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By fonewear 2015-02-22 10:14:13  
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By fonewear 2015-02-22 16:55:28  
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-23 01:11:23  
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Potential Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham has "no doubt" that President Obama loves his country, refuting comments made by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani earlier this week.

“Well, I love Rudy, but I don’t want to go there. The nation’s very divided. President Obama has divided us more than he’s brought us together and I don’t want to add to that division,” Graham initially said on ABC's "This Week" today, before adding, “I have no doubt that he loves his country. I have no doubt that he’s a patriot. But his primary job as president of the United States is to defend this country and he’s failing miserably.”

The South Carolina senator said that part of that failure stems from labeling the threat posed by ISIS and other terrorist groups as “violent extremism” instead of “radical" Islamists.

“They’ve adopted a theory of religion that’s 1,000 years old that requires a worldwide caliphate that will purify the Islamic religion, kill or convert every Christian and Jew and vegetarian in their way,” Graham said. “They're not going to stop unless somebody stops them.”

The Obama administration has faced criticism for its reluctance to label "violent extremism" as "Islamic," maintaining that ISIS and other extremist groups represent a perversion of the religion and to call them Islamic would legitimize a false claim. Graham, however, took an opposite position.

“I've never been more worried about my country than I am today in terms of radical Islam, and yes, it is radical Islam,” he said.

But Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson defended the administration’s stance in a separate interview on “This Week” today.

“In my view, if we start referring to ISIL [ISIS] as occupying any form of the Islamic theology, we’re pretty much dignifying them as occupying some form of that faith,” Johnson said. “They don’t. Islam is about peace and brotherhood. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in this world and the true Islamic faith has nothing to do with what ISIL represents, and so, to start labeling them as Islam or Islamic State in any respect I think gives them far more dignity than they deserve.”

In the fight against ISIS, Graham said that he wants “the Republican party to talk openly about the hard things, like having boots on the ground in Syria and Iraq, American boots on the ground” and emphasized the need for the use of military power.

“There’s no doubt in my mind militarily that we cannot succeed in our endeavors to degrade and destroy ISIL without having an American component,” Graham said on “This Week.”

Graham also weighed in on the battle in Congress over Department of Homeland Security funding, currently tied up over a House GOP effort to block President Obama’s executive action on immigration. Graham said he believes the executive orders are unconstitutional, but thinks they should be dealt with in the courts so that Congress can move forward on DHS funding.

“I hope my House colleagues will understand that our best bet is to challenge this in court, that if we don’t fund the Department of Homeland Security, we’ll get blamed as a party,” Graham said.

Graham, who created a presidential exploratory committee last month as he mulls a 2016 bid, and traveled to Iowa this week, said he “doesn’t know” if he could win the Republican nomination, but that he’s “going to give it a try.”

“I’m trying to run a campaign, if I decide to run, that will focus on securing this nation,” Graham said. “I think I could create a pathway forward to straighten out the mess we’re in and we’ll see where that goes.”
'No Doubt' President Obama Loves His Country, Says Sen. Lindsey Graham
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By Altimaomega 2015-02-23 02:39:04  
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President Obama has divided us more than he’s brought us together and I don’t want to add to that division,” Graham initially said

I stopped reading after that line.....
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-23 02:43:33  
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
President Obama has divided us more than he’s brought us together and I don’t want to add to that division,” Graham initially said

I stopped reading after that line.....
I stopped here:
"I have no doubt that he’s a patriot. But his primary job as president of the United States is to defend this country and he’s failing miserably."
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President Obama has divided us more than he’s brought us together and I don’t want to add to that division,” Graham initially said

I stopped reading after that line.....
I stopped here:
"I have no doubt that he’s a patriot. But his primary job as president of the United States is to defend this country and he’s failing miserably."

wow
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-23 02:52:19  
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Al Jazeera's Senior Political Analyst Marwan Bishara details a phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US House Speaker John Boehner - 10 days before the Israeli leader's controversial speech.

JB: Shalom Bibi, nice to hear from you.

BN: Hello John.

JB: Did you get permission from the president to call me?

BN: That's funny, if only it weren't so tragic. He probably expects me to. What chutzpah!

JB: You seem to be under much pressure, elections and all.

BN: Between Obama's attacks, and attacks on my wife, my patience is running out.

JB: I heard that the Israeli media is after Sara for overspending. Not even the liberal media here goes after a politician's takeout and make-up bills!

BN: Tell me about it; there's nothing I can do to change her or the liberal media.

