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By Bloodrose 2015-03-13 14:07:14  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
I dream to see an America where police kick in your door and haul you out in chains you copyright infringing scumbag for singing happy birthday to your child without paying a royalty.

How dare you put that on a PC and think WE weren't watching?

25-40 years in prison for anyone who pirates or watches a pirated video.
Then they'd never make any money, and would have to resort to having an actual story worth going to see a film for, rather than being laden with millions of dollars of special effects.
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By Lye 2015-03-13 14:08:03  
Ramyrez said: »
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Except they don't copyright them.

Eh?

I'm honestly unclear of the argument you're tring to make.

The chances of people being pursued for using a comic strip in a not-for-profit fashion are infinitesimally small, and even if they did, the posts containing the imagine would be removed and that would likely be the end of the story.

Lye said: »
He has shut down people resuming/modifying his work (as I'm sure your aware).

Aye, but nothing was modified.
The point I made is that people don't copyright memes, ergo, there is not copyright infringement.

As to "nothing was modified" do you mean this:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130225/16405822102/copyright-strikes-again-real-calvin-hobbes-shut-down-copyright-claim.shtml
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:08:06  
They don't have stories worth seeing even if I legitimately watch movies...

I haven't paid to watch a movie at the theater for like 4 years.
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By Lye 2015-03-13 14:08:45  
Verda said: »
Because I know people that try to glorify all aspects of their way of life whether it's drug use, alcohol use or their relationship with food. Your anger after sealed the deal.

My anger? Which post expressed my anger? I think this is more about you than about me.....

Perhaps a confirmation bias regarding people glorifying various aspects of their lives?
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:09:26  
I prefer TV over movies 90% of the time.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-13 14:09:52  

I saw that, but that situation is a bit different. But yeah, Waterson is really big on nothing being modified and his publisher decided that use fell within that category.

Frankly, the guy had an argument for "fair use", but he ceased because he wasn't really make much money on it at all and it wasn't worth the fight.

Also, he contacted them to check on the "okayness" of what he was doing.

In this instance all Verda did was repost an unedited comic. Not really a major deal at this point.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:12:04  
I'm e-mailing the creator of Calvin and Hobbes as we speak !

How dare you !
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:15:17  
I can't believe it's not butter !

But here I am eating it...
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-13 14:16:20  
I find it interesting, that after several months, possible a year, and 400+ pages, amongst several hundreds of threads of reposted work, etc. that there is finally some *** about copyright infringement.

Considering most memes *can't* be copyright protected, as they are taken from already copyright protected works of people, films, etc., but are used under the "fair use" clause.

That said, the ones that don't fall under the above critera can, and some have been, copyright protected, but by bringing them to civil court for damages incurred, would be doing a greater disservice to their brand/image/whatever, and to the fans who love them, which is why a lot of artists and their lawyers (unless there is a blatant misuse of said image that would damage the franchise or ability to generate profits) refuse to act on it, and instead issue challenges as to who can come up with the best use of their image for satirical use.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:17:11  
Bloodrose said: »
I find it interesting, that after several months, possible a year, and 400+ pages, amongst several hundreds of threads of reposted work, etc. that there is finally some *** about copyright infringement.

Considering most memes *can't* be copyright protected, as they are taken from already copyright protected works of people, films, etc., but are used under the "fair use" clause.

That said, the ones that don't fall under the above critera can, and some have been, copyright protected, but by bringing them to civil court for damages incurred, would be doing a greater disservice to their brand/image/whatever, and to the fans who love them, which is why a lot of artists and their lawyers (unless there is a blatant misuse of said image that would damage the franchise or ability to generate profits) refuse to act on it, and instead issue challenges as to who can come up with the best use of their image for satirical use.

Can I copyright this post ?
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By Lye 2015-03-13 14:17:28  
Verda said: »
Lye said: »
Verda said: »
Because I know people that try to glorify all aspects of their way of life whether it's drug use, alcohol use or their relationship with food. Your anger after sealed the deal.

My anger? Which post expressed my anger? I think this is more about you than about me.....

Perhaps a confirmation bias regarding people glorifying various aspects of their lives?

I'll give you an A for effort but you can't claim your anger wasn't anger. It just makes you look worse.

I don't with you any harm. If anything the comment on health was because I don't want to see you or anyone else fall to heart disease. This has gotten to the point I can't believe I'm replying so I'll just let you guys have your fun.

You should check out my post history. Here:

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/1646/post-your-pics-thread/392#1987141

You'll understand I take your concern about my health to heart! Despite what you perceive as my rage.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:18:51  
I'd post a picture of myself but my *** aren't that big in real life !
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-13 14:20:17  
Lye said: »
You'll understand I take your concern about my health to heart!

you're one nordic looking mf'er.
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By Lye 2015-03-13 14:21:51  
Siren.Mosin said: »
Lye said: »
You'll understand I take your concern about my health to heart!

you're one nordic looking mf'er.

If only I had a fantastically full beard!
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-13 14:23:00  
I want one too, but I just can't. it gets all ichty & crazy.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:23:24  
Sadly I can't grow a beard worth being proud of.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-03-13 14:23:54  
Verda said: »
Because I know people that try to glorify all aspects of their way of life whether it's drug use, alcohol use or their relationship with food. Your anger after sealed the deal.
Remember how someone in a different thread called you a reactionary tool and you went off on a rant about "Why do I post here blah-blah-blah"?
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By Lye 2015-03-13 14:23:58  
United and beardless we stand!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-13 14:23:58  
Alright, Übermensch quota has been met.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:24:28  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Alright, Übermensch quota has been met.

Nietzsche now that is a hell of a mustache !


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By Ramyrez 2015-03-13 14:24:34  
Lye said: »
You'll understand I take your concern about my health to heart! Despite what you perceive as my rage.

Hey, the healthiest looking people out there drop dead of heart attacks.

Sometimes there's no stopping that ***.

You can, of course, minimize the risk by living a healthier life.

I'm just sayin'.
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-13 14:24:59  
I lurves my beard.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-03-13 14:26:45  
I'm bored of my beard, but all the rest of the world disagrees.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-03-13 14:27:11  
Ramyrez said: »
I'm just sayin'.

you aren't saying ***.

don't take life too seriously, you'll never make it out alive.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:27:23  
I might grow one for the hockey playoffs.

I just can't stand having a mustache everything else I can deal with.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-13 14:28:28  
4.5 pages, what did I miss?
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 14:28:53  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
4.5 pages, what did I miss?

We went from comedy to copyright laws to growing a beard !
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-13 14:28:58  
Siren.Mosin said: »
Ramyrez said: »
I'm just sayin'.

you aren't saying ***.

don't take life too seriously, you'll never make it out alive.

Well yeah. What I was suggesting is that all that exercise and good eating just generally makes for a slightly prettier corpse in the end.~
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