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By Ramyrez 2015-06-15 12:05:13  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Welcome to the new world where it doesn't matter what you do or didn't do, but feels > all.

There's really room for both.

We as a species, however, are just utter ***at striking balances.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-15 13:12:54  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Nobel Prize-winning scientist says he was forced to resign

Welcome to the new world where it doesn't matter what you do or didn't do, but feels > all.

Need to treat those nobel prize winners with the respect they deserve!

Right?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-06-16 07:43:54  
Out of those 3, Jimmy Carter clearly the winner.
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 07:45:11  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Out of those 3, Jimmy Carter clearly the winner.

Al Gore got a prize for...being Al Gore though !


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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-06-16 07:47:14  
Since they are giving out Nobel prizes to people who don't actually do anything to earn it, isn't that an insult to those who actually do earn it?

And no Rooks, there is no personal attacks in this post. Nor is there any other sort of rule breaking either. So, I would appreciate it if I don't get banned for making this post.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 07:52:50  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since they are giving out Nobel prizes to people who don't actually do anything to earn it, isn't that an insult to those who actually do earn it?

And no Rooks, there is no personal attacks in this post. Nor is there any other sort of rule breaking either. So, I would appreciate it if I don't get banned for making this post.

I submit that you are personally attacking Nobel Peace Prize winners!

How low can you get!?

(I don't care.)

Though in fairness, Carter actually, you know, did things for it. He wasn't the best president ever, but he's a pretty good guy and does a lot of humanitarian work.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 07:52:56  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And no Rooks, there is no personal attacks in this post. Nor is there any other sort of rule breaking either. So, I would appreciate it if I don't get banned for making this post.

Are you just trying to goad me into suspending you? Do you think that's going to work? What exactly is the point of this?
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 07:54:39  
What is funny about the Noble peace prize is that the guy it is named for made money creating things to kill people! (dynamite)
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 07:55:23  
Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Since they are giving out Nobel prizes to people who don't actually do anything to earn it, isn't that an insult to those who actually do earn it?

And no Rooks, there is no personal attacks in this post. Nor is there any other sort of rule breaking either. So, I would appreciate it if I don't get banned for making this post.

I submit that you are personally attacking Nobel Peace Prize winners!

How low can you get!?

(I don't care.)

Though in fairness, Carter actually, you know, did things for it. He wasn't the best president ever, but he's a pretty good guy and does a lot of humanitarian work.

Of course he does he grew peanuts. That alone is worth a Nobel prize !
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 07:55:39  
fonewear said: »
What is funny about the Noble peace prize is that the guy it is named for made money creating things to kill people! (dynamite)

It's not just named for him; he founded it.

He founded it as a way to atone for making such a destructive thing.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 07:56:04  
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What is funny about the Noble peace prize is that the guy it is named for made money creating things to kill people! (dynamite)

What is funny is you not accurately conveying the entirety of the story surrounding the events you're reporting.

It's like you work for Fox or CNN or something.
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 07:59:41  
Since when do Presidents get judged by whether or not they win a Nobel peace prize ? Is that the standard nowadays ?
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-06-16 08:01:30  
Supposedly, he invented it as a more powerful method of blasting rock for the sake of construction.

I don't know all of the applications of dynamite, but I do know it's also used for extinguishing fires in oil wells, etc.
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 08:05:17  
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
Supposedly, he invented it an a more powerful method of blasting rock for the sake of construction.

I don't know all of the applications of dynamite, but I do know it's also used for extinguishing fires in oil wells, etc.

I do it is used by Wile E Coyote to catch the road runner.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 08:10:00  
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Since when do Presidents get judged by whether or not they win a Nobel peace prize ? Is that the standard nowadays ?

Not judging his presidential achievements or lack thereof. Judging the entirety of his work as a human being.

Frankly, I think it's great seeing presidents do work after they're in office, rather than just cashing in $200,000 a year on top of their other riches while they engage in leisurely pursuits like terribly painting...
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 08:12:58  
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Frankly, I think it's great seeing presidents do work after they're in office, rather than just cashing in $200,000 a year on top of their other riches while they engage in leisurely pursuits like terribly painting...

