Random Politics & Religion #00

I'm not sure what lie you are talking about when it comes to Rubio? Cruz however continues to lie about immigration every time he talks about it. Rand Paul accurately pointed it out in the last debate and Cruz had nothing.
According to Cruz, if you are a democrat you support "amnesty."
If you a republican and you support a path to citizenship, you support "amnesty."
If you are a republican not named Ted Cruz and you support legalization but not citizenship, you support "amnesty."
BUT, if you are Ted Cruz, and you support legalization but not citizenship, you OPPOSE "amnesty", but this only applies to Ted Cruz and sometimes Jeff Sessions.
Everyone in Congress not named Ted Cruz or Jeff Sessions supported "amnesty."
Ted Cruz is the only Senator to ever oppose "amnesty."

I can't see voting for anyone I'm in the demographic that doesn't vote !

Show me when he has lied. Actually lied.

dude he is so totally awesome... he was even better than Dennis Kucinich

best politician ever

He is no Jimmy Carter though !

So wait, we are now voting for candidates based on their looks?

Best poster ever:

The unfortunate part is that Romney kotowed to some puppeteer behind the scenes, mentioned "Magic Underwear", and was caught being recorded that the 47% of people who would refuse to vote him into office had no idea what to do with themselves if left unattended (or something to that effect), and when grilled during debates, had no plan or platform to speak of other than "Binders full of women" for work equality.

But again, this is all old news, and similar old news is that he could have won, had he run entirely on the successes and achievements he had as Governor, including his state sponsored "Romneycare" (which Obamacare was modeled after), including a willingness to oversee an effective federal reaching version, that would see the majority of the populace insured at heavily discounted premiums, or completely discounted for those who weren't getting enough, or any coverage at all.

I think he was actually torn between party loyalties, and wanting to speak about what his platforms actually were, many of which would have been similar or in agreement to ones proposed by Obama.

Pretty sure this is Jimmy Carter:

Because she doesn't have the charisma or appeal to energize the liberal youth base and minorities who were enamored with Obama in '08.

Bam was also able to appeal to white voters which all but shored up his base against McCain who was forced to go hard right to keep his base, ultimately losing the middle with such choices as Sarah 'Alaska Guardian' Palin and having birtherism and a general shift right among Republicans double down on top of disapproval with two terms of Bush.

Gang of eight.


You realize that is political bickering at best right?

Clinton already has plenty of those type of remarks.

I thought that was the entire basis of modern voting.

Isn't that how American Idol started the last few seasons? Before it was about voting on the talent, not the looks. Now it's about looks and not talent. Kind of like Election time.

Obama's charisma (and race) are pretty much what won him the presidency both times. Trying to run a doppelganger without those boons is dangerous at best. No wonder Democrats would rather focus on Cruz and Trump. They need the anti-Republican vote far more now that the pro-Democrat vote is handicapped.

Which is Clinton's strategy right there.

The democrat/liberal double downing on top of the disapproval with two terms of Obama.

You think it will work this time?

I don't watch ***shows like American Idol, so I don't know.

This is why you vote for Cruz:

Obamas race won him 2012? Yeah ok.

I'll say this in response:

Mitt Romney simply got caught with his pants down, showing off his "magic underwear" before it happened to Hillary.

I'll also say this: If Romney had run on his successes, like so many Dems and Libs had wanted him to, he would have been the better choice, and most likely won the election.

But at this point...

"What difference does it make?" A World of Difference. like... A Magic Carpet Ride difference.

Bloodrose has an underwear fetish, methinks.

Having lived in MA through Romney's terms and Romneycare, I thought it was an unconscionable mistake to not run completely based on his MA experience.

"I was a Republican governor in one of the bluest states in the country. I got things done and made healthcare affordable in a way that both sides were happy with. I never sold out my principles and still got a lot done with support from both parties."

Like, listening to whoever told him that was a bad plan? That was a bad enough judgment call that he shouldn't have been President after all. Just pants-on-head idiocy.

+10

Like it or not, liberals will turn up for Clinton if Sanders loses. It'll be a deep sigh'd vote for Clinton establishment but Cruz is so toxic there is no way in this life that any liberal could pull the lever for him. Rubio has a better shot of stealing off some moderates but he's yet to take spotlight thanks to Trump.

Cruz is not moderate friendly in his current state and it's unlikely he can make that shift to a moderate candidate the way a Romney tried, despite having to continue playing all the current conservative hot button issues. It's the whole reason Romney looked/acted fake and ultimately got rolled by Obama.

Obama is good at late night TV I think he should take over Colbert.

That the liberal media and lolMittens..

Leave Steppenwolf out of this!

Black Voter Turnout Rate Passes Whites In 2012 Election

Even the Huff Post thinks Romney would have won if the black turnout was close to what it was in 2004.

There's no way he could position himself that way thanks to the way the Republicans have pigeonholed their candidates to leave open the type of void that a Trump comfortably occupy. It's the same reason that Jon Huntsman didn't even get off the starting blocks.

If you seem to be sympathetic towards the other side or work together with liberals then you're DOA. Even Chris Christie would ultimately have to swear away the fact he thanked Obama for Sandy relief and commended the POTUS for a swift response. How many people still hold thats why Romney lost?

That's the current atmosphere right now. It forces otherwise pragmatic candidates to go hard right and waste effort talking about gay rights rather than tear into Democratic candidates on the economic issues.

That's what I was getting at, and the most basic reason he lost the election. And like I also mentioned, I believe he was torn between party loyalty, and running on his successes. Most of Canada was watching with a vested interest in those elections, because it was going to have a huge impact on if Canada was going to follow through and even adopt some of the changes that could make our medical system more efficient.

I do. I like to wear underwear.