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 Sylph.Jeanpaul
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-03-02 16:22:26  
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Nobody expected Sanders to do well in the southern states, though he did take Oklahoma. Massachusetts is the state that best indicates his overall condition, since it's incredibly torn between Bernie and Hillary. Seems to be having a good head start in Minnesota and Colorado. He's definitely not stopping anytime soon.
This seems to be the general consensus of Bernie supporters. They don't expect him to win Latino or black voters. Is this going to be his excuse for California and New York? Early on Sander's acolytes were comparing him to Obama. I don't recall Obama having these problems with minority voters.

The reality is setting in that Bernie appeals primarily to liberal white voters. That appeal isnt going to win a general election nor a the Democrat nomination.

At this point he's simply trying to split the Democratic party.
Well, NY is a likely loss for Bernie considering Clinton was senator there. He basically has til next big primaries to do something about his lack of minority support, especially for CA. I don't agree that he's trying to split the party, though. The divides are really just with outspoken stupid supporters, and largely there is a great deal of common ground between Hillary and Bernie's positions. If anything, it's forcing Hillary to change to more liberal positions (like with the Trans-Pacific Partnership) in order to keep from sounding conservative.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-03-02 16:41:58  
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By Odin.Slore 2016-03-02 16:58:01  
Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
Nobody expected Sanders to do well in the southern states, though he did take Oklahoma. Massachusetts is the state that best indicates his overall condition, since it's incredibly torn between Bernie and Hillary. Seems to be having a good head start in Minnesota and Colorado. He's definitely not stopping anytime soon.
This seems to be the general consensus of Bernie supporters. They don't expect him to win Latino or black voters. Is this going to be his excuse for California and New York? Early on Sander's acolytes were comparing him to Obama. I don't recall Obama having these problems with minority voters.

The reality is setting in that Bernie appeals primarily to liberal white voters. That appeal isnt going to win a general election nor a the Democrat nomination.

At this point he's simply trying to split the Democratic party.
Well, NY is a likely loss for Bernie considering Clinton was senator there. He basically has til next big primaries to do something about his lack of minority support, especially for CA. I don't agree that he's trying to split the party, though. The divides are really just with outspoken stupid supporters, and largely there is a great deal of common ground between Hillary and Bernie's positions. If anything, it's forcing Hillary to change to more liberal positions (like with the Trans-Pacific Partnership) in order to keep from sounding conservative.

You would be surprised, she was not well liked here at all. NY also has a ton of colleges, which generally support Sanders.

But anyways: Trump2016!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-03-02 17:15:54  
Ben Carson withdraws from GOP debate but stops short of suspending campaign

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Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson announced Wednesday that he sees no “political path forward” after his Super Tuesday losses -- and will not attend the upcoming Fox News debate.

The retired neurosurgeon did not officially suspend his campaign, saying he’ll discuss the “future of this movement” during a speech Friday at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

But he made clear he’s stepping to the side as the four other Republican candidates continue to wage a battle for the GOP nomination.

“I have decided not to attend the Fox News GOP Presidential Debate tomorrow night in Detroit,” he said in a statement Wednesday. “Even though I will not be in my hometown of Detroit on Thursday, I remain deeply committed to my home nation, America. I do not see a political path forward in light of last evening’s Super Tuesday primary results.

Kind of strange, don't know why he is waiting to drop out of the race...
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-03-02 17:20:39  
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You would be surprised, she was not well liked here at all. NY also has a ton of colleges, which generally support Sanders.
I didn't pay attention to her much as senator, are you talking about in general, or specifically even the liberals in NY don't care for her much?
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By fonewear 2016-03-02 17:52:27  
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Huff Post has more credibility than NY daily news.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-02 17:58:15  
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Huff Post has more credibility than NY daily news.
But no one else has half the class of the NYDN.

Not saying what kind of class, I am sure all here understand.
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2016-03-02 18:31:47  
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By Altimaomega 2016-03-02 19:19:46  
Socialist Monopoly anyone?



Unlimited get out of jail free cards!
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By Enuyasha 2016-03-02 19:27:23  
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Socialist Monopoly anyone?



Unlimited get out of jail free cards!
Im very interested on how a game based in capitalism would do with communism and socialism.

Im sure most players would adapt to the rules of the game to try to be the least wealthy player and most players would avoid being above the median wealth, as youd also be giving up resources and certainly noone would want to be the wealthiest (Which is just the antithesis of the game of venture capitalism [which also surprisingly, is why someone would *** so loud about implementing socialism in a largely capitalist run country...]). Of course, this isnt really how socialism or communism works: but hey, its in a facebook infographic it must be true.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-03-02 19:28:35  
I was expecting a unique monopoly board, do better next time.
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By Bahamut.Baconwrap 2016-03-02 19:31:00  
Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
He basically has til next big primaries to do something about his lack of minority support, especially for CA.
Sanders is pretty much screwed when it comes to minority support. Especially with Sierra Blanca on his record.
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By Altimaomega 2016-03-02 19:34:56  
Enuyasha said: »
Of course, this isnt really how socialism or communism works: but hey, its in a facebook infographic it must be true.

You didn't know everything on the internet is true? Don't have a sense of humor or anything....


Shiva.Viciousss said: »
I was expecting a unique monopoly board, do better next time.
You may be onto something. Going to call Parker Bros tomorrow.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-02 19:43:53  
NO! Don't call Parker Bros untill you have the board layout and the rules finalized.

Really. Not being snarky.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-02 20:00:02  
And the biggest looser from super tuesday seems to be Chris Christe.

