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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-16 19:11:11  
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If there is one article about Latvia that will be it !
It really sums it up, lol.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 05:12:40  
Remember it's not a war crime when the U.S. does it!

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A leading international rights group on Tuesday criticized Syrian government bombings last November that targeted the de-facto capital of the Islamic State group, saying the airstrikes killed dozens of civilians and may amount to war crimes.

Amnesty International said in a statement that it has documented a series of Syrian government airstrikes between Nov. 11 and Nov. 29 that killed up to 115 civilians, including 14 children, in the city of Raqqa in northern Syria. On Nov. 25, The Associated Press reported that at least 60 people were killed in airstrikes that day in Raqqa.

Raqqa has been the seat of the Islamic State group since it declared a caliphate in areas under its control in Iraq and Syria.

Amnesty said the "unlawful" killings violated international humanitarian law and that some of the attacks may amount to war crimes. The London-based watchdog said the airstrikes included attacks on a mosque and a busy market "crammed full of civilians" as well as some buildings not being used for military purposes.

"Syrian government forces have shown flagrant disregard for the rules of war in these ruthless airstrikes. Some of these attacks give every indication of being war crimes," said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Program.

"They have carried out repeated attacks on civilian areas without clearly identifying military targets, a blatant violation of the requirement to distinguish between civilians and military targets," he added.

Citing Syrian authorities, who at the time said the attacks were meant to target IS members and bases, Amnesty said the evidence it gathered shows that, in most cases, no military targets could be identified in the vicinity of the areas attacked.

On Nov. 25, government forces bombed a number of civilian areas, striking a mosque, a busy market, shops, a transport hub, a storage facility and a residential building, Amnesty said.

"The residents of Raqqa already have to endure the reality of life under brutal IS rule. Punishing an entire civilian population simply because the city where they live is now under IS control can never be justified," said Luther.
Group: Syrian attacks on IS base may amount to war crimes
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 05:40:02  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Remember it's not a war crime when the U.S. does it!

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A leading international rights group on Tuesday criticized Syrian government bombings last November that targeted the de-facto capital of the Islamic State group, saying the airstrikes killed dozens of civilians and may amount to war crimes.

Amnesty International said in a statement that it has documented a series of Syrian government airstrikes between Nov. 11 and Nov. 29 that killed up to 115 civilians, including 14 children, in the city of Raqqa in northern Syria. On Nov. 25, The Associated Press reported that at least 60 people were killed in airstrikes that day in Raqqa.

Raqqa has been the seat of the Islamic State group since it declared a caliphate in areas under its control in Iraq and Syria.

Amnesty said the "unlawful" killings violated international humanitarian law and that some of the attacks may amount to war crimes. The London-based watchdog said the airstrikes included attacks on a mosque and a busy market "crammed full of civilians" as well as some buildings not being used for military purposes.

"Syrian government forces have shown flagrant disregard for the rules of war in these ruthless airstrikes. Some of these attacks give every indication of being war crimes," said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Program.

"They have carried out repeated attacks on civilian areas without clearly identifying military targets, a blatant violation of the requirement to distinguish between civilians and military targets," he added.

Citing Syrian authorities, who at the time said the attacks were meant to target IS members and bases, Amnesty said the evidence it gathered shows that, in most cases, no military targets could be identified in the vicinity of the areas attacked.

On Nov. 25, government forces bombed a number of civilian areas, striking a mosque, a busy market, shops, a transport hub, a storage facility and a residential building, Amnesty said.

"The residents of Raqqa already have to endure the reality of life under brutal IS rule. Punishing an entire civilian population simply because the city where they live is now under IS control can never be justified," said Luther.
Group: Syrian attacks on IS base may amount to war crimes
Except that Amnesty International already accused the US of war crimes.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 05:51:39  
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Remember it's not a war crime when the U.S. does it!

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A leading international rights group on Tuesday criticized Syrian government bombings last November that targeted the de-facto capital of the Islamic State group, saying the airstrikes killed dozens of civilians and may amount to war crimes.

