Random Politics & Religion #00

言語: JP EN DE FR
2010-06-21
New Items
users online
フォーラム » Everything Else » Politics and Religion » Random Politics & Religion #00
Random Politics & Religion #00
First Page 2 3 ... 848 849 850 ... 1375 1376 1377
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 20:36:36  
On a serious note:

While I don't agree with Nausi's stance on "liberalism is a mental disorder" or any other aggressive attacks on a specific group of people because of their viewpoints, you have to admit that, on this website, this is not a one-way street.

Aggressive behavior has been shown on both sides, but only one side is usually targeted (publicly at least).

I may be aggressive towards people's stances from time to time, like how a specific person's viewpoint on tax laws is not only wrong, but his refusal to even accept basic principles and, when presented sources, goes right back to saying the same ***over and over again like I didn't even refute his first stance to begin with is not the same as attacking that person. I'm just attacking that person's unwillingness to learn.
 Phoenix.Amandarius
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3686
By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-14 20:43:19  
Liberalism is more of just a symptom of a mental disorder; that anomaly of self-loathing mixed with arrogance and a condescending demeanor.
[+]
 Shiva.Viciousss
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Viciouss
Posts: 8022
By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-08-14 20:45:28  
Thats really helping your case there, Aman.
[+]
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:03:18  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Putting another of your insults aside, how does a group that wanted smaller government and less taxes in anyway Authoritarian? Or is Tea Party your catch-all much like you accuse me of doing?

Trying to enact laws that dictate how people can live their life... Sounds dead on.

What law was this that the "tea party" wanted to enact?

I have the feeling you are about to label some random lawmaker in a random state house a tea partier and then make a blanket statement about the Tea Party.

HR3... why is Viagra on to spend tax money on but a medical procedure, sometimes necessary to a woman's life, not? A classic example of authoritarian religious right ideology, and introduced and sponsored by multiple members of the tea party. There's about 40 other bills introduced in the last 20 years by members of the national Congress that are either tea party or joined the tea party, and that's not counting the hundreds of even more authoritarian bull pushed in state houses.

Also. I don't think I've ever used the term tea bagger, but that assumption is emblematic of your persecution complex.

Random, unspecific bills by anonymous people that you are labeling as tea party and asking me to answer for. Hmmm yeah OK Buddy. Are you done not making your point?

HR3... That's the bill, the HR means House of Representatives, the 3 means the third introduced in the congressional session. You could look it up really really easily and see the name of the legislator who introduced it and it's cosponsors. I don't bother to link anything for you anymore because you either don't read it or say it's liberal propaganda then taunt anyone who calls out your crap and accuse them of taunts and insults.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:11:38  
HR3 is about the keystone pipeline.....
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:12:30  
HR3 114th congress
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:16:52  
HR3 112th Congress
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 21:16:55  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Putting another of your insults aside, how does a group that wanted smaller government and less taxes in anyway Authoritarian? Or is Tea Party your catch-all much like you accuse me of doing?

Trying to enact laws that dictate how people can live their life... Sounds dead on.

What law was this that the "tea party" wanted to enact?

I have the feeling you are about to label some random lawmaker in a random state house a tea partier and then make a blanket statement about the Tea Party.

HR3... why is Viagra on to spend tax money on but a medical procedure, sometimes necessary to a woman's life, not? A classic example of authoritarian religious right ideology, and introduced and sponsored by multiple members of the tea party. There's about 40 other bills introduced in the last 20 years by members of the national Congress that are either tea party or joined the tea party, and that's not counting the hundreds of even more authoritarian bull pushed in state houses.

Also. I don't think I've ever used the term tea bagger, but that assumption is emblematic of your persecution complex.

Random, unspecific bills by anonymous people that you are labeling as tea party and asking me to answer for. Hmmm yeah OK Buddy. Are you done not making your point?

HR3... That's the bill, the HR means House of Representatives, the 3 means the third introduced in this congressional session. You could look it up really really easily and see the name of the legislator who introduced it and it's cosponsors. I don't bother to link anything for you anymore because you either don't read it or say it's liberal propaganda then taunt anyone who calls out your crap and accuse them of taunts and insults.
What does the Keystone Pipeline bill have anything to do with anything medical related?

