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 Valefor.Endoq
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-02-10 15:50:33  
Josiahkf said: »
akin to the "you're racist towards racists" argument, this is the mootest moot to ever moot.
"prejudiced against racist" would be more accurate and sounds less HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 15:53:31  
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Are you discounting yourself again?
Yet I'm not here arguing for discriminatory treatment of Muslims based on nothing but pants-wetting fear. Your misdirection is transparent and tiresome.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 15:57:54  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Are you discounting yourself again?
Yet I'm not here arguing for discriminatory treatment of Muslims based on nothing but pants-wetting fear. Your misdirection is transparent and tiresome.
No, instead you are arguing that you are not bigoted at all, while claiming that you are only "bigoted against the bigots."

Not only are you a bigot, but also a hypocrite.

But go ahead and keep trying to tie me with discrimination towards Muslims.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-02-10 15:58:36  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Are you discounting yourself again?
Yet I'm not here arguing for discriminatory treatment of Muslims based on nothing but pants-wetting fear. Your misdirection is transparent and tiresome.

Just Christians who wish to decide who's weddings they want to service...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 15:59:05  
Bigoted against whom exactly?
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Just Christians who wish to decide who's weddings they want to service..
Figured that's where this was going. There's no moral dilemma in not tolerating intolerance. If you want to violate anti-discrimination regulations, then enjoy your fines or loss of license.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 15:59:40  
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
How do you stop Muslism immigration?
You don't, and you are stupid to try.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 16:00:58  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bigoted against whom exactly?
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I'm bigoted against bigots. It's like a double negative. They cancel out.
You just said that. Even if you are being factious, this isn't the first time you stated such rhetoric....
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-02-10 16:01:13  
Josiahkf said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Josiahkf said: »
akin to the "you're racist towards racists" argument, this is the mootest moot to ever moot.
"prejudiced against racist" would be more accurate and sounds less HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Didn't create the quote I used, just referenced it.

you understood my point just fine about how moot the argument is.
I wasn't correcting you and I know of the phrase already...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 16:01:41  
Josiahkf said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said:
Many here have tried to teach you how to drive, but you deliberately jerk the wheel and flip the bus over and over.
These people don't get your beaten to death jokes nerd! they don't lurk our other ***lol
Calm down there Canadian.

Don't...flip the bus on me.

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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 16:02:41  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bigoted against whom exactly?
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I'm bigoted against bigots. It's like a double negative. They cancel out.
You just said that. Even if you are being factious, this isn't the first time you stated such rhetoric....
See my last post
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-02-10 16:03:07  
Here in PnR everything you say can and WILL be used against you.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 16:29:13  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Bigoted against whom exactly?
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
I'm bigoted against bigots. It's like a double negative. They cancel out.
You just said that. Even if you are being factious, this isn't the first time you stated such rhetoric....
See my last post
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
There's no moral dilemma in not tolerating intolerance.
So, it's not ok to be a bigot, except against certain people you don't like.

That totally doesn't make you a bigot~
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2016-02-10 16:38:12  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I wouldn't.

Then again, my support to whoever is the Republican nominee will be limited to just my vote. Not giving out any money to anyone this election.

Gave some to Romney last time, was disappointed in the results.
Yeah I gave to Paul and well, there goes that money.
You can't give to any candidate anymore. You aren't a citizen.

Unless you are a dual-citizen. Then why the *** haven't you revoked your US citizenship yet? You know you will get taxed out of all of your earnings until you do.

Better to pay the 5% exit tax than being taxed on non-US income.
I'm still legally a U.S. citizen and carry a passport that includes all the rights associated with it.

I retain U.S. citizenship just because it is easier and haven't come across a need to change it and pick up citizenship elsewhere. There's a lot of stuff involved and having a valid social security number is helpful for certain financial reasons.

If and when the time comes I'm prepared, but it's still a pain in the *** to switch everything over and obtain citizenship elsewhere. Also what happens if Trump actually makes America great again and makes it worth moving back? That's always a possibility.

As far as taxes go, they don't concern me. There are Chinese people (in Texas) that take care of that stuff for me.

For now I'm nationality-fluid.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-02-10 16:41:05  
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There are Chinese people (in Texas) that take care of that stuff for me.
Tell them to stop keep buying my pecans.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-02-10 16:45:02  
If you don't consider someones race, you are inconsiderate.
If you do consider someones ethnicity, you are a racist.
If your racism is motivated by hatred, you are a bigot.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 16:45:38  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
certain people you don't like.
Why I dislike them is important. Stop trying to equivocate this. The proliferation of intolerance is not conducive to a healthy, free society. It has to be called out and stopped at some point. You said yourself it's ridiculous to stop Muslim immigration. You don't also think it's just wrong?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-02-10 16:49:13  
Well it looks like Christie and Fiorina have dropped out, I think Christie was running out of money, Fiorina was dead in the water.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-10 16:54:22  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
The proliferation of intolerance is not conducive to a healthy, free society.

And who decides what "intolerance" means? Double standards are everywhere, but clearly only some kinds of intolerance are worth mentioning. Priority is decided by political expedience, of course.

And beyond that, what do you plan to do about intolerance? Force others to be tolerant? No, you can't do that. Ridicule the intolerant to a point where they hate you and become even more intolerant of whatever groups you belong to? Sounds like a winning idea!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2016-02-10 16:54:31  
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Fiorina have dropped out
I heard about Christie earlier, but not her. Seems about right though, her campaign was getting desperate. That whole anti-abortion presentation for little kids was ridiculous.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 17:09:37  
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
The proliferation of intolerance is not conducive to a healthy, free society.

And who decides what "intolerance" means? Double standards are everywhere, but clearly only some kinds of intolerance are worth mentioning. Priority is decided by political expedience, of course.

And beyond that, what do you plan to do about intolerance? Force others to be tolerant? No, you can't do that. Ridicule the intolerant to a point where they hate you and become even more intolerant of whatever groups you belong to? Sounds like a winning idea!
In this case, it's remarkably clear what it means. The plan is to not allow intolerance to be codified into law. Sorry if that rustles jimmies. Ridicule is just icing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-10 17:58:08  
Ridicule is just backfiring, you mean.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 18:09:28  
If reason appealed to bigots, they would be extinct.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-10 18:37:04  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If reason appealed to bigots, they would be extinct.

If reason appealed to the people fighting bigots, they'd find a better way to deal with them. Right now it's the closed-minded that fight the closed-minded, the intolerant that fight the intolerant. The party of "love and compassion" is attempting to antagonize the world into being more loving and compassionate. It's a farce.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-02-10 18:46:25  
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Here in PnR everything you say can be misconstrued and WILL be used against you.
Fixed.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-02-10 18:48:09  
Again with the equivocation. I'm not closed-minded for thinking we shouldn't ban all Muslims from entering the country. I'm not intolerant when I argue that businesses shouldn't be able to discriminate against lgbts. J.F. Christ. Those are not the same thing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-02-10 18:57:59  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Again with the equivocation. I'm not closed-minded for thinking we shouldn't ban all Muslims from entering the country. I'm not intolerant when I argue that businesses shouldn't be able to discriminate against lgbts. J.F. Christ. Those are not the same thing.

Dragging the argument into familiar territory isn't helping. There's still the problem of how those things have been fought against in the dumbest ways possible.
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