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By Siren.Mosin 2016-01-18 09:04:15  
I got drunk, was playing hide and seek with the boy, and missed the debate.

Oops!

I bet it was dull anyway. Is O'Malley still in there?
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 09:06:05  
Martin O Malley is still there but I'm not sure why ? Maybe he has nothing better to do this winter...
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 09:07:29  
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 09:07:59  
The highlights show maybe 2 seconds of Martin O Malley !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-18 10:46:32  
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giving [Iran] all that money and dangerous people was a bad thing....
Dangerous people? You have been listening to Republicans spouting off about something they know nothing about.

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None of the people being released have been charged with terrorism offenses or any violent crime by the U.S. government. Most of the individuals being pardoned have been charged with violating economic sanctions against Iran, not with attempting to kill people or commit acts of violence.

Nima Golestaneh, a 30-year-old Iranian national who will be released, was not even charged with violating sanctions. Golestaneh was being prosecuted for allegedly hacking a Vermont-based engineering and software company to steal business secrets. Another man was convicted of providing satellite consulting services to Iran, which helped the country launch a satellite in 2005.

Three of the men were waiting to be tried for allegedly selling electronics to Iran, which the U.S. government had said could have been used to help the country's nuclear program. The men have said they were selling parts for surge protectors that shield computers from thunderstorms, according to The Washington Post.
HuffPo quoting the Washington Post
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 11:04:06  
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Well, according to the conservative handbook a good president is also able to run a business because a country is a business.

Trump has bankrupted multiple businesses, therefore he is not a good candidate for president.
If you are going to play that game:

According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.

Never mind that his main businesses did not (one did get restructured, but to some people, that's a bankruptcy...).

So, why aren't more liberals supporting Trump? If going by the very few businesses that went bankrupt, he should be the perfect candidate for them.

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I wish we could run government like a business. Then a majority of congress would be out on their *** for not doing their jobs, since you can't get away from that in other places.
The problem with government is that they aren't expected to turn out productivity or even a profit, so there is no incentive for them to do anything. Why do you think it's a bureaucrat's haven?
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-18 11:29:02  
Anyone care enough to prove this wrong or am I just going to get a bunch of shallow meaningless comments?

ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Advisor.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications.
NBC News Political Analyst, David Axelrod was Obama's Chief Campaign Advisor and Senior Advisor directly to Obama himself.
NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a Board Member of Warren Buffet’s Company Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet donated 920 million dollars to Obama’s campaign.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who now works for CNN as a commentator.
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
ABC News chief political correspondent and anchor George Stephanopoulos was the White House Communications Director then Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy for Bill Clinton, and was just caught secretly donating $75,000 to the Clinton foundation.
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
NBC Chelsea Clinton was making $600,000.00 a year + benefits as a starting reporter.
Univision’s Emmy Award Winning Anchor Jorge Ramos’s daughter is working on Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign.
Yahoo is partnered with ABC News. The CEO of yahoo, Marissa Mayer is also an Obama campaign donor who has donated over $300,000.00 to Obama’s campaigns and has even hosted Obama fundraisers in her own home.
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 11:34:17  
Altimaomega said: »
Anyone care enough to prove this wrong or am I just going to get a bunch of shallow meaningless comments?

ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Advisor.
CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications.
NBC News Political Analyst, David Axelrod was Obama's Chief Campaign Advisor and Senior Advisor directly to Obama himself.
NBC CEO Stephen Burke is a Board Member of Warren Buffet’s Company Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet donated 920 million dollars to Obama’s campaign.
ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who now works for CNN as a commentator.
ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary.
ABC News chief political correspondent and anchor George Stephanopoulos was the White House Communications Director then Senior Advisor for Policy and Strategy for Bill Clinton, and was just caught secretly donating $75,000 to the Clinton foundation.
ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood.
CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.
NBC Chelsea Clinton was making $600,000.00 a year + benefits as a starting reporter.
Univision’s Emmy Award Winning Anchor Jorge Ramos’s daughter is working on Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign.
Yahoo is partnered with ABC News. The CEO of yahoo, Marissa Mayer is also an Obama campaign donor who has donated over $300,000.00 to Obama’s campaigns and has even hosted Obama fundraisers in her own home.

That is precisely the problem no one cares !
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-01-18 12:29:13  
Altimaomega said: »
Anyone care enough to prove this wrong or am I just going to get a bunch of shallow meaningless comments?

I don't know, I just assume everyone's biased one way or the other, so I take everything I hear with a grain of salt. Nice to not see anyone from the BBC or PBS on your list.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 12:29:22  
Some of those on the list are "guilty by association."

In other words, not really worth publicly shaming, much less attacking.

The only one's worth attacking are David Axelrod, George Stephanopoulos, and Chelsea Clinton. Everyone else is just associated with top aides.
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 12:32:32  
I tried listening to NPR once after three minutes I felt guilty for being white.

This is all things considered with internet strangers:

Are topics include who is putting lead in your water ?

How to get organic farm to table food without using Yelp ?

And how to drive a Hybrid without being smug !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 12:37:44  
In financial news:

France's Hollande sets out plan to tackle 'economic emergency'

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President Francois Hollande pledged Monday to spend more than 2.0 billion euros ($2.2 billion) on tackling France's "state of economic emergency".

Hollande said he would pump in funding to address the stubbornly high unemployment that has dogged his four years in power, and promised it would not come from tax rises.

The opposition greeted the plan with scorn because Hollande has linked his ability to cut the joblessness to his bid to win re-election in 2017, but the president dismissed suggestions that the measures were "artificial".