I find the post-presidency period really interesting. Here you have, by definition, one of most ambitious and successful people alive, with no mountains left to climb. (Unless they want to pull a Taft and aim for the Supreme Court). Seeing what they do with their time and their influence is fascinating.
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 08:13:32  
So you criticize a former President for having a hobby. Seems fair and just to me ! Did you criticize him for saving millions of people in Africa from AIDS and cervical cancer ?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-06-16 08:14:48  
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
And no Rooks, there is no personal attacks in this post. Nor is there any other sort of rule breaking either. So, I would appreciate it if I don't get banned for making this post.

Are you just trying to goad me into suspending you? Do you think that's going to work? What exactly is the point of this?
Not goading, protecting my own ***.

Or am I not allowed to do that either? Is this post the post that you will issue that 60 day ban you just threatened me on?
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-06-16 08:15:17  
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Frankly, I think it's great seeing presidents do work after they're in office, rather than just cashing in $200,000 a year on top of their other riches while they engage in leisurely pursuits like terribly painting...

I find the post-presidency period really interesting. Here you have, by definition, one of most ambitious and successful people alive, with no mountains left to climb. (Unless they want to pull a Taft and aim for the Supreme Court). Seeing what they do with their time and their influence is fascinating.
Most of the former president's who I've seen that commented on holding the office hated it apparently.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 08:20:03  
fonewear said: »
So you criticize a former President for having a hobby. Seems fair and just to me ! Did you criticize him for saving millions of people in Africa from AIDS and cervical cancer ?

GW does good things and he's been a remarkably nonpartisan former president. Frankly I think he gets too much ***for an administration that he was saddled with that didn't even get along within itself.

That said, you're the one who criticized me for lauding a former president - albeit one equally worthy of criticism as a president - for winning the Nobel Peace Prize. :p

Though to directly address your statement of:

fonewear said: »
Since when do Presidents get judged by whether or not they win a Nobel peace prize ? Is that the standard nowadays ?

I think gauging presidents as those who work for peace as bigger winners than those who start wars isn't necessarily a bad thing, even if it is a massive oversimplification.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 08:22:04  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Not goading, protecting my own ***.

Or am I not allowed to do that either? Is this post the post that you will issue that 60 day ban you just threatened me on?

I just find your methodology curious, I guess.

And that wasn't a threat; I was stating flat out that by the process, your next suspension is the 60 day kind, and that I'd shown some leniency by topic banning you from Lordgrim's thread instead of following the escalation process. I was trying to be informative.

I never really saw much value in threats, anyway; if you have to try and cower someone into doing something, they aren't likely to do it for any reason you'd want.
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-06-16 08:23:11  
Ramyrez said: »
who work for peace prizes as bigger winners than those who start wars

Is it wrong that I pictured that choice as a BioWare style dialogue wheel?
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 08:46:04  
I'm sure we will have a "war" when Hillary enters office. So don't worry there is going to be plenty of war porn for everyone.

I'm sure Hillary is an expert on foreign policy in the Middle East. Just ask her she will tell you so.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 08:46:19  
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Ramyrez said: »
who work for peace prizes as bigger winners than those who start wars

Is it wrong that I pictured that choice as a BioWare style dialogue wheel?

I take it as the highest form of complement, actually.
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 08:47:58  
See women aren't warmongers we would live in a peaceful world if more women were in charge...or so the feminist mantra goes...

I look forward to Hillary proving me right.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 09:02:37  
fonewear said: »
See women aren't warmongers we would live in a peaceful world if more women were in charge...or so the feminist mantra goes...

I look forward to Hillary proving me right.

Who was talking anything about feminism? Was your axe so particularly dull today that you had to whip it out and grind it? ^^;
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 09:05:44  
Everything always goes back to women. It is the nature of the world. Can't talk about men without a woman bitching !

You want to live in a world full of equality have to discuss women even if they aren't the topic at hand.
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By Ramyrez 2015-06-16 09:06:18  
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Everything always goes back to women. It is the nature of the world. Can't talk about men without a woman bitching !

Incidentally, the trend I've noticed on this forum is you can't talk about men without men bitching about women whether they have anything to do with the topic at hand or not...
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By fonewear 2015-06-16 09:07:17  
That is what equality is all about. Everyone ending up hating each other.
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