Read through the post, got the feeling that players from different factions would not be able to group together to accomplish some of the quests/battles etc.
If this is in fact the case SE has failed so hard.
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Read through the post, got the feeling that players from different factions would not be able to group together to accomplish some of the quests/battles etc.
If this is in fact the case SE has failed so hard. Nazrious said: » Read through the post, got the feeling that players from different factions would not be able to group together to accomplish some of the quests/battles etc. If this is in fact the case SE has failed so hard. I don't believe them. They said Monstrosity would be supported in further updates too. LOOK AT IT NOW!
Cerberus.Tidis said: » I would suspect that this content isn't going to be particularly difficult so won't be intended as group content anyway. But with the ability to see a weekly rating and transfer unities, and the top ranking unity receiving better gear from Wanted quests, it's possible (if the system can handle it) that everyone just runs to the same Unity. Assuming there's no differences between them that is. Exclusive objectives could be something like available to rank 1 only. I don't think it will be necessarily difficult....
It could just be stuff like "go kill Valkrum Emperor with a party of 6" or shenanigans like that. It's gonna be run through RoE... so... expect that style of "content". EDIT: also, I expect one of two things to happen with the rewards: a) they're ***low-level stuff that's not worthwhile to even DO b) they're crappier than crap, even if you're ranked #1 on your server I'm expecting it to be B given how the monstrosity gladiator torques worked out to be super crap. Because I seriously doubt they're gonna actually give super good ***to the one random person on the server who has enough time or cheats to be #1... ESPECIALLY given how this is "community building" content... $5 says it's gonna be faffing about content with rewards that will only be useful for if you want to level a new job. (eg worthless at 99) FaeQueenCory said: » also, I expect one of two things to happen with the rewards: a) they're ***low-level stuff that's not worthwhile to even DO b) they're crappier than crap, even if you're ranked #1 on your server I'm expecting it to be B given how the monstrosity gladiator torques worked out to be super crap. Because I seriously doubt they're gonna actually give super good ***to the one random person on the server who has enough time or cheats to be #1... ESPECIALLY given how this is "community building" content... $5 says it's gonna be faffing about content with rewards that will only be useful for if you want to level a new job. (eg worthless at 99) Considering it has it's bases in RoE content, and it's assumingly harder/more of a grind, I'd be willing to bet it's actually 119 gear. Your A and B are really the same thing, not sure what you're trying to imply. As far as ranked #1, that's Unity wide. Hence after the first week's tally, if the gear improvements from being ranked 1 are large enough, it's very possible that the entire system will be bypassed and everyone just heads to the "best Unity." Assuming there's nothing useful or unique about remaining in a different Unity. Offline
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None of the possibilities seem pleasant and my biggest gripe is the splitting of an already low population, which will simply exacerbate the situation.
If jumping is going to be so easy and not hold penalties, then why even bother splitting in the first place, a weak attempt to stir player vs player excitement?... very silly. Scrap this entire thing and add sub linkshells instead, and new drops to old NMs, the game needs some more claim drama anyways. If people are smart, they would all sign up to one Unity NPC to begin with...
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this game need battlefinder :/
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » If people are smart, they would all sign up to one Unity NPC to begin with... I'm sure Linkshells will encourage this, but people will always differ when given a choice. Choices for the sake of choices with out regard to game play impact is not beneficial. Leviathan.Comeatmebro
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unity chat is going to be >= 1/9 the server, kinda cool.. an additional chat channel could make solo stuff that much less boring if people take to talking on it
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » unity chat is going to be >= 1/9 the server, kinda cool.. an additional chat channel could make solo stuff that much less boring if people take to talking on it i don't expect much from the actual content though Will suck if its anything like Yell with derps derping it up and talking about crap that belong in /l or /tell. Sub-linkshell, {Yes Please} Worth While item on old school NMs, I'm game Non- Fail split up server nonsense content, Sure why not. Unity concord as described right now... umm no. A chat channel with the potential to hold a large population of the server? I'm going to need some popcorn for the drama that's about to unfold.
I like this idea. Maybe they can throw in additional notorious monster running around adoulin and need people to dispatch it sorta like wildskeeper except they not in same location. We see roe quest appears dispatch "name of notorious monster at location...." On our unity channels And we all rush there to kill for equipment drops.
A lotta potentials if they do it right. sub link shell might still be coming. Why people complain when stuff is not even implemented? I hope this does end up being worth it because if not I'd just be thinking about all of the things the people who worked on this could have been doing with all that time.
