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By fonewear 2015-06-23 21:12:23  
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By fonewear 2015-06-23 21:13:17  
Ladies and gentlemen we have a conspiracy theory just started:

Shitty hair cuts...can cause mass shootings !
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By fonewear 2015-06-23 21:16:54  
Actually they all have in common one thing:

All the mass shooters were either depressed suffered some anxiety issues etc. And taking SSRI drugs.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-23 21:21:36  
fonewear said: »
Actually they all have in common one thing:

All the mass shooters were either depressed suffered some anxiety issues etc. And taking SSRI drugs.

I had no idea that bad haircuts could cause such serious mental illnesses. Choose your stylist wisely.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-06-23 21:37:01  
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I'll look past racism when the country stops being racist. I understand it's difficult for someone who doesn't have to face discrimination to understand but try walking a mile in another man's shoes.

Or failing that, go blackface for a week. A month. A year.

Think of the material you'd get!
There was a book like that written in 1961.

"Black Like Me"
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-06-23 21:47:00  
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Fun fact, Nazis killed the use of the Swastika. Before then it was a commonly used symbol.

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The swastika (also known as the gammadion cross, cross cramponnée, or manji) (as a Chinese character: 卐 or 卍) is a symbol that generally takes the form of an equilateral cross, with its four legs bent at 90 degrees. It is considered to be a sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

It has been used as a decorative element in various cultures since at least the Neolithic, and is found on a man's tunic depicted in a Roman mosaic at the Villa Romana del Casale in Sicily. It is known most widely as an important symbol long used in Indian religions, denoting "auspiciousness." It was adopted as such in pre-World War I-Europe and later, and most notably, by the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany prior to World War II. In many Western countries, the swastika has been stigmatized because of its use in Nazism. It continues to be commonly used as a religious symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism.

The word swastika derives from the Sanskrit svastika (Devanagari: स्वस्तिक) "lucky or auspicious object". The older term gammadion cross in Western literature derives mainly from its appearance, which is identical to four Greek gamma letters affixed to each other.
Swastika

Finnish Air Force used it as part of their flag until only recently. (2005)


Training Air Wing, Finnish Air Force
Before WWII the Eagle Scouts used to be known as "The Order of the White Swastika.

It was a common American Indian symbol.

Personal history. I went to a boarding school who's central building was this IMMENSE early 20th century brick house. The front porch had the Indian Swastika in white bricks surrounded by red.

Mom, Nana, my sister, and I never commented on it.
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-23 21:52:46  
Lots of pre-WWII buildings have Swastikas on them. Is this news all the sudden?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-06-23 21:57:57  
Cerberus.Laconic said: »
Lots of pre-WWII buildings have Swastikas on them. Is this news all the sudden?
No, just trying to tell people about a Jewish Family's reaction to the Indian Swastika in the late 1950s.

None.
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-23 22:00:06  
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Cerberus.Laconic said: »
Lots of pre-WWII buildings have Swastikas on them. Is this news all the sudden?
No, just trying to tell people about a Jewish Family's reaction to the Indian Swastika in the late 1950s.

None.

Rational people are shocking.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-23 23:23:46  
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A 2,500 manifesto that apparently was posted by Dylann Roof Storm reveals his obsession against Jews, Hispanics and East Asians, as well as the American flag.

Storm, why has pleaded guilty the murders of nine blacks in a Charleston, S.C. church last week, wrote his rant on the Last Rhodesian website, which originally was registered in his name, according to The New York Times.

The only thing differentiating Roof from Hitler seems to be a moustache.

...

One photo of Roof has a clear reference to Hitler. He is shown at a beach with the number “1488.” a code used by White supremacists. The number 14 refers to a 14-word slogan: We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children” and is apparently inspired by an 88-word passage in Mein Kampf.

