" and "they took 1 of ours, let's take 2 of theirs", which is barely enough time to cycle the information between Georgia and Brooklyn police departments. Depending on how soon the threats were reported.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 16:48:58  
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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani attributed the execution-style assassination of two police officers on Saturday afternoon to the protests that broke out across the city following a grand jury’s failure to indict a police officer for killing Eric Garner.

“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday. “The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all of them lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong.”

Giuliani then argued that most of the city’s violence is centered in the black community through so-called “black against black” crime and heralded the police for keeping African Americans safe. “Actually, the people who do the most for the black community in America are the police,” he explained.

Since Saturday’s killing a host of conservatives — including former New York Gov. George Pataki (R) — blamed DeBlasio or Attorney General Eric Holder for inciting the kind of anti-police fervor that led 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley to ambush and murder two officers, shooting them point-blank in the head as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn before killing himself at a nearby subway platform.

Brinsley, allegedly wrote in an Instagram post, “I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours…Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice #RIPErivGardner #RIPMikeBrown.” He concluded with, “This May Be My Final Post.”

Immediately following the killing, Pat Lynch, the president of the largest police union in New York City, said there was “blood on many hands tonight” including “those that incited violence on the street under the guise of protest” and starting with “the office of the mayor.”

Giuliani rejected that characterization saying, “I think it goes to far to blame the mayor for the murder or to ask for the mayor’s resignation. But I don’t think it goes too far to say that the mayor did not properly police the protests.” He blamed DeBlasio for allowing the protesters to “take over the streets” and “hurt police officers” and pledged that he would have confined the protesters to certain areas had he been mayor.

The former mayor also criticized President Barack Obama, Holder, and Al Sharpton for addressing the underlining racial tensions behind the failure to indict the white police officers who killed Garner and Mike Brown in Ferguson. “They have created an atmosphere of severe, strong, anti-police hatred in certain communities. For that, they should be ashamed of themselves,” he said.

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Disgusting.

He hasn't been a Democrat for decades now, btw.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 17:00:00  
Giuliani is spot on. This violence stems from unrelenting propaganda against police officers and profiteers playing a very dangerous game of racial politics. NYPD should strike until de Blasio steps down. See then how much people need the police and the excellent, dangerous job they do.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-12-21 17:04:28  
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Isn't it interesting, that article doesn't tell you the race of the shooter.. Unlike EVERY single article about brown... Two white cops killed by black man.. Where do we white folk go to riot, loot, and burn down ***!?! Oh that's right "insert comment not meant to be racist but is 100% true.) Glad I live out in the middle of nowhere, this is only gonna get worse from here.
It's only important to know the race of the shooters when it fits the media narrative.

The race pimps should be in prison, they have no regard for the gasoline they're throwing on this. They are culpable.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-12-21 17:13:52  
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He hasn't been a Democrat for decades now, btw.

yea, i stopped paying much attention to NY a long time ago...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 17:14:19  
So... they're "race pimps" for not providing racial information? Get your ***talking points straight.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-12-21 17:15:57  
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So much stupidity, that guy was a mayor, that's scary.

Bill cliton was elected, then reelected.
Bush was elected, then reelected.
Obama was elected, then reelected.

Scarey that Giuliani was elected, yea. Surprising? not the slightest'
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 17:26:05  
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We'll blame everybody else, but don't you dare criticize us.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 17:46:11  
They don't like Guiliani because he has been an outspoken critic of Obama over the course of his Presidency. They ignore the excellent job he did in NYC as mayor, specifically in regards to making it a much safer place to live. There were over 4 murders a day in NYC before Guiliani took office. Can you at least pretend to be above party politics for once?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-21 18:23:23  
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We'll blame everybody else, but don't you dare criticize us.

Well, yeah, that pretty much sums up everything you post.
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By Bloodrose 2014-12-21 18:23:50  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
We'll blame everybody else, but don't you dare criticize us.

Well, yeah, that pretty much sums up everything everyone posts.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 19:16:45  
How unexpected. Those quality NO U retorts really spruce up any discourse. Much thanks.

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They don't like Guiliani because he has been an outspoken critic of Obama over the course of his Presidency. They ignore the excellent job he did in NYC as mayor, specifically in regards to making it a much safer place to live. There were over 4 murders a day in NYC before Guiliani took office. Can you at least pretend to be above party politics for once?
Was this post completely contradictory on purpose or...? Guiliani was fine until he went full-tilt, Fox News GOP for his failed presidential run.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-21 19:18:50  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How unexpected. Those quality NO U retorts really spruce up any discourse. Much thanks.
You are correct, they should have just pointed out (again) what a hypocrite you are and left it at that.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 19:31:01  
I like it when you guys think you have something. lol

Anyway, would someone be kind enough to link Obama's statements saying we "should hate the police"? Similarly, for deBlasio as well.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-21 19:41:34  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I like it when you guys think you have something. lol
Well, hypocrites generally don't realize that they are hypocrites, so I can't really blame you too much. I mean, most intelligent people would have realized it by now that they are a hypocrite. I guess you just haven't realized it at all.

Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Anyway, would someone be kind enough to link Obama's statements saying we "should hate the police"? Similarly, for deBlasio as well.
Well, don't have to. We could just point out their actions (or lack thereof) to prove intent.

I mean, Obama had more than 4 months to lead the nation towards healing of a tragic event. Instead, he allows his Justice Department to investigate an assault charge under the pretext of a hate crime. This isn't the first time he did this where he failed to stop his Justice Department from investigating a crime under the pretext of a completely different crime.

We don't have to prove intent when there was lack of intent to change the nation's viewpoints and allowing the mob mentality to go wild. A leader shouldn't do that, if they were an actual leader.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 19:49:15  
Haha, "intent".

