Random Politics & Religion #00

So now people are acting oblivious to how school works?

You don't get to up and leave. If you're not made to participate then you're still a captive audience. Not everyone celebrates Jesus's birthday. This is not a hard concept.

Gasp, secular democracy protecting the rights of minorities, what a truly anti-American, anti-democratic phenomenon.

anti-democratic

Or they could just run away.

Yeah, those kids sure need protecting from the holiday songs and decorations that are present practically everywhere and are hurting exactly zero people. Evergreen trees with lights on them are the end of civilized society as we know it.

I was just kidding when I posted this. I really didn't think you'd actually run with it.

Yeah, those kids sure need protecting from the holiday songs and decorations that are present practically everywhere and are hurting exactly zero people. Evergreen trees with lights on them are the end of civilized society as we know it.

The Jews don't recognize Jesus as a Prophet or God, Muslims don't recognize him as a God. It's pretty blasphemous for both groups, in their own religions, to sing praise for a God they don't believe in.
Just as it would blasphemous for a Catholic to be forced to pray to a God 5 times a day they don't believe in.

Where do you draw the line? The constitution and all modern secular democracies made it clear centuries ago.

You establish one religion as the "accepted" norm, and all other religions as "others". Eventually you have people burning down mosques and synagogues and abortion clinics because their God is the official God, and everyone else is either a goyem, or their way towards heaven, or 70 virgins.

What am I hating?

Obviously Christmas songs. I mean, you want to run away from them, right?

If not, then what's your problem? Why are you bitching?

Obviously Christmas songs. I mean, you want to run away from them, right?

If not, then what's your problem? Why are you bitching?

I love christmas songs but I'll defend people's rights to not be forced to sing them and to subscribe to whatever religion they believe in.

The Jews don't recognize Jesus as a Prophet or God, Muslims don't recognize him as a God. It's pretty blasphemous for both groups, in their own religions, to sing praise for a God they don't believe in.
Just as it would blasphemous for a Catholic to be forced to pray to a God 5 times a day they don't believe in.

Where do you draw the line? The constitution and all modern secular democracies made it clear centuries ago.

You establish one religion as the "accepted" norm, and all other religions as "others". Eventually you have people burning down mosques and synagogues and abortion clinics because their God is the official God, and everyone else is either a goyem, or their way towards heaven, or 70 virgins.

Running away is just as valid a solution to this topic as it is to slavery.

So today I learned that I apparently hate xmas cause I think people shouldn't be forced to partake in christian rituals such as prayer and religious chants.

Oh no..it's happening again..here it comes.. *rolls eyes* ah dammit couldn't avoid it!

Obviously Christmas songs. I mean, you want to run away from them, right?

If not, then what's your problem? Why are you bitching?

So today I learned that I apparently hate xmas cause I think people shouldn't be forced to partake in christian rituals such as prayer and religious chants.

Oh no..it's happening again..here it comes.. *rolls eyes* ah dammit couldn't avoid it!

Because the education system is not about exclusion. Your solution that non-believers should simply opt-out (by ditching, lol) is not a viable one.

Ok, if you want to be put into a situation you are uncomfortable (to say the least) in, by all means do it.

While I, if ever in a situation I don't want to be in, would do the smart thing and remove myself from that situation.

If you want to be a dipshit and stay in that situation you don't want to be in, then why should I care?

They may reference themselves to be descendants, but to call them actual sons or daughters of the confederate is stretching the truth beyond their breaking point.

But hey, if you want to consider them sons/daughters, go for it. Not the first time you are wrong, and it certainly won't be the last time either.

Yup, you're completely off base too because nobody here is suggesting such a thing.

I don't even think you know who you're arguing with anymore. There's so much hyperbole in your posts that you're barely on topic to begin with.

How many here have never heard the sons/daughters of the confederacy/union?

Taking this out of the EU thread as it is a complete derail.

How many here have never heard the sons/daughters of the confederacy/union?

My exposure through family and friends could be higher than average but everyone I knew referred to their membership as a daughter/son of the confederacy/union.

I was in the top school choir in my city. We were invited to a variety of holiday functions and catered our songs to whomever we were singing for. We had many atheists in the choir and a Jew, and nobody was forced to sing anything that they didn't feel comfortable singing. Nobody opted out because they were more interested in singing for the fun of it and honing their craft instead of whining and complaining. Heck, we even sang Hava Nagila that year and had a blast doing it. Call the freaking wambulance.

Taking this out of the EU thread as it is a complete derail.

How many here have never heard the sons/daughters of the confederacy/union?

My exposure through family and friends could be higher than average but everyone I knew referred to their membership as a daughter/son of the confederacy/union.

Donald Trump in spat with 'dopey' Saudi Prince as Muslim row rumbles on
Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, whose wealth dwarfs even that of Mr Trump, uses Twitter to call on Republican front-runner a disgrace to all America

Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate who has shot to the head of the polls with a campaign based on hyperbole and bombast, has done it again, this time engaing in a very public slanging match with a Saudi prince.
Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, who is thought to be worth $32 billion (£21 billion), called on the Republican frontrunner to withdraw from the race following his demand that Muslims to be banned from entering the US.

The prince, who does not hold an official government position, built his wealth through seed money from his father and a series of smart investments.
His investment firm, Kingdom Holding, owns stakes in hotels like The Four Seasons, Fairmont and Raffles - the sort of upmarket venues that Mr Trump would surely covet.

Intriguingly, his media holdings include a considerable stake in the parent company of Fox News, one of Mr Trump's frequent platforms.
Earlier this year the prince said he would be giving away all his money to charity.
In contrast, Mr Trump claims to be worth $9 billion - also built from a $1 million loan from his father - but four of his companies have claimed bankruptcy.
On Friday night, he responded to Prince Al-Waleed in typically unrestained style.

Mr Trump's comments have already cost him business in the Middle East, with a major chain of department stores halting sales of his glitzy "Trump Home" line of lamps, mirrors and jewellery boxes.
On Thursday, Dubai real estate firm Damac, which is building a $6 billion golf complex with Mr Trump, stripped the property of his name and image.
It is just the latest in a series of Twitter spats for Mr Trump, whose campaign uses outrage to generate headlines and keep the 69-year-old on television talk shows.
This week a petition to keep him out of the UK passed 500,000 signatures, raising the prospect of a parliamentary debate.

So far, however, each controversy has failed to dent his lead. In fact, the latest polls suggest Republican voters broadly support his proposal to keep out Muslims in the wake of terrorist attacks in Paris and California.