The digits “88” have at least two meanings. The letter “H” is the eighth letter in the alphabet, and two of the letters together, which would be 88, are the initials for Heil Hitler.
Dylann Roof's Anti-Jewish-Spanish-East Asian Manifesto
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-23 23:44:12  
Safest places to visit in the world listed in order until we get to U.S. and the country below it:

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1 Iceland 1.148
2 Denmark 1.150
3 Austria 1.198
4 New Zealand 1.221
5 Switzerland 1.275
6 Finland 1.277
7 Canada 1.287
8 Japan 1.322
9 Australia 1.329
10 Czech Republic 1.341
11 Portugal 1.344
12 Ireland 1.354
13 Sweden 1.360
14 Belgium 1.368
15 Slovenia 1.378
16 Germany 1.379
17 Norway 1.393
18 Bhutan 1.416
19 Poland 1.430
20 Netherlands 1.432
21 Spain 1.451
22 Hungary 1.463
23 Slovakia 1.478
24 Singapore 1.490
25 Mauritius 1.503
26 Romania 1.542
27 Croatia 1.550
28 Malaysia 1.561
29 Chile 1.563
30 Qatar 1.568
31 Botswana 1.597
32 Bulgaria 1.607
33 Kuwait 1.626
34 Costa Rica 1.654
35 Taiwan 1.657
36 Italy 1.669
37 Lithuania 1.674
38 Estonia 1.677
39 United Kingdom 1.685
40 Latvia 1.695
41 Laos 1.700
42 South Korea 1.701
43 Mongolia 1.706
44 Uruguay 1.721
45 France 1.742
46 Indonesia 1.768
46 Serbia 1.768
48 Namibia 1.784
49 Senegal 1.805
49 United Arab Emirates 1.805
51 Malawi 1.814
52 Albania 1.821
53 Bosnia & Herzegovina 1.839
54 Ghana 1.840
55 Zambia 1.846
56 Vietnam 1.848
57 Montenegro 1.854
58 Timor-Leste 1.860
59 Sierra Leone 1.864
60 Argentina 1.865
61 Greece 1.878
62 Nepal 1.882
63 Lesotho 1.891
64 Panama 1.903
64 Tanzania 1.903
66 Gabon 1.904
67 Madagascar 1.911
68 Cyprus 1.924
69 Kosovo 1.938
70 Moldova 1.942
71 Jordan 1.944
71 Togo 1.944
71 Macedonia 1.944
74 Nicaragua 1.947
74 Oman 1.947
76 Tunisia 1.952
77 Benin 1.958
78 Liberia 1.963
79 Georgia 1.973
80 Mozambique 1.976
81 Equatorial Guinea 1.987
82 Cuba 1.988
83 Burkina Faso 1.994
84 Bangladesh 1.997
84 Ecuador 1.997
86 Morocco 2.002
87 Kazakhstan 2.008
88 Angola 2.020
89 Paraguay 2.023
90 Bolivia 2.025
91 Armenia 2.028
92 Guyana 2.029
92 Peru 2.029
94 United States 2.038
95 Saudi Arabia 2.042
2015 GLOBAL PEACE INDEX
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-24 00:40:53  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Safest places to visit in the world listed in order until we get to U.S. and the country below it:
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By Cerberus.Laconic 2015-06-24 01:18:15  

Just putting this here for safe keeping, I'm sure it'll be useful soon.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-24 02:22:33  
fonewear said: »
VT shooter:

That guy looks suspiciously like the former kingpin of my college (upgraded to university status last year) in which I was his successor the following year after he got arrested. Learned from his mistakes, we kept in touch for a couple of years after he transferred to Rutgers.

He was Korean and that guy is definitely Korean.

/checks name

Nah it's not him, lol.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-24 03:32:10  
Breaking News:

Reuters has no story yet (only headline), so I had to Google something more than a headline.

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French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Monday that he had "summoned immediately" the US ambassador over a report that American spies eavesdropped on millions of calls made by French citizens.

Laurent Fabius told reporters as he arrived for an EU foreign ministers meeting in Luxembourg, that a meeting would take place "this morning" at the ministry in Paris.

