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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 18:49:19  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its his personal expenditures, stuff he has spent money on while in office. Its been going on for a long time, I would expect to see it come up in the next debate.

Ha! Talk about your phony scandals...
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 18:50:22  
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Great informational response. Very enlightening.

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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-05 18:50:25  
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Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

Seriously can you read? He clearly said nothing like that and for months has more than clarified for the intentionally dense.

It's just dishonest of you at this point.

The old liberal mantra:
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-05 18:50:26  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its his personal expenditures, stuff he has spent money on while in office. Its been going on for a long time, I would expect to see it come up in the next debate.

Ha! Talk about your phony scandals...

"Phony scandals" that the republicans are attacking him on.
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By Jassik 2015-11-05 18:52:37  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Jassik said: »
Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

Seriously can you read? He clearly said nothing like that and for months has more than clarified for the intentionally dense.

It's just dishonest of you at this point.

The old liberal mantra:
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!

Funny that same line of logic doesn't apply to the statements about Benghazi.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 18:55:03  
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Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

It's a flat out lie that he ever did.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 18:56:08  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its his personal expenditures, stuff he has spent money on while in office. Its been going on for a long time, I would expect to see it come up in the next debate.

Ha! Talk about your phony scandals...

"Phony scandals" that the republicans are attacking him on.
Right I'm sure Hillary wouldn't bring it up if she were to face him...

She's soooo honest and all.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-11-05 18:56:48  
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Is calling large groups of people racist promoting a hateful mentality?
Is this in reference to something? Who do the large groups specifically refer to?

Ultimately, the best way to deal with a prejudice is to change the mindset of the hateful person. If calling them out brings them awareness like "oh, I didn't realize I was being racist, I should think harder about what I'm doing", then no.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-05 18:58:02  
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Jassik said: »
Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

Seriously can you read? He clearly said nothing like that and for months has more than clarified for the intentionally dense.

It's just dishonest of you at this point.

Clarified? If by asking "Who is doing the raping" is clarification then ok! Its a waste of time to talk about Trump, but his comments about Mexican immigrants were stupid, dishonest, and full of hate. Similar to his tweet about Jeb Bush yesterday. All they accomplished was driving voters away from him and towards his opposition.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-05 18:58:45  
Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Jassik said: »
Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

Seriously can you read? He clearly said nothing like that and for months has more than clarified for the intentionally dense.

It's just dishonest of you at this point.

The old liberal mantra:
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!

Funny that same line of logic doesn't apply to the statements about Benghazi.

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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-05 18:58:52  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its his personal expenditures, stuff he has spent money on while in office. Its been going on for a long time, I would expect to see it come up in the next debate.

Ha! Talk about your phony scandals...

"Phony scandals" that the republicans are attacking him on.
Right I'm sure Hillary wouldn't bring it up if she were to face him...

She's soooo honest and all.

Nice deflection. She hasn't even mentioned them. But the republicans have, and will do so again in a few days at the debate.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 18:59:52  
Obligatory Ben Carson rap ad.

https://soundcloud.com/abcpolitics/ben-carson-radio-ad

He's gangsta yo!
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 19:01:28  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Its his personal expenditures, stuff he has spent money on while in office. Its been going on for a long time, I would expect to see it come up in the next debate.

Ha! Talk about your phony scandals...

"Phony scandals" that the republicans are attacking him on.
Right I'm sure Hillary wouldn't bring it up if she were to face him...

She's soooo honest and all.

Nice deflection. She hasn't even mentioned them. But the republicans have, and will do so again in a few days at the debate.

Do you really think Hillary wouldn't sic her dogs on that fake scandal? I realize she hasn't yet (to our obvious knowledge), but do you really hold her that high?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-05 19:08:00  
Having modest debt while raising a family is just one more thing that will help regular people relate to Marco Rubio.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-05 19:08:42  
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Do you really think Hillary wouldn't sic her dogs on that fake scandal? I realize she hasn't yet (to our obvious knowledge), but do you really hold her that high?

I think you are just trying to deflect. I expect everything to be attacked once the nominees are decided, but this is a republican led effort to smear Rubio and you are just trying to run damage control and as usual, its failing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-11-05 19:11:58  
Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Is calling large groups of people racist promoting a hateful mentality?
Is this in reference to something? Who do the large groups specifically refer to?

