Random Politics & Religion #00

No mention of suspected on wiki. What's your point?

What's even more stupid is seeing a man get burnt alive by a radical group of murderers and believing the first thing that you see that attempts to justify their actions.

No mention of suspected on wiki. What's your point?

I guess when you see david blaine levitate you think he can really fly right?

They are either dead as wiki says or suspected, which wiki doesn't say. What other way is there?

That... made no sense.

The point that you seem to be pulling away from was that it (again like the other ISIS vids) looked fake. Which is what blazed was posting. To which you answered too. No one but you have mentioned justifying anything.

Okay, so what if it's fake? They've murdered a bunch of people in horrible ways, and if they didn't murder the pilot by fire, he's still a captive and is likely to be dead soon anyway if he isn't already. I merely question the mindset of someone who goes out of their way to support a theory that says that maybe these awful band of murderers are instead a very slightly less awful band of murderers.

My argument was that they were dead. The argument of Blaze seemed to be that 11 of the people who were suspected to be the hijackers are still alive. The only reason I used "suspected" was because there is still some question as to the identity of each one of them, so it's sort of irrelevant. The Wiki supported the notion that they were dead, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.

From wiki
FBI


Mohamed Atta, an Egyptian national, was the ringleader of the hijackers.
Immediately after the attacks, the Federal Bureau of Investigation started PENTTBOM, the largest criminal inquiry in the history of the United States. At its height, more than half of the FBI's agents worked on the investigation and followed a half-million leads.[266] The FBI concluded that there was "clear and irrefutable" evidence linking al-Qaeda and bin Laden to the attacks.[267] The FBI was quickly able to identify the hijackers, including leader Mohamed Atta, when his luggage was discovered at Boston's Logan Airport. Atta had been forced to check two of his three bags due to space limitations on the 19-seat commuter flight he took to Boston.[268] Due to a new policy instituted to prevent flight delays, the luggage failed to make it aboard American Airlines Flight 11 as planned. The luggage contained the hijackers' names, assignments and al-Qaeda connections. "It had all these Arab-language (sic) papers that amounted to the Rosetta stone of the investigation", said one FBI agent.[269]

Within hours of the attacks, the FBI released the names and in many cases the personal details of the suspected pilots and hijackers.[270][271] By midday, the U.S. National Security Agency and German intelligence agencies had intercepted communications pointing to Osama bin Laden.[272][273] On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about possible nationalities and aliases.[274] Fifteen of the men were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one (Atta) from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.

There no notion on wiki. It's fact as far as wiki reports.
Where's the question of identity?
You used suspected because you agreed with him, but didn't want to look like you were agreeing fully.
What are you talking about.

There no notion on wiki. It's fact as far as wiki reports. Where's the question of identity? You used suspected because you agreed with him, but didn't want to look like you were agreeing fully. What are you talking about.

I absolutely was not agreeing with him. There are a number of conspiracy sites that claim that some of the suspected hijackers are still alive due to forged identities and the like, which is what I figured he was referring to after he made that claim. Thus, if true, they would be the suspected hijackers, which really doesn't change a whole lot. There were still 19 of them that died, so I fail to see why he brought it up in the first place.

That is a timeline. Within hours, yes they were suspected. What do you expect. They are hardly going to have concrete proof after 'hours'. Show me that they are still suspected present day. It does not. They still quote it as fact.

See what happens when I leave you guys alone !

I NEED AN ADULT!

Holy crap, stop arguing just to argue. I think that the suspected hijackers were the actual hijackers and that they actually died. I'm not the one that liked his post when he said that they found 11/19 of them. That was YOU. Justify yourself instead of trying to nitpick me.

It's highly unlikely that the pilot is alive. Just on the executions of the two prisoners that Jordan had, but executed after the video was released would have killed him.

Plus, Jordanian officials inferred his death to be on 1/3, well before the video was released. Gave ISIS plenty of time to touch it up to make it look pretty.

Guys the vid of the guy burnt alive and the guys behaded are fake. ISIS is good people don't be racist cause they're brown or hate cause of religion.

Suspected hijackers. Don't try so hard to be on the side of ISIS, broski.