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By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 12:19:49  
I've thought for some time part of the issue was self-loathing, kind of explains a few things.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 12:22:09  
Well, to be fair, he's begun to distance himself from those who take extreme right wing stances, that ultimately hurt the conservative movement, and is starting to lean more centrist. Accepting certain liberal ideologies with a conservative mind.

An example would be his stance that while he's not gay, he has no issue with those that are, nor does he deny them the same rights a hetero couple would have. That said, he also feels that if a church doesn't wish to be a part of the ceremony of holy union, they shouldn't be forced to participate, or discriminated against for refusing to do so.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-31 12:57:23  
Bloodrose said: »
Well, to be fair, he's begun to distance himself from those who take extreme right wing stances, that ultimately hurt the conservative movement, and is starting to lean more centrist. Accepting certain liberal ideologies with a conservative mind.

An example would be his stance that while he's not gay, he has no issue with those that are, nor does he deny them the same rights a hetero couple would have. That said, he also feels that if a church doesn't wish to be a part of the ceremony of holy union, they shouldn't be forced to participate, or discriminated against for refusing to do so.
I don't believe anyone is attempting to legislate that religions/religious institutions must perform services for same-sex couples.
What they are attempting to point out is that having "marriages" vs "civil unions" is fodder for separate but equal arguments, and marriage licenses convey secular benefits/rights/responsibilities.

If marriage had no secular impact, I doubt anyone would care.

As a side note, religious institutions must recognize that hiring practices are governed by the state, and comply accordingly with discrimination laws with regards to employment, or otherwise face the consequences.

*edit: by anyone, meaning non-whacko
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By Blazed1979 2015-01-31 13:12:43  
Whats crazy about "texas belongs to followers of Jesus christ and Muslims should go back home" is that muslims BELIEVE and FOLLOW Jesus Christ lol....its one of the 'pillars' on which the faith is built on...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-01-31 13:36:56  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Related, I guess: New Pew Research Center surveys of citizens and a representative sample of scientists connected to the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) show powerful crosscurrents that both recognize the achievements of scientists and expose stark fissures between scientists and citizens on a range of science, engineering and technology issues.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-01-31 13:40:33  
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Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 20:57:20  
Bloodrose said: »
Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.
Man, what did I do to piss you off where you have to insult me so?
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 20:58:33  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.
Man, what did I do to piss you off where you have to insult me so?
you stopped acting like the a "Krazy Konservative"

Edit: You both gave predictable responses, although Pleebo's use of Jessica Walters is better.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 21:11:12  
Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.
Man, what did I do to piss you off where you have to insult me so?
you stopped acting like the a "Krazy Konservative"

Edit: You both gave predictable responses, although Pleebo's use of Jessica Walters is better.
I didn't see Pleebo's response until after I posted mine, I try to backread before posting -.-
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-01-31 22:57:52  
I still am not seeing the Pleebo/King connection. I have no idea what was trying to be conveyed there.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 23:01:18  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I still am not seeing the Pleebo/King connection. I have no idea what was trying to be conveyed there.
Give it time, but then you still probably won't see it.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-01-31 23:08:07  
Jetackuu said: »
Give it time, but then you still probably won't see it.
^ What is Jet's favorite thing to say in the bedroom?

Next I'll take "Potent Potables" for $100, Alex.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-01-31 23:11:08  
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-31 23:14:55  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Give it time, but then you still probably won't see it.
^ What is Jet's favorite thing to say in the bedroom?

Next I'll take "Potent Potables" for $100, Alex.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-01 01:52:54  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Related, I guess: New Pew Research Center surveys of citizens and a representative sample of scientists connected to the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) show powerful crosscurrents that both recognize the achievements of scientists and expose stark fissures between scientists and citizens on a range of science, engineering and technology issues.
Hmm.. Pew Research, sounds religious to me.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-01 12:01:22  
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Serbia has granted citizenship to a key political rival of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas after he pledged millions of dollars in investments from the Emirates, where he has lived in exile, Serbian officials said Sunday.

Serbia's Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said that former Fatah party strongman Mohammed Dahlan, whom Abbas fired in a power struggle, was given the citizenship in 2013. His wife, four children, a relative and five Palestinian supporters were also given Serbian passports.

The 53-year-old Dahlan, a former Abbas' aide and Gaza security chief, was once seen as Yasser Arafat's heir apparent. He was kicked out of Fatah in 2011 after Abbas accused him of corruption and hinted he may have been involved in Arafat's death.

Dahlan was sentenced in absentia by a West Bank court to two years jail in 2014 on defamation and slander charges because he alleged in an interview that Palestinian security forces help protect Israeli settlers in the occupied territories.

Dahlan later said in a statement that the ruling was politically motivated and was meant to block him from competing in internal elections in Abbas' Fatah movement and in future general elections.

