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Random Politics & Religion #00
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:13:52
I was listening to it on the radio as it was happening. The news guy said people were bloody and several went limp. I'm assuming that meant knocked out.
Good luck trying to find a news source after the fact that isn't biased one way or the other.
Sounds like a saturday night at any given seedy bar.
Not endorsing violence or disruptive behavior on any account, but certainly doesn't seem as awful as most seem to be implying.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-13 15:15:05
Are there any articles out there that are relatively neutral and objective in reports of the protests in Chicago? It seems both sides have the truth skewed and stretched to fit their perspective.
Best I got was seeing people on the news freaking out, while /r/Chicago saying it was not even that big a deal and not even remotely close to the "riot" news anchors and journalists seemed to imply. I would check the Chicago tribune and any alt weeklies they have.
Last I saw 2 cops and 3 others hurt. No idea what or how severe the injuries are nor which side the civilians were on. Sounds like a black Friday sale level of riot.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:15:32
Black Friday Lives Matter.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:15:40
Considering that a rally should be safe for the entire family and not a seedy bar scene, it is kinda awful.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:18:20
When you incite division and feed people's anger with such emphasis, you kinda should expect to reap what you sow.
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:18:55
Considering that a rally should be safe for the entire family and not a seedy bar scene, it is kinda awful.
Not saying it isn't a terrible thing that happened, just simply that actuality is far misaligned from what's being reported.
Big name news love their false hype and overblown exaggeration; we all know this.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-03-13 15:18:59
Black Friday Lives Matter. finally someone who understands the ridiculousness of #blacklivesmatter
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2016-03-13 15:20:37
Quote: Last I saw 2 cops and 3 others hurt. No idea what or how severe the injuries are nor which side the civilians were on. Sounds like a black Friday sale level of riot.
LeSean McCoy went to another bar ?
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:21:16
When you incite division and feed people's anger with such emphasis, you kinda should expect to reap what you sow.
More excuses for the left to act out in anger. I don't remember this happening when Obama was doing the exact same thing.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:24:20
Obama was doing the exact same thing. Lol.
Did he alienate an entire ethnicity?
Build a wall along Canada?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:25:59
Trump's words feed hate on both sides. It's detrimental for everyone.
Expect that to keep happening around him. He creates it.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:26:12
It was Mexicans that started this fight? Otherwise /yawn
Trump's Obama's words feed hate on both sides. It's detrimental for everyone.
Easy.
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:26:18
When you incite division and feed people's anger with such emphasis, you kinda should expect to reap what you sow.
You're not wrong, but I still think being violent and disruptive at an opposition rally is a pretty shitty thing to do. Regardless of what garbage flows out of Trump's mouth, it in no way warrants being rude or throwing fists. (Mind you this applies to both sides)
Elections should be a battle of wits, and fighting each others with ideas rather than a physical version of an internet argument.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:28:52
You're not wrong, but I still think being violent and disruptive at an opposition rally is a pretty shitty thing to do. Regardless of what garbage flows out of Trump's mouth, it in no way warrants being rude or throwing fists I'm possibly the most pacifist poster here, don't need to tell me that.
It was Mexicans that started this fight? Otherwise /yawn
Trump's Obama's words feed hate on both sides. It's detrimental for everyone.
Easy. What the *** lol.
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:30:36
I say that mostly because Trump is playing a game with both his supporters and opponents. He feeds off both unconditional support from his followers and the vitriol of his opposition. He appeals to emotion rather than logic or reason, and to play that game against him would be like throwing water on an oil fire.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-13 15:34:31
A few articles on the protest, Trump, and Sanders.
Inside the Protest That Stopped the Trump Rally
The plan worked better than they'd ever imagined. Then the trouble began.
Politico. The writer was with the protesters to cover the protest. So on the floor eyewitness. I saw no bias as far as I read.
Trump: Sanders is responsible for violence
Politico.
Trump threatens to set supporters on Sanders' rallies
CBSnews
This is how it started in Germany. Organized violence at political rallies, then setting thugs on political opponents.
I wonder what color shirts Trump's "supporters" will wear. Brown is out of fashion.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:34:54
Elections should be a battle of wits If only.
I'd be all for there to be a requirement to take intelligence, culture and sanity tests for anyone who wanna pursue a political career. I'm fully on board with Plato and philosophers of enlightment as in a government should be made of only individuals of higher mind.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:36:55
You're not wrong, but I still think being violent and disruptive at an opposition rally is a pretty shitty thing to do. Regardless of what garbage flows out of Trump's mouth, it in no way warrants being rude or throwing fists I'm possibly the most pacifist poster here, don't need to tell me that.
It was Mexicans that started this fight? Otherwise /yawn
Trump's Obama's words feed hate on both sides. It's detrimental for everyone.
Easy. What the *** lol.
You either choose not to see the similarity or don't understand it.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:38:25
I wonder what color shirts Trump's "supporters" will wear. Brown is out of fashion.
American flag T-shirts with Bald Eagles sitting on an AR-15.
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By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:39:24
I have to laugh at how Trump was adamant about arresting protesters, similar to how he constantly threatens to sue those who speak ill of him, only to chicken out of actually doing anything shortly thereafter.
But what's most frightening is his idea of essentially snuffing out any opposition or protest in the first place, only to suggest doing it himself? I mean, what in the actual ***? Either everyone is entitled to protest or nobody is; you can't have it both ways.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:41:03
This is stuff that happens consistently with nationalists all over the world.
It's good that people don't stand for that, although that shouldn't be the way.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:42:29
Could you give your definition of nationalist because I don't think it means he same thing over here.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:43:36
In short xenophobes.
Salvini, Petry, LePen...don't remember the names of the others, but yeah.
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:43:59
Elections should be a battle of wits If only.
I'd be all for there to be a requirement to take intelligence, culture and sanity tests for anyone who wanna pursue a political career. I'm fully on board with Plato and philosophers of enlightment as in a government should be made of only individuals of higher mind.
It was wishful thinking. Sadly the majority will appeal to emotion far more than they will to intelligence or open-mindedness.
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By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:45:35
Ah, so you're wrong. Not surprised.
By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:45:41
Could you give your definition of nationalist because I don't think it means he same thing over here.
Chauvinism to be blunt. That's the short and long of it.
I'm not saying don't be patriotic, but extending it far beyond it's purpose is *** dangerous and scary as hell.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:49:09
Ayyyyy vote nationalist parties, who wouldn't love a HD WW1 remake?!
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By Artemicion 2016-03-13 15:50:51
Ayyyyy vote nationalist parties, who wouldn't love a HD WW1 remake?!
As long as they get the sandwich of fate textures down right.
Disheartened assassination attempts can only be remedied by a delicious, high-definition sandwich. And of course good intentions with an ill-informed chauffeur.
By Altimaomega 2016-03-13 15:51:29
Yeah, because America started both world wars. smh
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-13 15:52:43
Yeah, because America started both world wars. smh Said no one ever.
The topic was nationalists everywhere.
In short xenophobes.
Salvini, Petry, LePen...don't remember the names of the others, but yeah.
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