H.R. #3 114th Congress

Can't use the excuse "I meant the last Congress" either, since it's pretty much the same bill...

H.R. #3 113th Congress
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 21:17:51  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Well, you have to be more specific next time.

Don't forget that the bill numbers reset every 2 years....
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:18:09  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Putting another of your insults aside, how does a group that wanted smaller government and less taxes in anyway Authoritarian? Or is Tea Party your catch-all much like you accuse me of doing?

Trying to enact laws that dictate how people can live their life... Sounds dead on.

What law was this that the "tea party" wanted to enact?

I have the feeling you are about to label some random lawmaker in a random state house a tea partier and then make a blanket statement about the Tea Party.

HR3... why is Viagra on to spend tax money on but a medical procedure, sometimes necessary to a woman's life, not? A classic example of authoritarian religious right ideology, and introduced and sponsored by multiple members of the tea party. There's about 40 other bills introduced in the last 20 years by members of the national Congress that are either tea party or joined the tea party, and that's not counting the hundreds of even more authoritarian bull pushed in state houses.

Also. I don't think I've ever used the term tea bagger, but that assumption is emblematic of your persecution complex.

Random, unspecific bills by anonymous people that you are labeling as tea party and asking me to answer for. Hmmm yeah OK Buddy. Are you done not making your point?

HR3... That's the bill, the HR means House of Representatives, the 3 means the third introduced in this congressional session. You could look it up really really easily and see the name of the legislator who introduced it and it's cosponsors. I don't bother to link anything for you anymore because you either don't read it or say it's liberal propaganda then taunt anyone who calls out your crap and accuse them of taunts and insults.
What does the Keystone Pipeline bill have anything to do with anything medical related?

H.R. #3 114th Congress

Can't use the excuse "I meant the last Congress" either, since it's pretty much the same bill...

H.R. #3 113th Congress

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out which bill I was talking about, but look above if you can't perform more than 1 google search.

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Well, you have to be more specific next time.

Don't forget that the bill numbers reset every 2 years....

Thanks, I couldn't possibly figure out how that worked...
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 21:19:26  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Putting another of your insults aside, how does a group that wanted smaller government and less taxes in anyway Authoritarian? Or is Tea Party your catch-all much like you accuse me of doing?

Trying to enact laws that dictate how people can live their life... Sounds dead on.

What law was this that the "tea party" wanted to enact?

I have the feeling you are about to label some random lawmaker in a random state house a tea partier and then make a blanket statement about the Tea Party.

HR3... why is Viagra on to spend tax money on but a medical procedure, sometimes necessary to a woman's life, not? A classic example of authoritarian religious right ideology, and introduced and sponsored by multiple members of the tea party. There's about 40 other bills introduced in the last 20 years by members of the national Congress that are either tea party or joined the tea party, and that's not counting the hundreds of even more authoritarian bull pushed in state houses.

Also. I don't think I've ever used the term tea bagger, but that assumption is emblematic of your persecution complex.

Random, unspecific bills by anonymous people that you are labeling as tea party and asking me to answer for. Hmmm yeah OK Buddy. Are you done not making your point?

HR3... That's the bill, the HR means House of Representatives, the 3 means the third introduced in this congressional session. You could look it up really really easily and see the name of the legislator who introduced it and it's cosponsors. I don't bother to link anything for you anymore because you either don't read it or say it's liberal propaganda then taunt anyone who calls out your crap and accuse them of taunts and insults.
What does the Keystone Pipeline bill have anything to do with anything medical related?

H.R. #3 114th Congress

Can't use the excuse "I meant the last Congress" either, since it's pretty much the same bill...

H.R. #3 113th Congress

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out which bill I was talking about, but look above if you can't perform more than 1 google search.
Was going by what you wrote. Don't get all aggressive on me because you made a mistake.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:20:45  
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-14 21:21:30  
If I'm reading this correctly, the Keystone Pipeline is going to be used to transport Viagra?

Man, those old guys in Congress have one-track minds.
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 21:22:32  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
If I'm reading this correctly, the Keystone Pipeline is going to be used to transport Viagra?

Man, those old guys in Congress have one-track minds.
It's part of the illuminati man!
[+]
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:23:50  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?

I was asked for an example of an authoritarian law proposed by a Tea Party member, that was the first that came to mind. I'm not arguing about anything.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:25:33  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?