"These two billion euros will not be financed through extra taxes of any kind. They will be financed by savings," Hollande said in a New Year's speech to business leaders.

He said one billion euros would be spent on training schemes for unemployed people.

Joblessness, which stands at around 10 percent or 3.57 million people in the eurozone's second-largest economy, was the "only issue that ranks above security for the French people", the president said.

After several years of sluggish growth, the French economy took another blow with the jihadist attacks in November that killed 130 people, which slowed activity in the fourth quarter.

Hollande, a Socialist, said France needs to "increase the pace of reforms", adding that innovation is "key" to getting people back to work.

"France must also increase training, education and the level of qualifications of its workers," he said.

The president said he would "go the extra mile" to bring in reforms and insisted he would do so "above and beyond any electoral event", in a clear reference to the presidential election.

Under the new measures to stimulate recruitment, companies employing fewer than 250 people will receive a 2,000 euro bonus for each new employee with a contract of more than six months, under certain conditions.

The right-wing Republicans of former president Nicolas Sarkozy poured scorn on that measure.

"What planet are Francois Hollande and his government living on if they think it is enough to write a cheque of 1,000 or 2,000 euros to a company that takes someone on?" said the party's Guillaume Larrive.

A leading member of the Republicans, Christian Estrosi, said the measures were "unfortunately just a way of camouflaging the failure of the government's policy, which since 2012 has demonstrated its ineffectiveness".

Hollande's Socialist Party hit back, saying the measures would bring "more vitality and confidence" to the economy.

France came out of three years of economic stagnation last year with growth of more than 1.0 percent.

But 650,000 people have been added to the jobless total since Hollande became president in 2012.

And yet, another piece of evidence showing that socialism doesn't work. When will people get it that socialism leads to stagnation and eventually decline?

What's really scary is that there are people advocating it for the US. If you think 2008-2010 was shitty, just wait until socialism kicks in!
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By fonewear 2016-01-18 12:41:41  
C'est la vie ! And that concludes my deep knowledge of the French.

That and this Eartha Kitt song:

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By fonewear 2016-01-18 12:51:44  
It's a pretty good song though you got to admit.
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-18 13:44:30  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
What's really scary is that there are people advocating it for the US. If you think 2008-2010 was shitty, just wait until socialism kicks in!

It's already starting to show, will know for sure tomorrow and the rest of the week. I'm doubting that this news is going to help the stock market.

Who knows though, its a rigged game anyways.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 13:56:46  
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Who knows though, its a rigged game anyways.
What is? The stock market?
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-18 14:00:40  
Its that thing that the evil 1% use to make even more money off of the other 99% and has done it so well the past 7yrs anyone that says democrats are against the 1% is an ignorant fool..
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 14:06:28  
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Its that thing that the evil 1% use to make even more money off of the other 99% and has done it so well the past 7yrs anyone that says democrats are against the 1% is an ignorant fool..
Oh, the federal government.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-18 14:37:09  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.
So Carly should have run as a democrat then?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 14:38:56  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.
So Carly should have run as a democrat then?
Apparently sarcasm is a concept foreign to you.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-01-18 14:59:14  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.
So Carly should have run as a democrat then?
Apparently sarcasm is a concept foreign to you.
We have a sarcasm tag for that
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 15:08:25  
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.
So Carly should have run as a democrat then?
Apparently sarcasm is a concept foreign to you.
We have a sarcasm tag for that
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By Valefor.Endoq 2016-01-18 15:31:00  


I'm voting Putin for world dictator in 2016
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 15:32:41  
He lost my vote when he went anti-vax.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-01-18 15:34:33  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
According to the liberal handbook, a good president is also able to run a business to the ground. Therefor, Trump is a good candidate because several of his minor businesses went bankrupt.
So Carly should have run as a democrat then?
Apparently sarcasm is a concept foreign to you.
We have a sarcasm tag for that
You did it wrong
That's not how any of this works!
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By Jassik 2016-01-18 15:36:41  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He lost my vote when he went anti-vax.

He never had my vote, but he'd have lost it long before that.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 15:36:46  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
That's not how any of this works!
How do you mine for fish?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-01-18 15:39:24  
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He lost my vote when he went anti-vax.

He never had my vote, but he'd have lost it long before that.
I think he is a strong leader, one of the strongest in the world right now.

His stance on gay people, his xenophobia, his support of a mass-murdering dictator, and his anti-vax rhetoric would keep me from actively supporting him, but you cannot deny that he is a strong leader. Better than certain current US presidents.

Edit: Nobody saw that.

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-01-18 15:45:55  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He lost my vote when he went anti-vax.

He never had my vote, but he'd have lost it long before that.
I think he is a strong leader, one of the strongest in the world right now.

His stance on gay people, his xenophobia, his support of a mass-murdering dictator, and his anti-vax rhetoric would keep me from actively supporting him, but you cannot deny that he is a strong leader. Better than certain current US presidents.

Edit: Nobody saw that.

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By Jassik 2016-01-18 15:55:40  
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
He lost my vote when he went anti-vax.

He never had my vote, but he'd have lost it long before that.
I think he is a strong leader, one of the strongest in the world right now.

His stance on gay people, his xenophobia, his support of a mass-murdering dictator, and his anti-vax rhetoric would keep me from actively supporting him, but you cannot deny that he is a strong leader. Better than certain current US presidents.

Edit: Nobody saw that.

>.>

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Stalin was a strong leader...
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