JB: I read in Vanity Fair that Sara is "running the show" in Israel, and that "she can make or break anyone". Oh, man! Is that true?

BN: Yeah right, like you read that fashionable pop culture mag.

JB: Ahem.

BN: Look, your wife Debbie says: 'I'm just going to do whatever I can to stay OUT of the way.' But my Sara says: I'm just going to do whatever I can to stay IN the way.

JB: Oh, so you read my profile too.

BN: Yes, of course. I am impressed by how someone like you can be a janitor and years later become the Speaker of the United States' House of Representatives. Amazing. Only in America. And Israel.

JB: And you know, I am the third ranking man in Washington, but Debbie still works as a cashier at a flower shop.

BN: Oh, not my wife, she's high maintenance. Sara is like your tan; I need her; she completes me, even if she brings me ridicule.

JB: I hear you.

BN: Our liberal media is mean and has been after me and Sara since we married almost 25 years ago. Come to think of it, I was deputy foreign minister then, when Obama was a troublesome student. But now he's the darling of the liberal media. Obama is a media invention. And they say I'm a media creation!

JB: But at least you've got American billionaires Sheldon Adelson and Ronald Lauder on your side, buying into Israel's popular media outlets, Israel Hayom and Channel 10.

BN: They're more right-wing than Likud and more anti-Palestinian than yours truly.

JB: So cheer up, you're coming to speak to both houses of Congress for the third time. You're making history.

BN: Yeah, but as you can see the plot thickens against me; even Joe Biden, the self-declared Zionist, says he has a previous engagement and can't make it. Kerry is also leaving town all of a sudden and won't even attend the AIPAC meeting!

JB: As if the vice president does anything meaningful. He's as hilarious as what's her name in the TV comedy, the Veep.

BN: But the White House is putting so much pressure that Israel's friends and even neo-cons like Robert Kagan and others are saying we made a mistake and are asking me to back out or cancel. Sometimes I feel all my friends have either betrayed me or will betray me.

JB: Now that sounds like paranoia...

BN: Even the friendly US media is calling our deal, "less like a masterstroke than a singularly destructive unforced error".

JB: Hey, if you have second thoughts we'll cancel. But that won't be wise. Stop reading the press.

BN: Of course not, offence is the best defence in these times. I just told the media that I knew all about the terrible nuclear deal they're reaching. Obama is furious.

JB: Once you get here and make the speech, the noise will subside. If all goes well, Republicans and Likud will govern for a long while. Did you know that 87 out of the 96 new members of Congress are Republicans?

BN: Speaking of Congress, what about the petition to postpone or boycott the speech?

JB: Don't worry. Twenty-three have sent me a letter of objection. It doesn't change anything. With Muslim Congressman Keith Allison championing it, it won't have much credibility or popularity.

BN: I don't know any more; it sounds to me like the commander-in-chief is actually the 'Muslim-in-chief' nowadays.

JB: Yeah, well, we suspected Barack Hussein was really a closet Muslim from the start.

BN: Seriously, he's defending Muslims and Islam as if the terror and terrorists haunting us everywhere are a figment of our imagination; as if there's nothing Islamic about them.

JB: Yeah, as if they've come from Mars. Look, he's just covering his tracks, trying to be original and above the fray.

BN: Original? Oh, no. More like delusional or opportunistic. He's trying to be politically correct and please all these Arabs and Muslim partners of his.

JB: It won't get him anywhere, he'll be back in the same corner come summer time; he's marching in place.

BN: I hope you are right. Because referring to Islamic terrorism as 'violent extremism' is a total distortion of reality - an insult to our intelligence.

JB: Pretty soon he's going to be a lame duck president that no one takes seriously as we the Republicans control both Houses of Congress, with only 20 months to new elections.

BN: But Obama has been making new policies like on Cuba, and issuing new executive orders like on immigration.

JB: These are details and they could be rolled back or bypassed once we get another Republican into the White House. My question: Are you going to be in office come end of March?

BN: They don't refer to me as 'Putinyahu' for nothing; like the Russian president, I am not going anywhere any time soon. Haven't you heard? I am the new King David, or so says the Evangelical head of 'Christians for United Israel', Pastor Hagee.

JB: As a Catholic, I tell you some of these Evangelicals are total nuts.

BN: But we need their support. They've been very helpful to us in Congress too.

JB: And that's why I want you to come here and expose the naivete and recklessness of the president.

BN: He's a hypocrite ... and they call me hypocrite! You know, he's probably calculating that sweet-talking Islam and Muslims, and coordinating with Tehran on Iraq and Syria, could appease the ayatollahs into making a deal.

