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Random Politics & Religion #00
Valefor.Sehachan said: » Middle east, Turkey, the balkans, north Africa..that's the ottomans which seems a good geographical parallel. I see no reason they should attack Saudi considering the ideology, that leaves Iran which I'm not sure if it's a target. Their main target is Saudi Arabia by the way. Even before Israel. Like every other terrorist group from the region. Valefor.Sehachan said: » I see no reason they should attack Saudi considering the ideology I suppose it's cause Saudi is all "go team west" even though they're totally not western like.
Valefor.Sehachan said: » I suppose it's cause Saudi is all "go team west" even though they're totally not western like. kinda. A bit more complicated. They are pretty bat sh!t crazy and so extreme that traditionally conservative countries like Saudi look like liberal havens for infidels. maldini said: » countries like Saudi look like liberal havens If wahhabland is liberal then Idk man, not that I had any higher consideration of IS before but..goodnight.
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Good night Seha. I should've done that 2 hours ago.
I feel that I just turned this thread into RT. inb4 topic-banned. maldini said: » I just realized some people might think Israel is part of ISIS.
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Best articles so far on the GOP brokered convention flap:
Republicans discussed possibility of brokered convention CNN, a just the fax jax article. Conservative backlash grows against brokered convention Hill, reaction and deeper backgrounds. Got dragged to see the last Hunger Games movie tonight or should I say Hunger LAMES. Mockingjay? More like Mocking-gay. I'm hilarious. Goodnight.
I totally get why Philip Seymour Hoffman OD'd though.
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Got dragged to see the last Hunger Games movie tonight or should I say Hunger LAMES. Mockingjay? More like Mocking-gay. I'm hilarious. Goodnight. I totally get why Philip Seymour Hoffman OD'd though.
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For everyone on the liberal train jumping down trumps neck and all the Muslims crying persecution. Where are your voices for the Israelites for the last 50 years till today.
Just for clarification I don't agree in banning but a much tighter security religious checks on entry. An overview of it at least. And to able to have an honest talk about islam without people throwing insults and dismissing the connection. Quote: No one seems bothered with 16 Muslim countries where Israelis are banned Countries that do not accept Israeli passports Sixteen countries forbid admission to Israeli passport holders: Algeria Bangladesh Brunei Iran Iraq (except Iraqi Kurdistan) Kuwait Lebanon (neighboring country; territory dispute – Shebaa farms) Libya Malaysia (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Home Affairs.) Oman Pakistan (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Internal Security.) Saudi Arabia Sudan Syria (neighboring country; territory dispute – Golan Heights) United Arab Emirates (accepted for transit only; not allowed for admission) Yemen In addition, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen do not allow entry to people with evidence of travel to Israel, or whose passports have either a used or an unused Israeli visa. As a consequence, many countries will allow for a second passport to be issued to citizens wishing to circumvent this restriction.
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Did you see us cheering for their policies? No? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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charlo999 said: » For everyone on the liberal train jumping down trumps neck and all the Muslims crying persecution. Where are your voices for the Israelites for the last 50 years till today. Just for clarification I don't agree in banning but a much tighter security religious checks on entry. An overview of it at least. And to able to have an honest talk about islam without people throwing insults and dismissing the connection. Quote: No one seems bothered with 16 Muslim countries where Israelis are banned Countries that do not accept Israeli passports Sixteen countries forbid admission to Israeli passport holders: Algeria Bangladesh Brunei Iran Iraq (except Iraqi Kurdistan) Kuwait Lebanon (neighboring country; territory dispute – Shebaa farms) Libya Malaysia (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Home Affairs.) Oman Pakistan (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Internal Security.) Saudi Arabia Sudan Syria (neighboring country; territory dispute – Golan Heights) United Arab Emirates (accepted for transit only; not allowed for admission) Yemen In addition, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen do not allow entry to people with evidence of travel to Israel, or whose passports have either a used or an unused Israeli visa. As a consequence, many countries will allow for a second passport to be issued to citizens wishing to circumvent this restriction.
