Has a debate over what scripture commands and teaches.
Doesn't know what scripture commands and teaches.
Shown wrong by scripture he's arguing against and for.
Is asked to show scriptural commands and teachings as evidence to back up what he's debating.
Can't and won't for lolz reasons.
Obtuse it is then. Blocked.
Random Politics & Religion #00
Random Politics & Religion #00
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
charlo999 said: »
Where in Christianity's doctrine does it tell its followers to force its teaching of gods morality laws in a political way on a government to be made law like Islam does in its commands and sharia?
The 10 commandments? That's already a good start.
You seem to have Christians mixed up with Israelites. Don't worry it happens a lot to the biblically ignorant.
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You act like it means nothing, when it actually shows they don't have to enforce insane laws.
I'm with you in doing away with most of the stuff Allah commanded. It's hardly good sense to judge everything he commanded by groups of people who only do some of it though.
You seem to think you speak for all Christians. I grew up in a community that took the OT all literally and believes everything is 100% true including silver for rape, keeping slaves being God sanctioned, mass murdering your neighbors, putting adulterers to death etc.
God of the Israelites is the God of Christianity so whatever was sanctioned back then, was approved by God then as well.
So Noah was a Pokemon Master who went to Australia to pick up critters, North America for those critters then watched the world drown as he fed dinosaurs because everyone was wicked. Still interested in how those Native Americans got to North America and fell out of contact with the one true faith until Europeans showed up.
Who decides what is allegory and what is fact?
Who decides if the OT is defunct?
Who is the REAL Christian?
Here's a sword/board. Settle it. That's how it was traditionally settled.
God of the Israelites is the God of Christianity so whatever was sanctioned back then, was approved by God then as well.
So Noah was a Pokemon Master who went to Australia to pick up critters, North America for those critters then watched the world drown as he fed dinosaurs because everyone was wicked. Still interested in how those Native Americans got to North America and fell out of contact with the one true faith until Europeans showed up.
Who decides what is allegory and what is fact?
Who decides if the OT is defunct?
Who is the REAL Christian?
Here's a sword/board. Settle it. That's how it was traditionally settled.
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charlo999 said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
charlo999 said: »
Where in Christianity's doctrine does it tell its followers to force its teaching of gods morality laws in a political way on a government to be made law like Islam does in its commands and sharia?
The 10 commandments? That's already a good start.
You seem to have Christians mixed up with Israelites. Don't worry it happens a lot to the biblically ignorant.
I even bolded it for you.
charlo999 said: »
You seem to have Christians mixed up with Israelites. Don't worry it happens a lot to the biblically ignorant.
The Old Testament is the first section of the Christian Bible,
lame wikipedia link
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
You seem to think you speak for all Christians
You underestimate his ego.
He doesn't care about Christians, if you've read the things he's written over time you come to realize he looks down on everyone and views his interpretation of things as the only accurate interpretation of all of the things. Like, all of them. The entire universe.
He doesn't speak for flawed Christians.
He speaks for God himself.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
So Noah was a Pokemon Master
Dodo, I choose you!
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Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Here's a sword/board, that's how it was traditionally settled.
Hey man, lay off the sword and board. I like my Gladiator spec these days.
(Verboten WoW reference is a go.)
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
the next time you talk to him please ask him to stop by and pay me a visit.
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charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
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He loves to point out the no true scot about islam, but when it applies to him he completely ignores it lol.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
What question are you answering here?
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
Have you ever been to a UU service?
Holy balls.
I had to go to a UU wedding service. Hardest I've ever tried not to laugh during a "religious" service in my life. It's basically just a Catholic mass with all kinds of ambiguous language substituted for things like "god" and "jesus," etc.
It's hilarious.
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"My son went to Earth once. I don't know what you people did to him, but he hasn't been the same ever since."
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Ramyrez said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
Have you ever been to a UU service?
Holy balls.
I had to go to a UU wedding service. Hardest I've ever tried not to laugh during a "religious" service in my life. It's basically just a Catholic mass with all kinds of ambiguous language substituted for things like "god" and "jesus," etc.
It's hilarious.
I was invited once. By someone who thought my lack of faith was due to the harsh language of more 'hardcore' churches.
Enter UU, church for agnostics. Where you're there for the community and the belief is the loose reason for assembling.
Not my scene. If you want to hang out with likeminded people, it doesn't need to be church. Especially when people don't believe it.
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You are all wrong convert to Islam before it's too late.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Who's ignorant?
/sheepishly raises his hand a little
someone just told me there wasn't an airplane equivalent to a car's alternator that provides electrical power for the plane....
and I was like...that sounds weird... I am going to have to go look that one up...
but then I forgot about it
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
"My son went to Earth once. I don't know what you people did to him, but he hasn't been the same ever since."
Credit to SMBC
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Jetackuu said: »
Valefor.Endoq said: »
I have been given freedom from those set of laws.
That is all I meant by the statement you took out of context.
Ehh? This sure got weird.
As I've said before, the Old Testament is just a bunch of oral stories and traditions that were passed down generation to generation until they were written down. The laws and rules they speak about are merely just things that "worked" for those people, in that environment at that time. When you are a group of semi-nomadic tribes moving around and living a harsh life, those things are actually needed to be functional. Most other nomadic tribes also developed similiar traditions and laws. People who take that stuff literally these days are missing the forest for the trees.
As I've said before, the Old Testament is just a bunch of oral stories and traditions that were passed down generation to generation until they were written down. The laws and rules they speak about are merely just things that "worked" for those people, in that environment at that time. When you are a group of semi-nomadic tribes moving around and living a harsh life, those things are actually needed to be functional. Most other nomadic tribes also developed similiar traditions and laws. People who take that stuff literally these days are missing the forest for the trees.
Valefor.Endoq said: »
Cerberus.Conagh said: »
*** statistic
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2014/10/05/the-alcohol-industry-needs-alcoholism-to-thrive/
And I was wrong about the percent.
The real percent is 20% become addicts and that 20% makes 80% of alcohol sales.
So it's actually worse than what I stated before.
Good night.
Terribly sorry, but I believe Jassik already crushed your argument because you did use *** Statistics which are not accurate to the exact principle you were arguing, may I suggest dropping the bible you seem to be delivering a sermon from and open a text book for Mathematics and perhaps fill your brain with facts rather propaganda written to indoctrinate people in a subservient state.
All you've managed to do so far is argue "stance" with no understanding of what you were actually arguing. While yeah it's poorly written, I managed to get it on my first try so, I'll hold you to the same standard.
New poll shows Ted Cruz in the lead in Iowa caucuses.
Politically induced priapism. How long must one go before contacting health officials again?
Politically induced priapism. How long must one go before contacting health officials again?
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
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Matthew 7:15-20
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
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Galatians 5
19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
There are guidelines here to help us know who is really doing Christs work or their own work.
Anyone calling them self a Christian should really examine them self to see if these scriptures are true in their life.
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Who's ignorant?
/sheepishly raises his hand a little
someone just told me there wasn't an airplane equivalent to a car's alternator that provides electrical power for the plane....
and I was like...that sounds weird... I am going to have to go look that one up...
but then I forgot about it
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Valefor.Endoq said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
charlo999 said: »
Who decides? um Christ as in 'christ'ian.
Do you know how many Christian sects exist today? Everything from ultra liberal Universal Unitarians to your predestination mooks all the way to the KKK and WBC.
You can say X aren't Christians but if they legit believe in Christ and take him as savior, they're Christians.
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
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