Random Politics & Religion #00

there's really 0 reason to go into sexual interests past what's necessary to educate as far as STD/pregnancy concerns

a 'comprehensive' education should cover the biological parts of procreation, vaginal/oral/anal sex(obviously including same-gender) with information regarding the dangers associated with each, and explain all the horrible parts of pregnancy because for real that ***is scary even without abstinence

the only reason to teach transgender/fetish things is personal bias, they have no real impact on any of the negatives to sex and there's plenty of material for people to experiment with on their own as long as they know the important stuff

I have a question~

Has there been more or less teen pregnancy with more sex ed classes?

Among the 48 states in this analysis (all U.S. states except North Dakota and Wyoming), 21 states stressed abstinence-only education in their 2005 state laws and/or policies (level 3), 7 states emphasized abstinence education (level 2), 11 states covered abstinence in the context of comprehensive sex education (level 1), and 9 states did not mention abstinence (level 0) in their state laws or policies (Figure 1). In 2005, level 0 states had an average (± standard error) teen pregnancy rate of 58.78 (±4.96), level 1 states averaged 56.36 (±3.94), level 2 states averaged 61.86 (±3.93), and level 3 states averaged 73.24 (±2.58) teen pregnancies per 1000 girls aged 14–19 (Table 3). The level of abstinence education (no provision, covered, promoted, stressed) was positively correlated with both teen pregnancy (Spearman's rho = 0.510, p = 0.001) and teen birth (rho = 0.605, p<0.001) rates (Table 4), indicating that abstinence education in the U.S. does not cause abstinence behavior. To the contrary, teens in states that prescribe more abstinence education are actually more likely to become pregnant (Figure 2). Abortion rates were not correlated with abstinence education level (rho = −0.136, p = 0.415). A multivariate analysis of teen pregnancy and birth rates identified the level of abstinence education as a significant influence on teen pregnancy and birth rates across states (pregnancies F = 5.620, p = 0.002; births F = 11.814, p<0.001). The significant pregnancy effect was caused by significantly lower pregnancy rates in level 0 (no abstinence provision) states compared to level 3 (abstinence stressed) states (p = 0.036), and level 1 (abstinence covered) states compared to level 3 states (p = 0.005); the significant birth effect was caused by significantly lower teen birth rates in level 0 states compared to level 3 (p = 0.006) states, and significantly lower teen birth rates in level 1 states compared to level 3 states (p<0.001).

Where in any of my posts have I used the word abstinence, please show me.

What does that have to do with an alligator wearing a snakeskin dress?
The "hard right", when applied to US political parties, would be Republicans; which by far and away promote abstinence.

The "hard right", when applied to US political spectrum of beliefs, involves teaching absolutely nothing to anyone (go learn about it yourself from scratch and first principles, damnit!), regardless of topic. Bootstraps, etc.

Is compromise really so hard for you people to understand or is it hardline right or hardline left and nothing in between. Oh no we can't settle for something in between because neither side would be right!

The "hard right", when applied to US political spectrum of beliefs, involves teaching absolutely nothing to anyone (go learn about it yourself from scratch and first principles, damnit!), regardless of topic. Bootstraps, etc.

s compromise really so hard for you people to understand or is it hardline right or hardline left and nothing in between. Oh no we can't settle for something in between because neither side would be right!

In reality I can settle just fine. But people around here hardly deal in reality or compromise. And ideally we make sure kids learn better than prior generations about this stuff.

In reality all I have been doing is saying compromise and all you have been doing is putting words in my mouth. Good job taking a step back and realizing how far left you have been though.

It has to do with you not being able to read and just throwing out words that have nothing to do with my posts you quoted.

Another example of you not reading. I said that last page!

In reality all I have been doing is saying compromise and all you have been doing is putting words in my mouth. Good job taking a step back and realizing how far left you have been though.

So, teaching children about sex is far left?

putting words in my mouth

If your compromises are full of bs I don't see why anyone should settle with them.

So no, saying "but it's compromise!" is not automatically a win.

You will not find it because people like you prefer extremes. Rational people are going to be okay with a class teaching teens about birth control and how a condom works. The problem is, that is never good enough and stuff like this happens.

would prefer to teach nothing because the hard left cannot be happy with comprise!

Ignorance is better than having slightly uncomfortable conversations for parents.

Genius!

I've shown proof that kids are being taught that. Then I said that is why the hard right would prefer to teach nothing because the hard left cannot be happy with comprise!

I claim people put words in my mouth because they actually do! rofl.
Your post is the perfect example!

I've shown proof that kids are being taught that. Then I said that is why the hard right would prefer to teach nothing because the hard left cannot be happy with comprise!

I claim people put words in my mouth because they actually do! rofl.
Your post is the perfect example!

Ah, another day of fighting in P&R. Gotta love it.

tl;dr: stop messing up future generations with radical liberal ideology?

tl;dr: stop messing up future generations with radical liberal ideology?

So I can't read to my 4 year old boy/girl "I have two moms and my family is more progressive than yours !"