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charlo999 said: » For everyone on the liberal train jumping down trumps neck and all the Muslims crying persecution. Where are your voices for the Israelites for the last 50 years till today. Just for clarification I don't agree in banning but a much tighter security religious checks on entry. An overview of it at least. And to able to have an honest talk about islam without people throwing insults and dismissing the connection. Quote: No one seems bothered with 16 Muslim countries where Israelis are banned Countries that do not accept Israeli passports Sixteen countries forbid admission to Israeli passport holders: Algeria Bangladesh Brunei Iran Iraq (except Iraqi Kurdistan) Kuwait Lebanon (neighboring country; territory dispute – Shebaa farms) Libya Malaysia (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Home Affairs.) Oman Pakistan (Clearance permit needed from the Ministry of Internal Security.) Saudi Arabia Sudan Syria (neighboring country; territory dispute – Golan Heights) United Arab Emirates (accepted for transit only; not allowed for admission) Yemen In addition, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen do not allow entry to people with evidence of travel to Israel, or whose passports have either a used or an unused Israeli visa. As a consequence, many countries will allow for a second passport to be issued to citizens wishing to circumvent this restriction. You didn't mention that Israel has the same or worse policies towards those same nations. That's because the countries you mention above do not recognize the state of Israel and/or in a state of cold war with them. Also those same countries you mentioned, for the most part, have perfectly normal relationships with the rest of the world and more importantly their neighbors. Israel is a controversial state that doesn't enjoy a lot of support from the international community for a reason. But kudos to you for using an argumentative fallacy to derail the discussion so you can push forward your neo-nazi agenda. Anyone else see the irony of mentioning Israel, a state where you have to be jewish to be a citizen, in an argument that centers around freedom of religion and liberty?
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maldini said: » .... Anyone else see the irony of mentioning Israel, a state where you have to be jewish to be a citizen, in an argument that centers around freedom of religion and liberty?
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No your wrong isreal takes in any religion which is why they have come out against Trump.
Forbes article on the subject.
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Garuda.Chanti said: » maldini said: » .... Anyone else see the irony of mentioning Israel, a state where you have to be jewish to be a citizen, in an argument that centers around freedom of religion and liberty? Ragnarok.Zeig said: » Pretty sure these countries don't deny Jews entry. Nation of origin and religion are rarely as intertwined as is the case with Israel, but that is a good point. Saudi and Iran, at least, attack Israel's sovereignty, not specifically Judaism.
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I heard there a lot of Jews in Hollywood...but that is only a rumor !
fonewear said: » I heard there a lot of Jews in Hollywood...but that is only a rumor ! Naw, there really are a lot of Jews in Hollywood. Show business in general, actually. charlo999 said: » No your wrong isreal takes in any religion which is why they have come out against Trump. Forbes article on the subject. While its true even Netanyahu has said Trump is too crazy even for him, Israel's greatest failure as a democracy centers around its intolerance for other religions and people as a society and people. I'm not saying its an evil country, I'm saying facts are facts. Look at the most recent issues with African migrants there. Pretty hard to watch some of the stuff that is coming out of there. fonewear said: » I heard there a lot of Jews in Hollywood...but that is only a rumor ! I don't like jew bashing (or any bashing based on religion or ethnicity) but the fact is: Hollywood was founded by a handful of jewish migrants that came to the US in the early 20th century. Mostly from Poland. maldini said: » fonewear said: » I heard there a lot of Jews in Hollywood...but that is only a rumor ! I don't like jew bashing (or any bashing based on religion or ethnicity) but the fact is: Hollywood was founded by a handful of jewish migrants that came to the US in the early 20th century. Mostly from Poland. I don't see it as bashing. Unless you imply there's something wrong with it, you're just stating a fact. Yeah, there's a lot of Jews in Hollywood... Is that a problem?
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Jew got a problem with Jews I don't !
Jassik said: » maldini said: » fonewear said: » I heard there a lot of Jews in Hollywood...but that is only a rumor ! I don't like jew bashing (or any bashing based on religion or ethnicity) but the fact is: Hollywood was founded by a handful of jewish migrants that came to the US in the early 20th century. Mostly from Poland. I don't see it as bashing. Unless you imply there's something wrong with it, you're just stating a fact. Yeah, there's a lot of Jews in Hollywood... Is that a problem? Eh, you have to be careful about speaking about any group collectively, but that's not a new thing, the bigotry if often embodies has just become less acceptable.
Jassik said: » Eh, you have to be careful about speaking about any group collectively, but that's not a new thing, the bigotry if often embodies has just become less acceptable. Except white people. Its open season on white people, every month of the year!
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maldini said: » charlo999 said: » No your wrong isreal takes in any religion which is why they have come out against Trump. Forbes article on the subject. While its true even Netanyahu has said Trump is too crazy even for him, Israel's greatest failure as a democracy centers around its intolerance for other religions and people as a society and people. I'm not saying its an evil country, I'm saying facts are facts. Look at the most recent issues with African migrants there. Pretty hard to watch some of the stuff that is coming out of there. Is this the wave of illegal immigration from Africa that came to Isreal? Which were running scared from extremist Muslims chopping off heads. It's a tricky balance of accepting people but still keeping the beliefs and identity of the Jewish culture, faith and its people safe. That's why Isreal was established for the people who live there so what would be the point just to have open gates and lose the majority and purpose. They are an extremely small country. I don't see you attacking Australia for being tough on accepting migrants. To be fair to Isreal as much as they suffer from attacks, it's amasing they are as accepting as they are. |
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