Amnesty International said in a statement that it has documented a series of Syrian government airstrikes between Nov. 11 and Nov. 29 that killed up to 115 civilians, including 14 children, in the city of Raqqa in northern Syria. On Nov. 25, The Associated Press reported that at least 60 people were killed in airstrikes that day in Raqqa.

Raqqa has been the seat of the Islamic State group since it declared a caliphate in areas under its control in Iraq and Syria.

Amnesty said the "unlawful" killings violated international humanitarian law and that some of the attacks may amount to war crimes. The London-based watchdog said the airstrikes included attacks on a mosque and a busy market "crammed full of civilians" as well as some buildings not being used for military purposes.

"Syrian government forces have shown flagrant disregard for the rules of war in these ruthless airstrikes. Some of these attacks give every indication of being war crimes," said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Program.

"They have carried out repeated attacks on civilian areas without clearly identifying military targets, a blatant violation of the requirement to distinguish between civilians and military targets," he added.

Citing Syrian authorities, who at the time said the attacks were meant to target IS members and bases, Amnesty said the evidence it gathered shows that, in most cases, no military targets could be identified in the vicinity of the areas attacked.

On Nov. 25, government forces bombed a number of civilian areas, striking a mosque, a busy market, shops, a transport hub, a storage facility and a residential building, Amnesty said.

"The residents of Raqqa already have to endure the reality of life under brutal IS rule. Punishing an entire civilian population simply because the city where they live is now under IS control can never be justified," said Luther.
Group: Syrian attacks on IS base may amount to war crimes
Except that Amnesty International already accused the US of war crimes.
One minor difference too:

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The United States is not a participant in the International Criminal Court (ICC). The ICC is a permanent international criminal court, founded in 2002 by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Rome Statute) to "bring to justice the perpetrators of the worst crimes known to humankind – war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide", especially when national courts are unable or unwilling to do so.
United States and the International Criminal Court
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:17:31  
It's really easy to accuse other people of doing terrible things when you're sitting on your *** not doing anything to stop terrible people from doing unspeakable things to millions.

Don't get me wrong, I don't support bombing civillians and all efforts need to be made to ensure targets are enemies and to minimize civillian casualties to as close to zero as possible.

But at the same time, if you don't do anything, the same people look at you and start screaming, "why aren't you helping these people!?"

Fun times!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 07:18:40  
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It's really easy to accuse other people of doing terrible things when you're sitting on your *** not doing anything to stop terrible people from doing unspeakable things to millions.
Yeah, take that Canada!
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:19:42  
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It's really easy to accuse other people of doing terrible things when you're sitting on your *** not doing anything to stop terrible people from doing unspeakable things to millions.
Yeah, take that Canada!

Jokes aside, Canada isn't nearly as worthless or helpless as we like to pretend. :p
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:20:42  
Oh, also, don't forget to cue the isolationist potatoes who think living in a bubble is not only wise, but even possible.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 07:24:07  
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isolationist
An outdated term really.

Even the most reclusive of countries still turns to other countries for trade, resources, etc.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 07:24:12  
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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It's really easy to accuse other people of doing terrible things when you're sitting on your *** not doing anything to stop terrible people from doing unspeakable things to millions.
Yeah, take that Canada!

Jokes aside, Canada isn't nearly as worthless or helpless as we like to pretend. :p
No, they are actually smarter than we give them credit for.

I mean, who would you rather be, the big badass Chuck Norris type or the seedy, shrimpy Gilbert Gottfried who tells the badass who to beat up?

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Oh, also, don't forget to cue the isolationist potatoes who think living in a bubble is not only wise, but even possible.
Our flowerhead hasn't posted in a while, I think a mod pulled the weed out of the thread and sprayed weedkiller all over it (aka he got topicbanned)
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:30:00  
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Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
isolationist
An outdated term really.

Even the most reclusive of countries still turns to other countries for trade, resources, etc.