I was asked for an example of an authoritarian law proposed by a Tea Party member, that was the first that came to mind. I'm not arguing about anything.

how is it authoritarian or tea party related?

it's about no taxes for abortion...if I read it right
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-14 21:26:59  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?

I was asked for an example of an authoritarian law proposed by a Tea Party member, that was the first that came to mind. I'm not arguing about anything.
Is your argument then that this is a "Tea Party" only trait? Because I'm sure we can produce many bills that liberals have proposed that would fit into the definition of "authoritarian law".

Hell, ACA fits that bill perfectly. Don't even have to try at all, and the sad part is, it's law!
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:31:52  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?

I was asked for an example of an authoritarian law proposed by a Tea Party member, that was the first that came to mind. I'm not arguing about anything.

how is it authoritarian or tea party related?

it's about no taxes for abortion...if I read it right

It's a law to limit the kinds of medical procedures a medical provider is allowed to perform. It was worded specifically to allow it to be challenged and determined that any entity that receives any federal funding cannot perform abortions. Ignoring the fact that it is a medical procedure that is paid for by the patient already, it's a legal procedure, and the law was intended to lay the groundwork for a supreme court case that could challenge Roe v Wade. It was introduced and cosponsored by Tea Party members who apparently don't have a problem with medicaid paying for Viagra.

Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »

ummm this bill died four years ago wth are you arguing about it now for?

I was asked for an example of an authoritarian law proposed by a Tea Party member, that was the first that came to mind. I'm not arguing about anything.
Is your argument then that this is a "Tea Party" only trait? Because I'm sure we can produce many bills that liberals have proposed that would fit into the definition of "authoritarian law".

Hell, ACA fits that bill perfectly. Don't even have to try at all, and the sad part is, it's law!

Nope, just a counterpoint to the insinuation that anyone who disapproves of legislating morality being in the same sphere with the Nazi's.
 Phoenix.Amandarius
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3686
By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-14 21:33:35  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Putting another of your insults aside, how does a group that wanted smaller government and less taxes in anyway Authoritarian? Or is Tea Party your catch-all much like you accuse me of doing?

Trying to enact laws that dictate how people can live their life... Sounds dead on.

What law was this that the "tea party" wanted to enact?

I have the feeling you are about to label some random lawmaker in a random state house a tea partier and then make a blanket statement about the Tea Party.

HR3... why is Viagra on to spend tax money on but a medical procedure, sometimes necessary to a woman's life, not? A classic example of authoritarian religious right ideology, and introduced and sponsored by multiple members of the tea party. There's about 40 other bills introduced in the last 20 years by members of the national Congress that are either tea party or joined the tea party, and that's not counting the hundreds of even more authoritarian bull pushed in state houses.

Also. I don't think I've ever used the term tea bagger, but that assumption is emblematic of your persecution complex.

Random, unspecific bills by anonymous people that you are labeling as tea party and asking me to answer for. Hmmm yeah OK Buddy. Are you done not making your point?

HR3... That's the bill, the HR means House of Representatives, the 3 means the third introduced in the congressional session. You could look it up really really easily and see the name of the legislator who introduced it and it's cosponsors. I don't bother to link anything for you anymore because you either don't read it or say it's liberal propaganda then taunt anyone who calls out your crap and accuse them of taunts and insults.

You said 40 some bills and attributed them to the Tea Party.

I never once heard the Tea Party talk about Viagra, sorry. And The Tea Party had nothing to do with religion.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:35:31  
Odin.Jassik said: »
It's a law to limit the kinds of medical procedures a medical provider is allowed to perform. It was worded specifically to allow it to be challenged and determined that any entity that receives any federal funding cannot perform abortions. Ignoring the fact that it is a medical procedure that is paid for by the patient already, it's a legal procedure, and the law was intended to lay the groundwork for a supreme court case that could challenge Roe v Wade. It was introduced and cosponsored by Tea Party members who apparently don't have a problem with medicaid paying for Viagra.

[+]
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:36:01  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
You said 40 some bills and attributed them to the Tea Party.

I never once heard the Tea Party talk about Viagra, sorry. And The Tea Party had nothing to do with religion.


