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Random Politics & Religion #00
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » They have also advocated father's visitation rights, even when the father is a rapist. Siren.Mosin said: » Women should have control over their own bodies, period. Just because some of you don't like that doesn't mean it should ever change. It's been this way for 40 some odd years, get over it. But killing another body is not control over ones own body. A mother and child are not one being. That baby growing inside her is not part of her body, the baby is their own body and a new life. Sometimes when I'm making breakfast and I crack an egg, I think to myself 'why can't all abortions be this delicious?'
Siren.Mosin said: » Sometimes when I'm making breakfast and I crack an egg, I think to myself 'why can't all abortions be this delicious?' Do you have the same level of care for the myriad of bacteria living in our bellies too?
Valefor.Sehachan said: » Do you have the same level of care for the myriad of bacteria living in our bellies too? So are you saying humans and animals are the same?
If that's the case why don't you eat human meat along with animal meat. I mean there is no difference to you, right? Asura.Kingnobody said: » This quoted post is an obvious attempt to illicit a specific negative response towards a specific person, which is by definition a troll post. And yet, nothing gets done. There is no need to use the report feature as this is an obvious troll post that an administrator has seen.... You people all call out each other constantly, and there is zero chance I'm going to spend my time trying to decipher what's banter and what's aggression. I can guarantee that none of you want my actual solution to that sort of problem, so maybe just roll with it and remember that with a couple of exceptions, everyone who frequents this section engages in that now and then. There's no policing it short of requiring moderator approval on every post or some such nuclear-option nonsense. Also, "troll" as a word doesn't mean anything anymore; people have abused it and used it to mean so many things that aren't classical trolling, that it's worthless as a descriptor. This is why I changed the rules to say "provoke" instead, since people haven't devalued that one yet. So, sure, he's provoking you there, but you called him out for not getting enough public punishment half a page earlier so what exactly were you expecting? I'm still all aboard the nuke train.
You're right, I need my intestinal flora to live, since we are in symbiosis.
Meanwhile, yes my life is more important than an ensemble of pluripotent cells. But I know who I'm talking to so I guess I'll stop bothering. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Do you have the same level of care for the myriad of bacteria living in our bellies too? Nice tangent though. i'm drinking some variety apple fusion juice. comes with a warning that this product has not been pasteurized and therefore may contain harmful bacteria that may cause serious illness.
Valefor.Endoq said: » So are you saying humans and animals are the same? If that's the case why don't you eat human meat along with animal meat. I mean there is no difference to you, right? I've seen some people at Wal-Mart who'd make good hamburgers. They aren't free range, organic, artisinal people so I leave them alone. Probably packed full of pesticides and other toxins. My crystals tell me I really should stay away from that type of stuff. So I sigh and look at the chicken breasts on sale for $5.99. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Jassik said: » Thousands are killed by drone strikes including innocent children that do have consciousness and do suffer, no objection. In case it isn't, let's be absolutely clear. NO, YOU DON'T BOMB A SCHOOL. EVEN WHEN YOUR ENEMIES HIDE THEIR ROCKETS IN IT. Valefor.Endoq said: » Why is adoption such an impossibility? What is 9 months out of your party life worth? Is it worth a human life? Of all the people you know, and have known, how many do you know have adopted a child? Valefor.Endoq said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Women should have control over their own bodies, period. Just because some of you don't like that doesn't mean it should ever change. It's been this way for 40 some odd years, get over it. But killing another body is not control over ones own body. A mother and child are not one being. That baby growing inside her is not part of her body, the baby is their own body and a new life. Anyone know a good place to hide my rockets? Apparently schools aren't an option anymore.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Anyone know a good place to hide my rockets? Apparently schools aren't an option anymore. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Jassik said: » Thousands are killed by drone strikes including innocent children that do have consciousness and do suffer, no objection. In case it isn't, let's be absolutely clear. NO, YOU DON'T BOMB A SCHOOL. EVEN WHEN YOUR ENEMIES HIDE THEIR ROCKETS IN IT. Right we'll really show them by letting them launch those rockets at OUR schools! They would never make it that far, come on