JB: The Iranians are far savvier than to be manipulated by Islamic cheerleading. But coordination with them on ISIL and Assad is reckless.

BN: I am fine with Assad staying. It's better for our security. He's guarded the peace on the Golan for 40 years. What worries me is that Obama is ready to sign any deal, make any compromise.

JB: He's searching for a legacy in foreign affairs when all else has failed.

BN: And the ayatollahs know that and will squeeze him to the end, in order to maintain the enrichment capacity to produce a bomb when that suits them.

JB: That would be catastrophic.

BN: I have an idea.

JB: You're not going to spy on the White House are you?!

BN: What makes you think we don't already?

JB: That's not funny. Is that why you say you know the details of the nuclear negotiations? I don't want to hear about it.

BN: Look, first we try to convince Congress and the American people of the danger of an Obama deal with Iran in order to put pressure on the administration to back off. But what if that doesn't work?

JB: Go on.

BN: Do you remember how in 1980, the Reagan's team reached a secret deal with the ayatollahs that delayed the release of the American hostages until after the elections to humiliate Carter into defeat?

JB: I remember hearing about it. But it didn't actually happen, did it?

BN: Well let's try to intimidate/convince the Iranians not to make a deal with Obama by threatening to annul it after the elections. We convince them to wait until the next Republican president takes office.

JB: But that means making promises about a deal over their nuclear programme.

BN: We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Like Reagan, we can make sure it eventually works to our advantage somehow.

JB: You mean like with the Iran Contra affair or something like it.

BN: We could find back channels to work with the Iranians mostly covertly - they prefer it blurry to maintain a radical posture domestically - but effective enough to pressures the Arabs into submission in Palestine and the Gulf.

JB: But that's just an idea, right? We are still trying to convince Washington and Congress in particular to vote for more sanctions and overturn a presidential veto if need be.

BN: Yes, but we also have other interesting ideas if that doesn't work.

JB: More radical! Are you kiddin' me?

BN: We don't kid about our survival. Obama better watch out.

JB: I don't know and don't want to know what that even means; see you next week.

BN: Ha ha.
Netanyahu calls Boehner, and goes on the offensive
'They don't call me Putinyahu for nothing.'
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-23 02:54:03  
Altimaomega said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Altimaomega said: »
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President Obama has divided us more than he’s brought us together and I don’t want to add to that division,” Graham initially said

I stopped reading after that line.....
I stopped here:
"I have no doubt that he’s a patriot. But his primary job as president of the United States is to defend this country and he’s failing miserably."

wow
Translation: The president is a great guy who loves his country, he just sucks at everything he tries to do (and won't do) for America.
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 09:44:58  
Using the Oscars as a platform for feminism: Check


Summary: women need higher wages blah blah blah I'm proud to be a women blah blah blah women are special blah blah blah

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/22/patricia-arquette-best-supporting-actress_n_6715610.html?utm_hp_ref=women&ir=Women
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 09:58:17  
There is a good article about Obama being like Nero from the days of Rome I'll see if I can find it.

President Theodore Roosevelt said, “Speak softly, and carry a big stick.” More than a century later, President Barack Obama speaks loudly (and incessantly) and carries a twig.

Like Nero of ancient Rome, Obama fiddles, takes selfies and does Internet interviews while the world burns. Is he trying to distract himself, or us? To use a sports analogy, is he trying to “run out the clock” and leave office before terrorist fires consume us?

We have a president who is mismatched to the times in which we live. He is unserious when seriousness is required. The tyrants of the world have taken notice and rightly calculated they can pretty much do what they want without paying a heavy penalty.

The administration is pleased about a “cease-fire” between Russia and Ukraine, negotiated by the leaders of France and Germany. But even they are skeptical Russian President Vladimir Putin will abide by it. Why should he? Who's to stop him from solidifying his land grab in Eastern Ukraine, not to mention Crimea, which he has already “digested” with little response other than sanctions? For now he seems willing to endure them.

This does not bode well for a negotiated deal with Iran over that country's nuclear weapons program. Iran's mullahs don't believe they will pay much of a price for lying to the West about constructing a nuclear bomb and a missile system to carry it as far as the U.S. But an agreement will allow President Obama to brag about the “success” of diplomacy and justify his reluctance to do what is necessary to stop them.

The president has said he was elected to “end wars, not start them.” That would be a worthy goal if ending a war could be done unilaterally. But if one side still is fighting, the war isn't over.