Like working on the upgrade to the Black Belt SE said they were looking in to years ago. I know it's going to be ridiculously difficult and the sooner I know what to do to upgrade it the better. Plot Twist: Black Belt Upgrades via Unity Concord. Asura.Cevlina said: » I hope this does end up being worth it because if not I'd just be thinking about all of the things the people who worked on this could have been doing with all that time. Like working on the upgrade to the Black Belt SE said they were looking in to years ago. I know it's going to be ridiculously difficult and the sooner I know what to do to upgrade it the better. Plot Twist: Black Belt Upgrades via Unity Concord. You want the time being spend working on a whole new system to be used to work on black belt upgrade that only monk can use? Lol sorry just sayin Sounds like more of the lets put XIV features into XI trend ex: Companies and Duty Finder.
BREAK OUT THE TINFOIL HATS IT'S DOOMSDAY FOR SURE EVEN DRAYLO THINKS THE UNITY CONCORD IS DUMB!
No, but for real I'm sure he'll reply. I think it's a bad idea to further segregate the community, this would've been better served about 10 years ago, when you know, people actually played the game... There will be (one) piece of gear that will FORCE you to do it. For that 1 DPS gain. And all the sheep will immediately flock to it. Doesn't look very inspiring, but will have to see it in practice.
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Lakshmi.Amymy said: » I like this idea. Maybe they can throw in additional notorious monster running around adoulin and need people to dispatch it sorta like wildskeeper except they not in same location. We see roe quest appears dispatch "name of notorious monster at location...." On our unity channels And we all rush there to kill for equipment drops. A lotta potentials if they do it right. sub link shell might still be coming. Why people complain when stuff is not even implemented? eslim said: » i've been asking se for something like this! finally i can get those last couple boring to getitems to finish my checklists x-x Maybe not even. Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: » BREAK OUT THE TINFOIL HATS IT'S DOOMSDAY FOR SURE EVEN DRAYLO THINKS THE UNITY CONCORD IS DUMB! No, but for real I'm sure he'll reply. I think it's a bad idea to further segregate the community, this would've been better served about 10 years ago, when you know, people actually played the game... There will be (one) piece of gear that will FORCE you to do it. For that 1 DPS gain. And all the sheep will immediately flock to it. Yeah /le sigh Valefor.Sapphire
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All SE needs to do is add dross/hmp/cinder/alex/hpBayld to the rewards for this new Unity system and it will have a place in the farming ecosystem and people will do it.
All I read was Unity Concord: for people that don't know how to make friends in game, have no linkshell, and need SE's help to force the playerbase acknowledge them.
that being said, I can't wait to join and look forward to watching the npcs factions slowly become NA or JP onry, with some EUs lost in between. Valefor.Sapphire said: » All SE needs to do is add dross/hmp/cinder/alex/hpBayld to the rewards for this new Unity system and it will have a place in the farming ecosystem and people will do it. It sounds like people will be fighting over NMs again which doesn't appeal to me in the least.
I hope that the system will be set up that no one feels they have to do that to make decent progress, but I'm sure NM hunting will be by far the most highly rewarding aspect of Unity. What I wonder is that will everyone in a Unity be able to engage and get credit for the NM du jour or will we be competing with our own fellow members as well as the opposing Unities? Asura.Echandra said: » All I read was Unity Concord: for people that don't know how to make friends in game, have no linkshell, and need SE's help to force the playerbase acknowledge them. that being said, I can't wait to join and look forward to watching the npcs factions slowly become NA or JP onry, with some EUs lost in between. I can't wait for this. {Gather Together} {Everyone} > {I'm Sorry} JP ONRY! Seems to me like a variant on the Campaign battle model except that rather than picking a nation/union the objectives are set according to which Unity people are currently in.
As noted earlier all it really needs is to supply R/M/E currency and upgrade items to provide an impetus for people to dip into. It seems to me that general activities will provide the accolade currency required to participate in the "Wanted" fights that will provide the unique drops. Essentially being a slightly more granular version of the way farming bayld from lair/colo reives and farming buys entry into Wildskeeper reives. Talk about jumping the gun.....we don't really have enough information to pass judgement.
Bahamut.Scizor said: » Talk about jumping the gun.....we don't really have enough information to pass judgement. Not that I had much to begin with, but square has personally sucked all the optimism out of me. (to me!) They never cease to disappoint, on some level, so it's not surprising we're willing to call a turd, a turd based on first glance, and most likely outcome. Given the cadence of patches over the last year, if you aren't happy now, I doubt you'll ever be. Honestly, the game seems better supported to me now than its ever been over its entire history.
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