Dahlan, who turned into a businessman in exile, has promised millions of dollars of investments from the Emirates to Serbia. The Balkan country's government can secretly grant citizenships to foreigners when it sees the individuals can serve special state interests.

Dacic said that Dahlan was not given the citizenship on political grounds, but due to the economic relations with the Emirates.

"When Dahlan was in Serbia, we spoke only about relations with the United Arab Emirates," Dacic said. "Internal Palestinian issues were not on the agenda."

In December, thousands of Dahlan supporters protested against Abbas in the Gaza Strip amid reports that corruption charges involving millions of dollars will be filed against the former security chief.
Serbia grants citizenship to main rival of Palestine leader
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By Blazed1979 2015-02-01 14:47:52  

Native American Council Offers Amnesty to 240 Million Undocumented Whites


Haha!!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-01 16:48:18  
Blazed1979 said: »

Native American Council Offers Amnesty to 240 Million Undocumented Whites


Haha!!
From the same editors who also publishes The Onion.

I supposed the onion is a legitimate news source for you too, huh?
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-01 16:51:39  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
From the same editors who also publishes The Onion.
This joke is also older than time itself. I've seen this particular variation on the theme at least half a dozen times in the past 10 years.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-01 16:52:40  
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
From the same editors who also publishes The Onion.
This joke is also older than time itself. I've seen this particular variation on the theme at least half a dozen times in the past 10 years.
Problem is, blazed didn't realize it and posted it as "news"
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By Jetackuu 2015-02-01 17:02:11  
Gotta love "The Onion."
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-01 17:42:35  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
From the same editors who also publishes The Onion.
This joke is also older than time itself. I've seen this particular variation on the theme at least half a dozen times in the past 10 years.
Problem is, blazed didn't realize it and posted it as "news"
I know. And I'd've mocked him for it but the little wimp blacklisted me.

It's funny, I've largely been trying to stay civil and use language appropriate to what I mean rather than what I feel and I've managed to score at least three blacklist entries in the past few weeks. It's very telling.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-01 17:49:59  
I think he blacklisted most people on threads that disagree with him. Which shows how open-minded he is, and how sad his opinions are....
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By Altimaomega 2015-02-01 18:29:21  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I think he blacklisted most people on threads that disagree with him. Which shows how open-minded he is, and how sad his opinions are....

I only have one person on this forum Blacklisted, but being as you seem to share a lot of my opinions.. I'm confused.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-02-01 18:31:03  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I think he blacklisted most people on threads that disagree with him. Which shows how open-minded he is, and how sad his opinions are....

I only have one person on this forum Blacklisted, but being as you seem to share a lot of my opinions.. I'm confused.
We were talking about Blazed, not you.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2015-02-01 18:33:21  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I think he blacklisted most people on threads that disagree with him. Which shows how open-minded he is, and how sad his opinions are....

I only have one person on this forum Blacklisted, but being as you seem to share a lot of my opinions.. I'm confused.
LMAO

Way to over-play your hand there, buddy. Got a guilty conscience?
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By Altimaomega 2015-02-01 18:33:53  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I think he blacklisted most people on threads that disagree with him. Which shows how open-minded he is, and how sad his opinions are....

I only have one person on this forum Blacklisted, but being as you seem to share a lot of my opinions.. I'm confused.
We were talking about Blazed, not you.

lol.. I just realized the person I have blacklisted is the person you are talking too.. /laugh
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-02-02 01:55:48  
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After half a decade of growing ever sleepier, the currency market has started the year with its most volatile period since 2011. As the victims of the Swiss franc detonation lick their wounds, Denmark is battling to avoid its krone becoming the next victim of the global currency wars, wielding a combination of negative interest rates plus market interventions to sell its own currency plus scrapping government bond sales as it defends its peg to the euro. I've seen this movie before; it never ends well.
Currency War Claims Another Casualty: Denmark
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By Altimaomega 2015-02-02 02:39:02  
Clearly the child needs to be expelled.. Being a racist terrorist that drew a picture of a pregnant woman and all.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/2/1/7960307/fourth-grader-suspended-lord-of-the-rings

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A fourth-grader in west Texas has been suspended, his father says, because he pretended to have a ring like the One Ring from The Lord of the Rings canon, and said it could make a classmate disappear.

This isn't his son's first scrape with authority; the boy has been suspended three times already, once for calling a black classmate black, the other for bringing a book to school that had a drawing of a pregnant woman. The family moved to the school district six months ago.

Suspended for all these thing! Why exactly do parents put up with this?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-02-02 02:51:43  
Pfft, I know I would've expelled him. Can't have ringwraiths just barging into the school all willy-nilly.

Edit: I was having trouble finding a good ringwraith pic, so this picture of the local schoolboard will have to do:
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