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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 10:34:11  
It's almost like Americas global trade network is a means of not only facilitating good relations with foreign powers but also maintaining economic diplomacy with nations as a means of power projection and a means of shedding cost overseas to benefit consumers at home!

I mean, it's not like nations wouldn't take being economically cut off as an insult or anything, worsening diplomacy and ultimately resulting in negative impact both as unipolar superpower and our efforts against islamic fundies overseas!
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 10:37:15  
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America is just a cog in the machine that is the global economy, a rather large cog, but still interdependent.

You can continue to be as ignorant as you want and think America is the center of the universe or you could come back down to reality.

Hate to call out your ignorance here because when I use that word I get banned. However, you take Americas cog out of the picture and the entire world comes to a screeching halt and pirates literally take over the sea.

Nothing the rest of the world offers cannot be made in America.
It's not my ignorance that you're seeing it's your nationalism that's blinding you... Plus you don't really seem to understand anything beyond what happens to you... if you took a look outside your own doorstep you'd see that.

while it's potentially true that we have enough resources to produce everything we need how do you think it would effect our own market if we completely pulled out of every other one? Wait I shouldn't ask you that because you'd probably just spout the equivalent of America *** yeah. Think about why we are already so invested in other markets.

Watch what happens to the markets when there are uncertainties elsewhere. Look outside your window.

Nothing wrong with Nationalism, especially American Nationalism.
I'm not the one with the problem of not understanding anything that only happens around me. You need to think bigger than just pulling out of markets overseas.

Also, uncertainties in the markets would go away when America is producing its own things again! No control of overseas production is why uncertainties even exist!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 10:39:50  
The 17-18th century called. They want their mercantilism back.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 10:42:49  
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Nothing the rest of the world offers cannot be made in America.

America offers something the rest of the world cannot make?
I figured you would read that wrong.

I didn't read it wrong, you believe the worldwide economy would crumble if America cut all trades, which is actually right but you probably don't understand the reason why.

If the rest of the world cuts all trade with America, America's economy will crumble.

Not if you do it right. But please explain to me why you think I don't understand the reason why.
 
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 10:47:10  
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Also, uncertainties in the markets would go away when America is producing its own things again!

The biggest certainty in that scenario is things becoming really expensive.

Care explaining your fallacy?
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-02-29 10:55:59  
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Also, uncertainties in the markets would go away when America is producing its own things again!

The biggest certainty in that scenario is things becoming really expensive.

only if we rely on people doing the actual work...

once we replace all the people with robots we can move the factories wherever we get the best tax breaks...
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 11:07:26  
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It's common sense, you pay people less and materials cheaper in other countries, unless you believe businesses will take the loss or cut in their profits, then you really believe in fairy tales.

Ah, I see. So it is okay to pay people overseas less but here in America we need to have a 15 dollar minimum wage, and when people flat out don't have a job because people overseas are doing it for less money, it is perfectly Okay to have the working class and rich pay for them. Because Those greedy corporations sent all the jobs overseas to profit off the backs of slave labor!

I forgot about the hypocrisy on this site for a page, my bad.

Also, just for arguments sake. Lets say that with lower taxes, fewer regulations and production back in the States the cost of everything does not get more expensive and more people have jobs and our economy booms. You want to present an actual argument why that wouldn't happen other than blatant hypocrisy?
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-29 11:17:37  
TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

let's make america win again in 2016!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-02-29 11:19:40  
With Trump in power USA will also win the World Cup in Russia in 2018!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 11:22:46  
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TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

let's make america win again in 2016!

I too think Charlie Sheen would be a better POTUS than Trump.
 
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-29 11:32:45  
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I too think Charlie Sheen would be a better POTUS than Trump.

we're looking at him for VP.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-02-29 11:33:38  
I feel it's time to remind you guys again the list of people who are saying they'll run for president in 2020 and are serious about it:

Kanye West
Lindsay Lohan
H. Clinton again
That idiot who sent an angsty letter to Iran government during diplomatic talk
Some hippie old man
Lordgrim
..and more!

Trump is not even America's final form!

edit: there's also Katy Perry, but she was most obviously joking unlike these other guys..
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 11:35:08  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I feel it's time to remind you guys again the list of people who are saying they'll run for president in 2020 and are serious about it:

Kanye West
Lindsay Lohan
H. Clinton again
That idiot who sent an angsty letter to Iran government during diplomatic talk
Some hippie old man
Lordgrim
..and more!