Islamic fanatics, who are recruiting and growing in numbers by the day and claim to have a presence throughout Europe and inside the United States, believe they have marching orders from Allah. They will not be deterred by “infidels.” They see American resolve extending no further than dropping bombs.

Obama said ISIS (or ISIL, as he calls it) “will lose.” But he didn't outline a battle plan in his request to Congress for additional powers — only that he would not send in ground troops; a few special forces maybe. A Washington Post editorial was correctly headlined: “No Way To Fight A War.”

It's worth recalling President Franklin Roosevelt's “date of infamy” speech to Congress following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and contrasting it with President Obama's request to Congress and his overall reluctance to aggressively confront the terrorists.

Here's FDR:

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory. I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us. Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger. With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph — so help us God.

That's what leadership sounds and looks like when it is backed by action. The president should stop talking and create a legitimate coalition charged with initiating air and ground assaults on ISIS targets.

He should devise a strategy for closing our borders to Muslim extremists and for expelling those found already here.

The president should do all he can to protect American lives.

He should act.

He should lead.

William Shakespeare wrote the following words for Macbeth. But insert the president's name for the first word “Life” and you could not have a better description of America's Nero:

(Obama's) but a walking shadow, a poor player

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage

And then is heard no more: it is a tale

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing.

Read more: http://triblive.com/opinion/featuredcommentary/7788930-74/president-obama-nero#ixzz3SaIP9B1r
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-23 10:17:35  
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Team America World Police! About time you guys start a few wars with Israel, Palestine, Irak, Iran, ISIS, Russia, Ukraine.

how about if we just give them a bunch of guns and ammo
and you call us once it's over?
or it's gotten noticeably worse?
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:23:25  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Team America World Police! About time you guys start a few wars with Israel, Palestine, Irak, Iran, ISIS, Russia, Ukraine.

It's not a war it's a "conflict resolution"
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:28:09  
If you think Obama is going to do anything before he leaves in 2016 to help end ISIS I'm afraid I got some bad news for you !

His slogan will be : Let Hillary deal with it !

The next President will have to deal with ISIS throughout their first term.

I don't think military strategy is one of Hillary's strongest suits no pun intended.

We need a leader for the next 4 years not a politician.
 
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:32:50  
If Hillary win's and God knows I don't want that she is going to be in over her head. I don't see her being a successful President.

She has no history of leadership. Being the wife of a President doesn't qualify you to run the country.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-23 10:35:39  
So about that global coalition v. ISIS?

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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-23 10:36:42  
We need you Canada, you may be our only hope.
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:37:42  
I think Canada still uses horse mounted fighters !

I heard they are upgrading their muskets to modern rifles though !


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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:43:22  
All you need to know about Canada's army

50,600 total personnel vs USA 1,373,183
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-02-23 10:44:19  
canada uses frustrated sigh....
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By fonewear 2015-02-23 10:45:59  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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All you need to know about Canada's army

50,600 total personnel vs USA 1,373,183

Does that include the horses?

Horses are Canada's army reserve !
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By Ramyrez 2015-02-23 10:49:01  
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If Hillary win's and God knows I don't want that she is going to be in over her head. I don't see her being a successful President.

She has no history of leadership. Being the wife of a President doesn't qualify you to run the country.

Which is funny, because if you were a couple years older you'd remember all the jokes at the time about how she was the one telling Bill what to do the whole time anyhow...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-23 10:49:11  
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If Hillary win's and God knows I don't want that she is going to be in over her head. I don't see her being a successful President.

She has no history of leadership. Being the wife of a President doesn't qualify you to run the country.

I'm down for cloning George Washington. He knew his way around a scrap. Would probably have ISIS tied up in time for second term.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-23 10:50:15  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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If Hillary win's and God knows I don't want that she is going to be in over her head. I don't see her being a successful President.

She has no history of leadership. Being the wife of a President doesn't qualify you to run the country.

I'm down for cloning George Washington. He knew his way around a scrap. Would probably have ISIS tied up in time for second term.
You know he would get Flower-head's vote.

Question is: Which party would he run for?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-02-23 10:52:49  
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
fonewear said: »
If Hillary win's and God knows I don't want that she is going to be in over her head. I don't see her being a successful President.

She has no history of leadership. Being the wife of a President doesn't qualify you to run the country.

I'm down for cloning George Washington. He knew his way around a scrap. Would probably have ISIS tied up in time for second term.
You know he would get Flower-head's vote.

Question is: Which party would he run for?

George Washington was perfect. He'd run as an American. In the American party. For the American people.

Then he'd find out who this Mel Gibson guy is and shake the hand of a true.... Patriot.
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