Yes, there have been at least 40 authoritarian bills introduced by Tea Party members since their inception in the national congress. I didn't say a word about religion.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:42:20  
Odin.Jassik said: »
there have been at least 40 authoritarian bills introduced by Tea Party members

Administrator
Offline
サーバ: Hyperion
Game: FFXIV
user: Rooks
Posts: 701
By Drama Torama 2015-08-14 21:42:38  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Liberalism is more of just a symptom of a mental disorder

Hi, friendly neighborhood modmin here.

Not sure when people started thinking it was ok to start throwing around "mental disorder" as an insult, but there's been a lot of it lately, and it's pretty clearly against the rules, and I'm sick of seeing it. It stops now.

Say whatever you like about liberalism or the Tea Party or whatever, say they're misguided, say they're traitors, whatever; as long as it doesn't start going after people with real handicaps and disabilites. Because when you do that, I will nuke you with no remorse, and no appeal.

Clear? Awesome. Carry on.
[+]
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:43:25  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
It's a law to limit the kinds of medical procedures a medical provider is allowed to perform. It was worded specifically to allow it to be challenged and determined that any entity that receives any federal funding cannot perform abortions. Ignoring the fact that it is a medical procedure that is paid for by the patient already, it's a legal procedure, and the law was intended to lay the groundwork for a supreme court case that could challenge Roe v Wade. It was introduced and cosponsored by Tea Party members who apparently don't have a problem with medicaid paying for Viagra.


It has language specifically stating that any business who performed abortions would not be able to claim any tax credits. It denied insurance coverage for abortion or any reproductive care related for ALL federal employees and medical care recipients. It also specifically grants the states the right to enact abortion bans in conflict with Roe v Wade. It's not tinfoil, that's literally the purpose of that law.
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:44:45  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
there have been at least 40 authoritarian bills introduced by Tea Party members


Quote:
favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

A bill designed to limit people's personal freedom and access to a legal procedure... That's EXACTLY the definition of authoritarian.
[+]
 Phoenix.Amandarius
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3686
By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-14 21:48:00  
Lol you keep repeating it but you haven't backed any of your dishonest and erroneous ckaims about the tea party being Authoritarian. Nothing you mentioned had anything to do with the Tea Party. The Tea Party, other than outright Anarchists and Libertarians, is the last group you could call Authoritarian.
 Phoenix.Amandarius
Offline
サーバ: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3686
By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-08-14 21:48:56  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
It's a law to limit the kinds of medical procedures a medical provider is allowed to perform. It was worded specifically to allow it to be challenged and determined that any entity that receives any federal funding cannot perform abortions. Ignoring the fact that it is a medical procedure that is paid for by the patient already, it's a legal procedure, and the law was intended to lay the groundwork for a supreme court case that could challenge Roe v Wade. It was introduced and cosponsored by Tea Party members who apparently don't have a problem with medicaid paying for Viagra.


It has language specifically stating that any business who performed abortions would not be able to claim any tax credits. It denied insurance coverage for abortion or any reproductive care related for ALL federal employees and medical care recipients. It also specifically grants the states the right to enact abortion bans in conflict with Roe v Wade. It's not tinfoil, that's literally the purpose of that law.

It's not Tea Party! What is wrong with you lol
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:49:36  
Odin.Jassik said: »
A bill designed to limit people's personal freedom and access to a legal procedure... That's EXACTLY the definition of authoritarian.

It died four years ago
it's about taxes paying for abortion,
it has nothing to do with viagra or the tea party
and it doesn't limit freedom in any way shape or form
because it was never enacted
 Odin.Jassik
VIP
Offline
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Jassik
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-14 21:50:20  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Lol you keep repeating it but you haven't backed sny of your dishonest and erroneous ckaims about the tea party being Authoritarian. Nothing you mentioned had anything to do with the Tea Party. The Tea Party, other thsn outright Anarchists and Libertarians, is the last group you could call Authoritarian.

Many members of the group introduce and sponsor a bill that is authoritarian, so of course they are on the opposite end of the spectrum because you agree with the law. Face it, your team is the same as their team with a different colored jersey.
 Shiva.Nikolce
Offline
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Nikolce
Posts: 20130
By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-08-14 21:51:41  
maybe if I drink more this page will make sense... bbl
[+]
First Page 2 3 ... 848 849 850 ... 1375 1376 1377
Log in to post.