In an interview on French radio station Europe 1, Interior Minister Manuel Valls described as “shocking” the revelations in Le Monde newspaper that the US National Security Agency had secretly recorded millions of phone calls made by French citizens.

The spy agency taped 70.3 million phone calls in France over a 30-day period between December 10 and January 8 this year, Le Monde reported in its online version, citing documents from former US security contractor Edward Snowden.

According to the paper, the NSA automatically picked up communications from certain phone numbers in France and recorded text messages under a programme code-named "US-985D."

Le Monde said the documents gave grounds to believe that the NSA targeted not only people suspected of being involved in terrorism but also high-profile individuals from the world of business or politics.

US authorities declined comment to the French daily on the "classified" documents.

The Le Monde article followed similar revelations by German weekly Der Spiegel that US agents had hacked into the email account of former Mexican president Felipe Calderon.

Mexican authorities have said they will be seeking answers from US officials "as soon as possible" following the allegations.

Snowden, who has taken refuge in Russia, is wanted in the United States for espionage and other charges after leaking details of the NSA's worldwide snooping activities.
France summons US ambassador over spy claims
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-24 12:53:44  
Cerberus.Laconic said: »

Just putting this here for safe keeping, I'm sure it'll be useful soon.

Good thing im not Clinton or Gore and still think the Confederate flag represents the worst elements of America. But whatever it takes to pander out some votes, eh?

You're still free to fly it high on your property and im still free to think you're embracing a flag that stood for division, slavery and traitors.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-24 13:21:01  
How can people vote for such a supporter of racism... Did you hear, she even told a black church group that "all lives matter"?

If she gets elected it will no doubt be PROOF positive of our racism.

You know if I really sit back for a second, I almost feel bad because she is so misunderstood.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-24 13:33:02  
tl;dr vote Trump.

Then everyone gets a combover parasite that makes them spew ***. Win win win for America. And headcrabs.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-24 13:37:43  
Anesthesiologist trashes patient during surgery while under, then has to pay for it!

America, where if you hurt someone's feels you need to pay up. Fork over that money liberals, I'm getting in line for my payout..
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-24 13:42:18  
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Anesthesiologist trashes patient during surgery while under, then has to pay for it!

America, where if you hurt someone's feels you need to pay up. Fork over that money liberals, I'm getting in line for my payout..

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In addition to their vicious commentary, the doctors discussed avoiding the man after the colonoscopy, instructing an assistant to lie to him, and then placed a false diagnosis on his chart.


Bolded is sort of important.

Make fun of the "feels" aspect all you want, but what was done was unprofessional, against the rules, and unquestionably malpractice. The first two are questionable for legal recourse, though she certainly should lose her job (edit: in my opinion, though I suppose I could poll the physicians in my building and see how they feel abou it).

The last, however, is sort of important, and is a good way to try to lose your license completely depending how damaging your actions were to your patient.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-24 13:43:46  
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How can people vote for such a supporter of racism... Did you hear, she even told a black church group that "all lives matter"?

If she gets elected it will no doubt be PROOF positive of our racism.

You know if I really sit back for a second, I almost feel bad because she is so misunderstood.

El. Oh. El.

Suddenly the cacophony of "LA LA LA LA LA" I'm hearing from Dems with their fingers in their ears is getting a lot louder.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-06-24 13:43:54  
This thing called the Hippocratic Oath, might wanna look into it.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-24 13:47:00  
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Anesthesiologist trashes patient during surgery while under, then has to pay for it!

America, where if you hurt someone's feels you need to pay up. Fork over that money liberals, I'm getting in line for my payout..

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In addition to their vicious commentary, the doctors discussed avoiding the man after the colonoscopy, instructing an assistant to lie to him, and then placed a false diagnosis on his chart.


Bolded is sort of important.