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“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday.
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would someone be kind enough to link Obama's statements saying we "should hate the police"? Similarly, for deBlasio as well.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 19:50:56  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
How unexpected. Those quality NO U retorts really spruce up any discourse. Much thanks.

Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
They don't like Guiliani because he has been an outspoken critic of Obama over the course of his Presidency. They ignore the excellent job he did in NYC as mayor, specifically in regards to making it a much safer place to live. There were over 4 murders a day in NYC before Guiliani took office. Can you at least pretend to be above party politics for once?
Was this post completely contradictory on purpose or...? Guiliani was fine until he went full-tilt, Fox News GOP for his failed presidential run.

In his statements that you called disgusting, you cannot refute one thing he said.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-21 19:55:30  
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Jetackuu said: »
So much stupidity, that guy was a mayor, that's scary.

Bill cliton was elected, then reelected.
Bush was elected, then reelected.
Obama was elected, then reelected.

Scarey that Giuliani was elected, yea. Surprising? not the slightest'
Yet only 1/3 are morons. I may have my issues with all 3, but at least only G.W. was a certified idiot. But at least he had some charisma, that smirk when he dodged that shoe: priceless. I'll give him that.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 19:58:53  
What's cool about the internet is complete losers that have done nothing in their lives can call people a thousand times more successful than them idiots.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 19:59:34  
Actually,
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“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday.
***. No one has advocated violence towards police.
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The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all of them lead to a conclusion.
This doesn't even make sense.
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Giuliani then argued that most of the city’s violence is centered in the black community through so-called “black against black” crime and heralded the police for keeping African Americans safe.
The myth of black-on-black crime is just that - a myth, designed to reinforce the idea that black men are violent savages.
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Since Saturday’s killing a host of conservatives — including former New York Gov. George Pataki (R) — blamed DeBlasio or Attorney General Eric Holder for inciting the kind of anti-police fervor that led 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley to ambush and murder two officers, shooting them point-blank in the head as they sat in their patrol car in Brooklyn before killing himself at a nearby subway platform.
They forgot to mention he had recently tried to murder his girlfriend. Not exactly the most rational fellow. But, you know, he was being mind controlled and all.
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“They have created an atmosphere of severe, strong, anti-police hatred in certain communities. For that, they should be ashamed of themselves,” he said.
We have the police themselves to thank for that atmosphere. And they have done absolutely nothing to relieve that image.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-21 20:00:34  
Oh look, Amanda calling other people losers, cute.

I wouldn't go as far as to say being daddy's puppet as being successful, nor having everything you've ever had (and ruined) being handed to you.

But hey.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-12-21 20:01:53  
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The myth of black-on-black crime is just that - a myth, designed to reinforce the idea that black men are violent savages.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 20:08:42  
84% of white victims were killed by whites.

There isn't a black-on-black crime problem. It's simply crime, the large majority of which is committed within racial groups.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-12-21 20:13:34  
I would have thought better of you, misrepresenting statistics like that. What relevance does the percent of total murders have to do with anything? It doesn't show the amount of total murders, just that most are perpetrated by members of the same race as the victim.

The same article said:
The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)
Sure seems like black-on-black crime is a problem if you don't cherry pick irrelevant statistics..
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 20:18:42  
We know there is a crime problem in minority neighborhoods. We've got poverty and drugs to thank for that. But the assertion that black-on-black is a special problem ignores the fact that crimes are committed within the community. If a black person is robbed or murdered, it's most likely by another black person because that's simply who they're going to run into. Same goes for white people.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-21 20:19:41  
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84% of white victims were killed by whites.

There isn't a black-on-black crime problem. It's simply crime, the large majority of which is committed within racial groups.

Quoting your article:
"Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide
victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8
per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per
100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)."

If black people are killing black people at a higher rate than white people are killing white people, I see no reason to be offended by the mentioning of a black-on-black crime problem. I mean sure, it's not the most politically correct way to say it, but it's still a problem that would likely necessitate an increased police presence in problem areas.

Edit: Apparently I took too long to create this post and was beaten to the punch....
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 20:21:42  
Black Americans make up only 13% of the population, but Black Americans were over 50% of murder victims in 2013.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-21 20:24:23  
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/44967/st-louis-vs-the-police-part-iii-apocalypse-nigh/10/#2758937
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Altimaomega said: »
Its not racial profiling,

Its Math.
No, it's actually cherry-picking numbers. According to the cited data set, more white people are charged (NOT convicted as your figure implies) more often than black people for:

forcible rape
aggravated assault
burglery
theft
arson
violent crime
property crime
forgery
fraud
embezzlement
stolen property
vandalism
criminal weapons possession
prostitution
sex offenses, excluding rape and prositution
drug abuse violations
offenses against their families
DUI
disorderly conduct
vagrancy

The cherry-picked categories in your graphic (murder, rape, robbery and assault) only account for 4.3% of the total amount of charges listed by the FBI. There's also no accounting for repeat offenders (multiple charges can be attributed to one person), and it doesn't account for the disproportionate arrest rates between black and whites for certain crimes. Also, the FBI doesn't believe in Hispanics apparently, which would impact the numbers attributed to both black and whites. Finally, the numbers say nothing about those who were released after being arrested.

TL;DR: taking Facebook memes at face value makes you a moron.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-12-21 20:25:33  
100% of human on human homicides were committed by humans.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-12-21 20:31:53  
It must just be that the racist police are letting the murders of white victims go unsolved to avoid having to arrest a white perp for the crime? Or are the racist police aggressively trying to solve the murders of black victims just so they can arrest more black perps for murder?
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