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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 12:42:37  
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I'll gladly ride in the back of the bus more leg room !

All the hobos sleep back there. And the sound of the engine is such a pain. The seats are all worn out. And this lady with her grocery bags makes it impossible to navigate.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:42:50  
I've been to the ghetto turns out white people live there too !
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By Enuyasha 2015-03-31 12:42:59  
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When the police start rounding up gays and forcing them to live away from everyone else in make shift ghettos and have separate water fountains or forcing them all to live in camps away from everyone else surrounded by barbed wire, all while making a few cents a day doing slave labor then I'll say the LGB community is being persecuted and/or discriminated against.

As for the T, I'm not going on that topic again.

Okay, so, as long as blatant public discrimination doesn't exist, it's simply not an issue.
Nope. Economically, they're statistically doing better than most of the country.

Well, using that little fictitious factoid...its exactly how the Jews ended up in Auschwitz. But yea, lets not pretend history doesnt tend to repeat itself.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:43:59  
Oh ***Nazi reference quick someone do something !


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By Lye 2015-03-31 12:44:08  
Oh my!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 12:46:51  
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It's happening.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-31 12:46:53  
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives

Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R.
That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr.
Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***

You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress."
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 12:47:00  
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Oh ***Nazi reference quick someone do something !
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:47:26  
In the words of pinky and the brain:

Today the gays tomorrow the world !
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-03-31 12:48:39  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives

Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R.
That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr.
Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***

You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress."
That...doesn't help *any* of your points.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:49:07  
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Replace gays with blacks and we've got the same line of argumentation that led to 'no colored folk allowed!' places of business.

Why should I have to serve darkies? They offend my sensibilities.
In order to do that we have to move all the gays into ghettos and take away all their money and give them very low paying jobs.

No we don't. Discrimination is discrimination. Because we haven't crowded people together and herded them into ghettoes doesn't mean discrimination don't exist. The line of reasoning for these types of 'refusals' is EXACTLY the same as when whites across America refused to serve 'colored' folk.

It was *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE then, it's *** HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE now.

By nipping things in the bud now, we prevent that type of gross inhumanity from happening again.
So it's just fear of what might happened with a hyperbolic comparison. Got it.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:49:39  
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I'll gladly ride in the back of the bus more leg room !
Same here. Way more comfortable and less people.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:49:57  
Anything could happen I suggest we build a bomb shelter just in case !
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 12:50:59  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
So it's just fear of what might happened with a hyperbolic comparison. Got it.

Mockingly playing off people's fears of potential abuses, which they've based on historically similar situations? Check.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:51:02  
Speaking of Indiana I found the state theme song:

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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-31 12:51:41  
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives

Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R.
That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr.
Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***

You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress."
That...doesn't help *any* of your points.
Yes it does, they carry around signs spouting "***" all over them. People have tried to shut them down and fail because their speech is protected.

I could call you any number of things, you could not have me arrested for them.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:51:44  
All of this over a cake. God damn! I'll buy you a cake if you shut up and move on to more important matters.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:52:22  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
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So it's just fear of what might happened with a hyperbolic comparison. Got it.

Mockingly playing off people's fears of potential abuses, which they've based on historically similar situations? Check.
Obama's socialistic policies say hello.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 12:52:42  
It's my right to mindlessly hate blacks, hispanics, asians and gays and NOTHING YOU SAY can stop me.

Why? BECAUSE JESUS SAID SO. And don't tell me Jesus wasn't white, I've seen the picture. Those luscious blue eyes, that milky white skin and those flowing locks. Man, Jesus was the whitest dude in Roman Palestine.
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By Lye 2015-03-31 12:54:19  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives

Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R.
That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr.
Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***

You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress."
That...doesn't help *any* of your points.
Yes it does, they carry around signs spouting "***" all over them. People have tried to shut them down and fail because their speech is protected.

I could call you any number of things, you could not have me arrested for them.

Except the captive audience doctrine would like a word with you.

That decision only took into account the non written remarks made by protestors. It focused on the "demonstration" and determined that there was no captive audience.

Stop being Nausi (yourself).

Furthermore, judicial review doesn't mean what you think it does. Yuck.
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:54:24  
Not to self don't search "getting gay with kids" on Google you'll have a bad time...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 12:54:48  
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All of this over a cake. God damn! I'll buy you a cake if you shut up and move on to more important matters.

Then I'm afraid you missed the point. It could be about not being allowed to enter a port-a-potty because you're gay and have a point.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 12:54:52  
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So it's just fear of what might happened with a hyperbolic comparison. Got it.