Trump is not even America's final form!

Ted Cruz is. And his presidency leads directly to the events of Fallout 4... or the Purge.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-02-29 11:39:23  
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With Trump in power USA will also win the World Cup in Russia in 2018!

we're american, no one gives a ***about soccer.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 11:40:59  
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With Trump in power USA will also win the World Cup in Russia in 2018!

we're american, no one gives a ***about soccer.

Worse, we care about baseball. America's oldest sleep aid.
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 11:41:15  
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Did I ever say it's ok for people being paid cents or a few dollars daily in other countries?

No, you never "say" anything. You insinuate a lot..

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It's certainly not ok, far from it, but that's how things are right now. It's a bubble that is bound to burst eventually especially with the industrialization of China.
Screw trying to change it for the better! Let's just stomp our feet and make hypocritical statements!

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That's a fairy tale, no matter how you manipulate taxes and "regulations", it's not going to offset having to pay a large portion of your work force 100x more.
100x more huh.. Who's living in a fairy tale now?
Any time you do actually say something it is completely invalid and makes zero sense. You should go back to insinuating.
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-02-29 12:00:03  
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Worse, we care about baseball. America's oldest sleep aid.

lrn2america
our oldest sleep aid is alcohol!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 12:00:52  
If we really wanted to, we could wipe out hundreds of thousands of jobs *right now*. Think of how many customer service, fast food and low tier entry-level jobs could be eliminated through mechanization. Do you really need someone in a cell phone store to aid you paying a bill?

Once we're all accustomed to using smartphones and the boomers embrace the reaper those jobs could be safely eliminated. Check your own groceries out while you're at it. Lazy bum.

Then think of how many middle tier, management jobs could also be gutted and that's the future. But lets keep talking about bringing back ineffectual manufacturing in the vein of the 30s-50s. I think we kinda like having all the pollution in China so we can die of heart disease instead of drinking contaminated water. Oh wait...

Cottage industries, high tech manufacturing, maintenance is the future.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-02-29 12:04:58  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Worse, we care about baseball. America's oldest sleep aid.

lrn2america
our oldest sleep aid is alcohol!

$16 Heinekens and Bud Lights will definitely put your wallet to sleep.
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By fonewear 2016-02-29 13:04:31  
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Worse, we care about baseball. America's oldest sleep aid.

lrn2america
our oldest sleep aid is alcohol!

$16 Heinekens and Bud Lights will definitely put your wallet to sleep.

Bud Light is like a $2.50 drink. And I wouldn't drink it even at that price.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-02-29 13:18:10  
fonewear said: »
Bud Light
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Bud Light

I said alcohol not piss. george washington made whiskey, which may or may not have contributed to his inability to lie...

/drunk lush voice

shhhhure I chopped teh cherrytree down... whatsittoya!?
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By Asura.Failaras 2016-02-29 13:44:23  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I feel it's time to remind you guys again the list of people who are saying they'll run for president in 2020 and are serious about it:

Kanye West
Lindsay Lohan
H. Clinton again
That idiot who sent an angsty letter to Iran government during diplomatic talk
Some hippie old man
Lordgrim
..and more!

Trump is not even America's final form!

edit: there's also Katy Perry, but she was most obviously joking unlike these other guys..
I'd be down for this. Him and Trump basically have the same ego level except Kanye actually makes good things.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-02-29 14:17:43  
Kanye could never win, if only cause he got all of Taylor Swift fans against him. That has to count at least for 30% of the voterbase!!
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By Altimaomega 2016-02-29 14:18:58  
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Make america great again, pay employees 300$ per month. If you couldnt figure out the 100x more was just to point out they are severly underpaid you are really dense.

You act like you can't figure out obvious things I say, so why would you expect me to return the favor?

Realistically you deal in inflated/deflated fairy tale numbers so you don't have to actually think of other alternatives. Thanks for the personal insult though, more proof I am right.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-29 14:32:19  
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Kanye could never win, if only cause he got all of Taylor Swift fans against him. That has to count at least for 30% of the voterbase!!

There's no way he could win. America's voting base isn't that stupid. They clearly have high enough standards to -

Okay, yeah, but who actually pays attention to him and that brain dead wife of his, it's not like -
Well, okay, but... frick.
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