Make fun of the "feels" aspect all you want, but what was done was unprofessional, against the rules, and unquestionably malpractice. The first two are questionable for legal recourse, though she certainly should lose her job (edit: in my opinion, though I suppose I could poll the physicians in my building and see how they feel abou it).

The last, however, is sort of important, and is a good way to try to lose your license completely depending how damaging your actions were to your patient.

you must've missed this part

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The jury awarded the man $100,000 for defamation — $50,000 each for the comments about the man having syphilis and tuberculosis

Malpractice is one thing, but this isn't really "defamation"... Hence my tongue in cheek comment.
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By Drama Torama 2015-06-24 13:50:54  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Malpractice is one thing, but this isn't really "defamation"... Hence my tongue in cheek comment.

I'm basically fine with that, as a "moron tax". You can mock this guy's feels all you like, but idiocy in medical professionals needs to be exposed and punished harshly. These people are literally making life or death decisions, dozens every day, and anything that filters out the people too stupid to keep a semblance of professionalism is fine with me.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-06-24 13:58:13  
Drama Torama said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Malpractice is one thing, but this isn't really "defamation"... Hence my tongue in cheek comment.

I'm basically fine with that, as a "moron tax". You can mock this guy's feels all you like, but idiocy in medical professionals needs to be exposed and punished harshly. These people are literally making life or death decisions, dozens every day, and anything that filters out the people too stupid to keep a semblance of professionalism is fine with me.
Do only doctors get this moron tax?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-06-24 13:59:34  
Drama Torama said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Malpractice is one thing, but this isn't really "defamation"... Hence my tongue in cheek comment.

I'm basically fine with that, as a "moron tax". You can mock this guy's feels all you like, but idiocy in medical professionals needs to be exposed and punished harshly. These people are literally making life or death decisions, dozens every day, and anything that filters out the people too stupid to keep a semblance of professionalism is fine with me.

Yeah, I'm not sure whether I would defend the guy or not. A part of me says that professionalism is of course important, but the other part of me knows that hospital doctors use humor sometimes to take their minds off of the terrible things that they have to deal with on a regular basis.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-24 14:06:21  
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Yeah, I'm not sure whether I would defend the guy or not. A part of me says that professionalism is of course important, but the other part of me knows that hospital doctors use humor sometimes to take their minds off of the terrible things that they have to deal with on a regular basis.

You're right to a degree.

But you don't do it around patients or clients. Be professional about it. Have some situational awareness, for ***'s sake.

Say you've got a patient named Steve Stefano Stevenson. Make a silly comment about his name once he leaves the office, or maybe if he's there for a basic checkup or something maybe josh him about it.

...if he's there finding out he's got stage IV inoperable cancer, maybe put the wakka-wakkas back in the bag for a bit.

If you're gassing someone for a procedure or otherwise partaking in the procedure, maybe save the jokes about the guy's John Thomas until you're out of earshot of the guy, and once you're doing probing his nethers.
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By Jetackuu 2015-06-24 14:27:14  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
How can people vote for such a supporter of racism... Did you hear, she even told a black church group that "all lives matter"?

If she gets elected it will no doubt be PROOF positive of our racism.

You know if I really sit back for a second, I almost feel bad because she is so misunderstood.

El. Oh. El.

Suddenly the cacophony of "LA LA LA LA LA" I'm hearing from Dems with their fingers in their ears is getting a lot louder.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-06-24 14:36:27  
Blame it on our legal system and giving juries all that power. Appearantly the settlement amount was a compromise as it landed in some kind of middle ground between what was demanded and two jurors one which thought he should get more and one which thought he should get nothing.

In any case when you put 12 people up there with no legal experience and you do something as stupid and unprofessional as these people did you leave it up to their whim as long as it meets some kind of legal requirement. I mean thats why you have multimillion dollar settlements to the families of thiefs that get injured or killed breaking in to facilities in an attempt to steal something.

All in all these people were completely unprofessional and definitely should have had medical malpractice charges brought against them.
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