Ultimately, the best way to deal with a prejudice is to change the mindset of the hateful person. If calling them out brings them awareness like "oh, I didn't realize I was being racist, I should think harder about what I'm doing", then no.

Yes, because calling people racists, bigots, etc. is the best way to spread awareness. You know, like kindly putting gasoline on a campfire to encourage it to go out.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-05 19:12:39  
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Having modest debt while raising a family is just one more thing that will help regular people relate to Marco Rubio.
Make as much money as Trump = evil greedy 1%-er

Make as much money as Rubio = what's wrong with you, you shouldn't be pres.

I guess the only acceptable way to get rich is to sell political favors to foreign governments under the guise of having your ex president husband give $500k speeches.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-11-05 19:15:50  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sylph.Jeanpaul said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Is calling large groups of people racist promoting a hateful mentality?
Is this in reference to something? Who do the large groups specifically refer to?

Ultimately, the best way to deal with a prejudice is to change the mindset of the hateful person. If calling them out brings them awareness like "oh, I didn't realize I was being racist, I should think harder about what I'm doing", then no.
Yes, because calling people racists, bigots, etc. is the best way to spread awareness. You know, like kindly putting gasoline on a campfire to encourage it to go out.
Should I bold the word "If" next time?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-11-05 19:22:12  
I'm not sure it'd matter. I doubt labeling large groups of people with hateful rhetoric is ever the most effective method of changing their ways. Probably more counterproductive than anything.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-11-05 19:22:19  
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-05 19:31:03  
Debate lineup announced

Main stage - Trump, Carson, Rubio, Bush, Cruz, Fiorina, Kasich, Paul.

Undercard - Christie, Huckabee, Jindal, Santorum.

Undercard is a waste of time, put Christie back on the main stage and lose the other 3 completely.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-11-05 19:40:00  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
I'm not sure it'd matter. I doubt labeling large groups of people with hateful rhetoric is ever the most effective method of changing their ways. Probably more counterproductive than anything.
Generally speaking, I agree that it can generate some form of backlash, which was why I wanted Aman to respond with who these large groups were specifically. Also, I want to make sure we are keeping a distinction between the reaction from the person subjected, and the reaction from everyone else who hears it.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-06 08:29:04  
So, about that new Vatican scandal...about 500k €(most of it meant to be for charity) spent in only 6 months on apartments, cars and first class flights. Such honest people.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-11-06 08:44:00  
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Jassik said: »
Calling an entire nation rapists and drug traffickers sure does.

Seriously can you read? He clearly said nothing like that and for months has more than clarified for the intentionally dense.

It's just dishonest of you at this point.

The old liberal mantra:
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!
Repeat the lie!

Fine, fine.

Benghazi
Benghazi
Beetlejuice.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-11-06 08:44:48  
God helps those who help themselves.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-06 08:47:07  
Newest media narrative attacking Ben Carson: He didn't actually almost stab a guy in his youth.

He clearly is unqualified.....
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-11-06 08:49:17  
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God helps those who help themselves.

Helps themselves to the church coffers!
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-11-06 08:50:09  
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Newest media narrative attacking Ben Carson: He didn't actually almost stab a guy in his youth.

He clearly is unqualified.....

The idiotic statements about the pyramids makes Ancient Aliens look more and more legit.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-11-06 08:52:00  
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So I'm getting reports you guys aren't attacking the content and are attacking each other instead.

Honestly I'm tired of the P&R section causing problems and I'm more then willing to start handing out topic bans and more for those who continue to contribute to the toxic hell hole this becomes.

Consider this the warning, from here on out I'm not giving you warnings on your accounts (from P&R infractions) I will skip straight to topic bans and suspensions.

/stands up
It's all my fault....

every time they tried to pass a school levy to raise taxes to pay for the schools I voted against it...

at first they just cut dumb stuff like art and music...

but now we apparently don't even teach civics any more.... or english.... or science... or reading comprehension...

don't even get me started on math..

so I must take some responsibility....at least for the american kids over there that don't know how to use their words...or work/play well with others.

my bad
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-11-06 08:52:06  
The racist media trying to keep people in their place.
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