Random Politics & Religion #00
Random Politics & Religion #00
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Thanks for telling me I didn't mean what I said. I'll try to clarify again. Poor people are a class of people socio-economically "below" the middle class and "below" the upper class. By that measure they are an underclass.
Saying "underclass" is paramount to saying "subclass."
To you it is, I tried to clarify exactly what I mean but at this point you're just not listening. I'm not buying this PC crap of "oh no you really meant this, and it's offensive".
We should not be importing a leaching underclass into his country. It's bad for the rest of us (including our own underclass of poor people).
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Then we don't really have a country.
Then I'm sure it will sicken you to know that I would hope the goal of the world is to eventually have no countries.
True sickness is associated with some kind of shock, and honestly I doubt you could say anything that would be so unexpected as to shock me considering everything you've already said before.
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Thanks for telling me I didn't mean what I said. I'll try to clarify again. Poor people are a class of people socio-economically "below" the middle class and "below" the upper class. By that measure they are an underclass.
Saying "underclass" is paramount to saying "subclass."
To you it is, I tried to clarify exactly what I mean but at this point you're just not listening. I'm not buying this PC crap of "oh no you really meant this, and it's offensive".
We should not be importing a leaching underclass into his country. It's bad for the rest of us (including our own underclass of poor people).
You are not helping yourself out by using the wrong words to portray your thoughts. You don't want to add "2nd class citizenship" to the ongoing list of insults people will use against you in reference to your viewpoints (see: garbage trucks, earthquakes, etc.)
Gotta say, I didn't expect KN vs. Nausi to be this enjoyable
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This isn't the first time we argued about topics.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Thanks for telling me I didn't mean what I said. I'll try to clarify again. Poor people are a class of people socio-economically "below" the middle class and "below" the upper class. By that measure they are an underclass.
Saying "underclass" is paramount to saying "subclass."
To you it is, I tried to clarify exactly what I mean but at this point you're just not listening. I'm not buying this PC crap of "oh no you really meant this, and it's offensive".
We should not be importing a leaching underclass into his country. It's bad for the rest of us (including our own underclass of poor people).
You are not helping yourself out by using the wrong words to portray your thoughts. You don't want to add "2nd class citizenship" to the ongoing list of insults people will use against you in reference to your viewpoints (see: garbage trucks, earthquakes, etc.)
Have you looked it up in Google yet?
un·der·class
ˈəndərˌklas/
noun
the lowest social stratum in a country or community, consisting of the poor and unemployed.
Where am I improperly using "underclass"?
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Explain how it isn't a luxury to have more than one child at this time in history, from a pragmatic standpoint?
Again, you're taking offense at me calling children a luxury. Would you be offended if I called owning a home a luxury? Going to the movies? Ice cream?
You don't need them to work on a family farm and help keep the family alive. The race's future is assured one way or another. While tragedies happen, true, it's not expected that you'll have children die as it was in decades and centuries past.
Having children is the same as owning a luxury car. It's not necessary. It's just very nice for some people. A very rewarding, moving experience for some.
But it is not a necessity.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Maybe just everyday is the worst day so it doesn't matter what day it is.
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Ramyrez said: »
Explain how it isn't a luxury to have more than one child at this time in history, from a pragmatic standpoint?
Again, you're taking offense at enjoying a luxury. You don't need them to work on a family farm and help keep the family alive. The race's future is assured one way or another. While tragedies happen, true, it's not expected that you'll have children die as it was in decades and centuries past.
Having children is the same as owning a luxury car. It's not necessary. It's just very nice for some people.
Again, you're taking offense at enjoying a luxury. You don't need them to work on a family farm and help keep the family alive. The race's future is assured one way or another. While tragedies happen, true, it's not expected that you'll have children die as it was in decades and centuries past.
Having children is the same as owning a luxury car. It's not necessary. It's just very nice for some people.
You don't want to have kids. We get it. Stop assuming everyone else should hold the same values you do.
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Drama Torama said: »
You don't want to have kids. We get it. Stop assuming everyone else should hold the same values you do.
It's not about me not wanting to have kids.
I'm saying there's no reason to have a bunch of them beyond your own desire to do so.
And that's okay. But it is the case.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
...in reference to your viewpoints (see: garbage trucks, earthquakes, etc.)
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Ramyrez said: »
Drama Torama said: »
You don't want to have kids. We get it. Stop assuming everyone else should hold the same values you do.
It's not about me not wanting to have kids.
I'm saying there's no reason to have a bunch of them beyond your own desire to do so.
And that's okay. But it is the case.
There's no reason to do a vast majority of the stuff we humans do. We're able to find fulfillment in things that have little to no bearing on our basic survival needs. Singling out kids just makes you sound bitter.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Singling out kids just makes you sound bitter.
I wasn't the one who brought up the topic of population.
And it is not incorrect or inappropriate to say that there are places in the world that overpopulation issues secondary to religious or otherwise societal pressures and beliefs/practices. Beliefs and practices that were established centuries past when you needed that many births to fuel a society.
I'm not going to throw salt onto a wound.
Ramyrez said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Singling out kids just makes you sound bitter.
I wasn't the one who brought up the topic of population.
And it is not incorrect or inappropriate to say that there are places in the world that overpopulation issues secondary to religious or otherwise societal pressures and beliefs/practices. Beliefs and practices that were established centuries past when you needed that many births to fuel a society.
So what's your plan? Make having large families illegal, like in China? Let's not get into a slippery slope argument about denying people basic human rights for the "greater good" of society.
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Since when did immigration reform turn into getting busy?
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since when did immigration reform turn into getting busy?
Rule 34?
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since when did immigration reform turn into getting busy?
That might make people pay more attention to it, so don't quash this line of thinking just yet
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Let's not get into a slippery slope argument about denying people basic human rights for the "greater good" of society.
K.
Pretty sure it's been had here already anyhow.
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since when did immigration reform turn into getting busy?
"Latina prostitutes."
Use those words and all of a sudden the rich right wingers with aging wives are a lot more interested in what kind of "low wage workers" they can make legal.
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Well, we should allow more sexy immigrants to stay in our country while we kick out the butt ugly ones (and butt ugly citizens while we are at it) for our own personal playboy mansion benefit.
At least it will make the country better looking in a few generations.
At least it will make the country better looking in a few generations.
"Like Ellis Island, but for hookers"
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