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Jassik said: » Thousands are killed by drone strikes including innocent children that do have consciousness and do suffer, no objection. In case it isn't, let's be absolutely clear. NO, YOU DON'T BOMB A SCHOOL. EVEN WHEN YOUR ENEMIES HIDE THEIR ROCKETS IN IT. Right we'll really show them by letting them launch those rockets at OUR schools! Bahamut.Milamber said: » Valefor.Endoq said: » Why is adoption such an impossibility? What is 9 months out of your party life worth? Is it worth a human life? Of all the people you know, and have known, how many do you know have adopted a child? Valefor.Endoq said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Women should have control over their own bodies, period. Just because some of you don't like that doesn't mean it should ever change. It's been this way for 40 some odd years, get over it. But killing another body is not control over ones own body. A mother and child are not one being. That baby growing inside her is not part of her body, the baby is their own body and a new life. All of these adopted people I have had the privilege of knowing have been a huge blessing in my life and the life's around them. As for me adopting a child? I unfortunately cannot adopt because I would not be able to support a child. I would end up having to put my child up for adoption if I were to try to take on a task like that at this point in my life. Your second question isn't even a serious one so I will leave my response as is. Valefor.Endoq said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Valefor.Endoq said: » Why is adoption such an impossibility? What is 9 months out of your party life worth? Is it worth a human life? Of all the people you know, and have known, how many do you know have adopted a child? Valefor.Endoq said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Women should have control over their own bodies, period. Just because some of you don't like that doesn't mean it should ever change. It's been this way for 40 some odd years, get over it. But killing another body is not control over ones own body. A mother and child are not one being. That baby growing inside her is not part of her body, the baby is their own body and a new life. All of these adopted people I have had the privilege of knowing have been a huge blessing in my life and the life's around them. As for me adopting a child? I unfortunately cannot adopt because I would not be able to support a child. I would end up having to put my child up for adoption if I were to try to take on a task like that at this point in my life. Your second question isn't even a serious one so I will leave my response as is. So, likely on the order of less than 10% have adopted? And as for the second question, if you wish to enjoin a fetus with the legal protections of a human being, why should it not enjoy the full protection of the law? Bahamut.Milamber said: » Valefor.Endoq said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Valefor.Endoq said: » Why is adoption such an impossibility? What is 9 months out of your party life worth? Is it worth a human life? Of all the people you know, and have known, how many do you know have adopted a child? Valefor.Endoq said: » Siren.Mosin said: » Women should have control over their own bodies, period. Just because some of you don't like that doesn't mean it should ever change. It's been this way for 40 some odd years, get over it. But killing another body is not control over ones own body. A mother and child are not one being. That baby growing inside her is not part of her body, the baby is their own body and a new life. All of these adopted people I have had the privilege of knowing have been a huge blessing in my life and the life's around them. As for me adopting a child? I unfortunately cannot adopt because I would not be able to support a child. I would end up having to put my child up for adoption if I were to try to take on a task like that at this point in my life. Your second question isn't even a serious one so I will leave my response as is. So, likely on the order of less than 10% have adopted? And as for the second question, if you wish to enjoin a fetus with the legal protections of a human being, why should it not enjoy the full protection of the law? First of all, miscarry is not the fault of the mother. So she would be in no way liable. Intentional miscarry aka abortion, is a conscious decision and therefor should be counted as manslaughter or murder depending on the understanding the mother had while carrying out the abortion. As for a statistic on adoption based on my small circle of people I know? Sure, I'll use your 10%. That would mean of the 7,400,000,000 people on earth there are 740 million people on earth that will adopt, and since we are making up statistics lets say half of the worlds population are children and the other half adults, and lets say of those children 10% are needed to be put up for adoption. That leaves 370,000,000 children in need of adoption and 740,000,000 people ready and wanting to adopt. 2 people for ever 1 child in need of adoption. Perfect. Isn't statistical science great? Especially when you get to make it up as you go... Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Siren.Akson said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » the last thing you ever get to do is claim to be "compassionate". If only they allowed same-sex couples to adopt in more countries, would help a lot of kids
Bismarck.Dracondria said: » If only they allowed same-sex couples to adopt in more countries, would help a lot of kids People can't even get over other races raising a baby of a different race and we're going to talk about same sex adoption? The pro-life position is a position of little to no compromise. Not only must these children be raised by unfit/uninterested parents but they also must meet all these narrow criteria that do little to address the underlying issues. Of course I'm generalizing but many of these organizations rather raise hell than actually pragmatically solve issues. Sex ed? No Adoption reform? No Contraception? No Welfare / WIC / SNAP availability? No Same sex adoptions? No Mixed race adoptions? No Parents who aren't religious? No At some point it just stops being pro-life and starts being pro-status quo. |
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