Random Politics & Religion #00
Random Politics & Religion #00
Not to split hairs, but wasn't Bush's 90% just after 9/11 where disproving of the president got you labeled a terrorist and questioned by the FBI at length, possibly with bamboo shoots under your toenails?
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I wonder how many presidents people are capable of judging honestly and objectively for only their own efforts and not outside influence that is beyond their control. For example it's pretty hard to have your population swimming in gold when the entire world economy is heading towards reboot.
edit: it's a generic statement, I don't particularly know anything about Obama's economic policies. Or any other us president for that matter.
edit: it's a generic statement, I don't particularly know anything about Obama's economic policies. Or any other us president for that matter.
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Obama doesn't have good final term numbers to win a 3rd term if that were possible. You're the one bringing up statistics that actually work more against your argument than for it. Also, your zingers need some serious work. I get embarrassed for you every time I see them.
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Term limits are very important and should be extended to senators and the House of Representatives and all other government positions. Perhaps even the Supreme Court.
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
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Obama's term average - 47%
Reagan's term average - 52%
Obama's term average - 47%
Reagan's term average - 52%
Yeah, and Jimmy Carter averaged 45.5%. You're not making your case very well, and average doesn't mean squat for reelection compared to the final term percentages.
Never mind it was he first week in office, and it had dropped ever since.
Also never mind that Bush had an approval rating of 90 once also.
Despite that 90% he still averaged 49.6% overall.
Nope, with a second term approval of 36.5% he is not.
The reason we are even on this is because of me saying I think a president should be allowed a third term, and you questioned if I was impartial on the matter by invoking the cowboy who is afraid of horses.
Like I said before, you don't understand percentages, and now it seems like you don't understand statistics either.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't particularly know anything about Obama's economic policies.
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Ramyrez said: »
Not to split hairs, but wasn't Bush's 90% just after 9/11 where disproving of the president got you labeled a terrorist and questioned by the FBI at length, possibly with bamboo shoots under your toenails?
I'm not going to deny that it was inflated, given the circumstances at the time.
However, given that Obama has done nothing and had his highest approval rating in his entire career isn't saying much about the man...
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Par, for the course in the case of how high others have set the bar.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Term limits are very important and should be extended to senators and the House of Representatives and all other government positions. Perhaps even the Supreme Court.
Supreme Justices on the other hand...it would be hard to impose...
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And still doing worse than the historical average for America.
The PI(I)GS nations are obviously not doing so well. But Germany is doing very well compared to the U.S., well that is until their immigration problem starts taking more of a toll.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And still doing worse than the historical average for America.
Since that is the only way to determine how well an economy in a nation is doing, and is also the basis of your argument...
GDP is influenced by multiple factors, of which governmental regulations play a key roll in it. Having a restrictive governmental policy put in place effects negatively GDP, and we have had a lot of restrictive governmental policies for the past 7 years...
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
This is also why we need to put a term limit on ALL political seats. Why would only the president have a limit on number of terms served? Political office should not be a life long position of power. This sort of thing is not much different than being a king.
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And it's not like once elected, they are there for life. They still need to be reelected once every 2 or 6 years, depending on the job....
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't particularly know anything about Obama's economic policies.
Economic policy is dictated by banks and bankers.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
That is the whole point of allowing a third term though. Have to win it after a second term everyone averages lower in.
Everyone? No, Clinton and Reagan had better averages in their second term. You know, the people I actually said might win a third term.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
is also the basis of your argument
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
The PI(I)GS nations are obviously not doing so well. But Germany is doing very well compared to the U.S., well that is until their immigration problem starts taking more of a toll.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
Taking Germany and comparing it to America is like taking Texas and comparing it to Europe. It's not really accurate to do so because you are taking a strong region and comparing it to a much larger and separate region.
It would be more honest to take Germany and compare it to Europe than it is to compare it to America...
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
is also the basis of your argument
Let's at least start with that.
I don't think GDP is a realistic way to determine how well an economy is doing in terms of optimal employment, labor participation rate, quality of life, and PPP.
For example, you can a country with an enormous GDP or increase in GDP, but if too few people aren't working, can't find employment to sustain their living, it's not an overall effective economy.
For example, you can a country with an enormous GDP or increase in GDP, but if too few people aren't working, can't find employment to sustain their living, it's not an overall effective economy.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
The PI(I)GS nations are obviously not doing so well. But Germany is doing very well compared to the U.S., well that is until their immigration problem starts taking more of a toll.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
I'd actually have to look at some numbers for the rest of Europe.
Currency wise, EUR is doing better than the USD in terms of value. Definitely not the only measurement though.
Taking Germany and comparing it to America is like taking Texas and comparing it to Europe. It's not really accurate to do so because you are taking a strong region and comparing it to a much larger and separate region.
It would be more honest to take Germany and compare it to Europe than it is to compare it to America...
Can't really compare Germany to even Europe because it is a beneficiary of EU policies where as nations like Greece or Portugal will get the shaft.
How is that being a beneficiary?
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
It would be more honest to take Germany and compare it to Europe than it is to compare it to America...
But the whole GDP growth isn't an accurate measurement, imo.
Economies can't grow forever. See my previous post on just making sure people are working and being able to pay for the things they want and need, etc.
Along with term limits we need age limits. Bernie Sanders too old !
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