Mockingly playing off people's fears of potential abuses, which they've based on historically similar situations? Check.
Obama's socialistic policies say hello.

Keep treating socialism like it's a bad thing.

All the happy countries taking care of their citizens say otherwise.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-31 12:56:31  
I prefer a system where kids die in the streets, people are forced to sell themselves for money, men die in unsafe working conditions and a small cadre of extremely wealthy run our lives.

It'll be like Total Recall and I'll be Benny. Driving my cab and being a mutant underling. And no, you can't screw me Arnold. I have five kids to feed.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:57:39  
Someone said Nazis!

Cue the gay fascism!

Remember how they came into power, thanks to this guy. The SA leader.

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In September 1930, as a consequence of the Stennes Revolt in Berlin, Hitler assumed supreme command of the SA as its new Oberster SA-Führer. He sent a personal request to Röhm, asking him to return to serve as the SA's chief of staff. Röhm accepted this offer and began his new assignment on 5 January 1931. He brought radical new ideas to the SA, and appointed several close friends to its senior leadership. Previously, the SA formations were subordinate to the Nazi Party leadership of each Gaue. Röhm established new Gruppe which had no regional Nazi Party oversight. Each Gruppe extended over several regions and was commanded by a SA Gruppenführer who answered only to Röhm or Hitler.

The SA by this time numbered over a million members. Its traditional function of party leader escort had been given to the SS, but it continued its street battles with "Reds" and its attacks on Jews. The SA also attacked or intimidated anyone deemed hostile to the Nazi agenda, including uncooperative editors, professors, politicians, other local officials and businessmen.

Under Röhm, the SA also often took the side of workers in strikes and other labor disputes, attacking strikebreakers and supporting picket lines. SA intimidation contributed to the rise of the Nazis and the violent suppression of left-wing parties during electoral campaigns, but its reputation for street violence and heavy drinking was a hindrance, as was the open homosexuality of Röhm and other SA leaders such as his deputy Edmund Heines. One American journalist later wrote, "[Röhm's] chiefs, men of the rank of Gruppenfuehrer or Obergruppenfuehrer, commanding units of several hundred thousand Storm Troopers, were almost without exception homosexuals." In 1931, the Münchener Post, a Social Democratic newspaper, obtained and published Röhm's letters to a friend discussing his homosexual affairs.

Hitler was aware of Röhm's homosexuality. At this point they were so close that they addressed each other as du (the German familiar form of "you"). No other top Nazi leader enjoyed that privilege, and their close association led to rumors that Hitler himself was homosexual. Röhm was the only Nazi leader who dared to address Hitler by his first name "Adolf" rather than "mein Führer."

As Hitler rose to national power with his appointment as Chancellor in 1933, SA members were appointed auxiliary police and marched into local government offices forcing officials to surrender their authority to the Nazis.
Ernst Röhm
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By fonewear 2015-03-31 12:58:30  
This thread has everything Nazis gay wedding cakes and Jews !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 12:58:31  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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So it's just fear of what might happened with a hyperbolic comparison. Got it.

Mockingly playing off people's fears of potential abuses, which they've based on historically similar situations? Check.
Obama's socialistic policies say hello.

Keep treating socialism like it's a bad thing.

All the happy countries taking care of their citizens say otherwise.
Go to North Korea if you like it so much.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-03-31 12:59:37  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Bahamut.Milamber said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
"Hey, at least we don't kill 'em!" - American conservatives

Pleebo comes unhinged, produces the ultimate strawman and gets {+}s. Just another day in P&R.
That was the argument being presented. That gays are being killed in the middle east therefore and like such as hurr durr.
Where did anyone say "at least we don't kill em?" or anything even remotely close to that?

Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Freedom of speech doesn't really work like that lol. It's not really your right to call someone eles a ***

You're 100% wrong here, but thanks for validating the idea you don't believe in freedom of speech.
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words#United_States
"In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester's speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress."
That...doesn't help *any* of your points.
Yes it does, they carry around signs spouting "***" all over them. People have tried to shut them down and fail because their speech is protected.

I could call you any number of things, you could not have me arrested for them.
Go back, re-read what you quoted, specifically the distinction between personal and public.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-31 13:01:43  
Nationalize the banks!

More socialism for everyone!

Just waiting for the National Socialist Party of America to emerge.

Then history will fully have repeated.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-31 13:02:14  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Go to North Korea if you like it so much.

I love the smell of facile arguments in the afternoon.

Dictatorships are generally not socialist states regardless of the propaganda they feed their abused citizens.
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