The backlash against Chris Christie
CNN

You should really folow this to the source beacuse the are SO MANY links.

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Washington (CNN)They're calling Chris Christie "an embarrassment."

An "utter disgrace."

And they're calling for the New Jersey governor -- Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's most high-profile supporter -- to step down.

As Trump swept through Super Tuesday primaries, taking seven states and boasting that he will unify a Republican Party upended by his candidacy, Christie was reaping ridicule for his decision to support the real estate developer-turned-political force.

Even before his positioning behind Trump during his victory speech spawned the hashtag #FreeChrisChristie, his endorsement drew a slew of irate hometown newspaper editorials that ran Tuesday.

"We're fed up with his opportunism, we're fed up with his hypocrisy," wrote six Gannett-owned newspapers, including the Asbury Park Press, the Cherry Hill Courier-Post and the Morristown Daily Record, in a joint editorial asking for Christie to quit or be recalled.

"We're disgusted with his endorsement of Donald Trump after he spent months on the campaign trail trashing him, calling him unqualified by temperament and experience to be president," they wrote.

A Washington Post opinion writer said that Christie, once beloved as a straight-talker who got things done, had ruined his reputation. The New Hampshire Union-Leader declared that they'd been wrong to endorse him for the GOP presidential nomination. "Rather than standing up to the bully, Christie bent on his knee," the New Hampshire-based paper wrote. ....
And SO MUCH more. Not inserting all the links.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-03-02 20:28:11  
His popularity numbers are plummeting, at this point, I don't know how he is going to stay in office. I was shocked to see him on stage with Trump last night, I guess I missed his endorsement.
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By Altimaomega 2016-03-02 20:28:41  
Not news, Christie has always been like this. The simple fact that people are surprised just goes to show how little they pay attention in the first place.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-03-02 20:39:55  
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I think Canada is an amazing country.

an amazing country to poop on
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-02 20:43:38  
Christe found a bigger bully than he is.

Therefore on his knees and sucking with tounge action.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-03-02 20:44:43  
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Christe found a bigger bully than he is.

Therefore on his knees and sucking with tounge action.

His name is Reek.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-03-02 20:50:42  
It's just sour grapes cry baby Democrats that have been trying to get Chris Christie removed from office since the day he was elected. Yes, the anti-wall street Democratic party angry at Chris Christie who defeated former Democratic governor and Wall Street felon, CEO of Goldman Sachs, Jon Corzine.

How many recalls and calls for resignations have we seen since 2010 from Democrats? They don't want Democracy at all. They despise it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-03-02 20:52:54  
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His name is Reek.
I do not catch the reference Ama. Link it please.

If it is unsafe for GA in a private MGS please.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-03-02 20:56:49  
It's a Game of Thrones reference to an emasculated servant boy.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-03-02 21:43:03  
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Salmon caught near Seattle proven to be inundated with antidepressants, cocaine and more

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/053163_salmon_Puget_Sound_drug_contamination.html#ixzz41o8iFF8m
Does this mean people will start smoking their salmon?
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By Altimaomega 2016-03-02 22:13:34  
Been going on for quite awhile, fish are extremely good at filtering out the water they live in.
This is why you drink water from your own well and eat food that you know where it came from.

Everyone *** about corporations dumping crap in the environment. Everyday people do it and don't even realize.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-03-02 22:32:05  
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Salmon caught near Seattle proven to be inundated with antidepressants, cocaine and more
Wow.

Salmon know how to party.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2016-03-03 01:46:32  
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It's just sour grapes cry baby Democrats that have been trying to get Chris Christie removed from office since the day he was elected. Yes, the anti-wall street Democratic party angry at Chris Christie who defeated former Democratic governor and Wall Street felon, CEO of Goldman Sachs, Jon Corzine.

How many recalls and calls for resignations have we seen since 2010 from Democrats? They don't want Democracy at all. They despise it.
Were Republicans also sour grapes cry babies when they wanted Christie's head after he thanked Obama for the federal assistance after they got hit by Hurricane *forgot which name*?
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2016-03-03 03:25:55  
Altimaomega said: »
Socialist Monopoly anyone?


sadly, there are indeed people who are believing this nonsense....
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-03-03 08:51:51  
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Best part about this election so far is watching the Establishment GOP crap themselves over and over.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-03-03 08:55:49  
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It doesn't matter if sanders wins the popular vote in the rest of the remaining states, Hillary has enough super delegates to push her over the finish line.

Sorry Bernie fans, but hey, it's better that you learn the democratic party doesn't give a ***about you sooner rather than later.
She held the superdelegates in early 2008, but they shifted towards Obama as he began to edge her out in a number of states. It was pretty close throughout the whole run, with Obama losing big in certain key states like NY, CA, and FL, but having a large number of smaller victories that carried him.

In Bernie's case, his major losses were all in southern states, where he can't compete well. In other states (not counting Vermont), his losses with with much smaller margins (5% was the largest in Nevada) compared to Hillary's losses (18% was the smallest in Colorado). Consider that the southern states are largely red states anyway; if Bernie wasn't competitive in blue and swing states, then he'd be done. Yet, he still has plenty of funding and enough major states coming up.

It's probably not going to be settled until June 7th when California has their primary. Until then, it's an uphill battle against the macaroni and cheese monster that chairs the DNC.

While you may be right on the mechanism of super delegates, you're just in denial if you think the powers at be will allow it. Look how hard the republican establishment is trying to stop the outsider.

Bernie is no Trump.
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