I know that. There are still people on this forum (and more than just our favorite conspiracy theorist) that promote it none-the-less.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:31:44  
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I mean, who would you rather be, the big badass Chuck Norris type or the seedy, shrimpy Gilbert Gottfried who tells the badass who to beat up?

Uhh.

C) The Morgan Freeman or Brian Cox character who offed the Gilbert Gottfried guy and now uses those resources to do awesome ***.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 07:33:23  
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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isolationist
An outdated term really.

Even the most reclusive of countries still turns to other countries for trade, resources, etc.

I know that. There are still people on this forum (and more than just our favorite conspiracy theorist) that promote it none-the-less.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 07:35:46  
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I mean, who would you rather be, the big badass Chuck Norris type or the seedy, shrimpy Gilbert Gottfried who tells the badass who to beat up?

Uhh.

C) The Morgan Freeman or Brian Cox character who offed the Gilbert Gottfried guy and now uses those resources to do awesome ***.
Which country would that be? Only one I can think of would be Germany.

Poor Canada, having to now learn German in addition to French.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:38:43  
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I mean, who would you rather be, the big badass Chuck Norris type or the seedy, shrimpy Gilbert Gottfried who tells the badass who to beat up?

Uhh.

C) The Morgan Freeman or Brian Cox character who offed the Gilbert Gottfried guy and now uses those resources to do awesome ***.
Which country would that be? Only one I can think of would be Germany.

Poor Canada, having to now learn German in addition to French.

Oh. I wasn't really trying to make a comparison to any specific country there. Uh...okay, then. I pick D) The drunk uncle that everyone likes because he let them do all the stuff that their parents wouldn't. (So, Ireland/Scotland?)
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 07:40:48  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I mean, who would you rather be, the big badass Chuck Norris type or the seedy, shrimpy Gilbert Gottfried who tells the badass who to beat up?

Uhh.

C) The Morgan Freeman or Brian Cox character who offed the Gilbert Gottfried guy and now uses those resources to do awesome ***.
Which country would that be? Only one I can think of would be Germany.

Poor Canada, having to now learn German in addition to French.

Oh. I wasn't really trying to make a comparison to any specific country there. Uh...okay, then. I pick D) The drunk uncle that everyone likes because he let them do all the stuff that their parents wouldn't. (So, Ireland/Scotland?)
Britain.

Ireland would be the drunk uncle who gets in fights all of the time.

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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 07:52:04  
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Ireland would be the drunk uncle who gets in fights all of the time.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 07:58:00  
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Ireland would be the drunk uncle who gets in fights all of the time.

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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 08:01:03  
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Ireland would be the drunk uncle who gets in fights all of the time.


This could be an endless loop.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 08:04:56  
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It's really easy to accuse other people of doing terrible things when you're sitting on your *** not doing anything to stop terrible people from doing unspeakable things to millions.
Yeah, take that Canada!

Jokes aside, Canada isn't nearly as worthless or helpless as we like to pretend. :p

God I couldn't live without hockey and maple syrup.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 08:14:32  
Eternal return exists on this forum.

How many times have people talked about the same subject over and over.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 08:15:51  
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Eternal return exists on this forum.

How many times have people talked about the same subject over and over.

A potentially limitless amount of times if it is, in fact, eternal return!
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 08:46:25  
It was meant to be an abstract thought experiment but I think I've seen it exist in real life.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-17 09:32:16  

WaPo: Hey, let’s take representation out of representative government, or something...
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:34:25  
How the Jews got their groove back ?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 09:40:17  

How does eliminating the absolutely asinine electoral college/votes system hurt representative government again?
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 09:48:56  
I've been to Israel it is very warm and pleasant oh you mean people not the weather !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-17 09:59:05  
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How does eliminating the absolutely asinine electoral college/votes system hurt representative government again?
What's wrong with the electoral college system we have in place?

If you think about it, the electoral college system allows a state vote, instead of a population vote.

Having a popular vote would hurt the representation of states that do not have a large population or a major metropolis as a significant portion of the population. NY, CA, and TX would have the most to say in a population vote than in an electoral college vote.
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