Guns, Girls, And WoW

Opening your essay with "My mom dated George Lucas" pretty much sinks any chance that the rest of your essay is taken seriously.

Also, who the *** cares about your early childhood. 0-3 really? tl;dr I peed and ***alot.

Well his writing is more interesting than 90% of facebook posts...I'll give him that.

Modern day version of Mein Kampf?

Final solution to the Female Question?

Hitler will be remember this kid will be forgotten in a week or two.

Hitler loved puppies. Bet you didn't know that.

If only this *** final solutioned himself in the safety of his bathroom rather than on innocent people.

Wow, you really do learn something new on FFXIAH everyday.

From what I read the "therapist" didn't do anything for him. Just like most Psychiatrists take this pill if that doesn't work take that pill.

I'm not saying he was a lost cause but from what I'm reading it seemed like a waste of time to even have him go to threapy.

So I tried to research this story to find out exactly how much money this guy had access to. I was trying to see if he could afford an island, hire a friend to 'manage' the guest list on the island, etc. But then I noticed each source is reporting anywhere between 137-143 pages depending on the source. Now I can't help but wonder what's up with that?

That song would make anyone "flip out"

Here is his dad : http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3201913/

Here's his official blog according to IMDB:
http://elliotrodger.blogspot.com/

/deep breath

Okay. So, this was my reading over the weekend since I didn't bring a book. Morbid curiosity is a double-edged sword.

I noticed that through out his childhood, a consistent theme that stood out to me was that his parents continually set up "playdates" and there was no mention of his just goofing off with neighborhood kids willy-nilly until he was ten or so. That interaction was also forced by his step-mother who finally sent him down with his nanny. As a kid, how do you not just simply go outside and play? Why was play always orchestrated by his parents and not by his own natural desire as a kid?

He only mentions his sister as a matter of incident in different circumstances through out his childhood. You would think that a person who your primary source of socialization, never mind socialization among the opposite sex, would have more of an impact on you. His mother, to him, seemed like more of a utilitarian resource than a mother. If anything, that was clear when he attempted to push his mother into a marriage that would benefit him and his status, especially after his father's follies in investments.

It also sickened me toward the end when, in his ultimate plan, he mentioned the murder of his half-brother, the person whose birth he was so enthusiastic about in his early teens, along with his step-mother. As far as his step-mother was depicted in his early years, it seems as though she was doling out a level of discipline that he had never been confronted with before, and none of it was outrageous.

I also find it laughable that he basically ran away from every problem. He changed roommates like underwear, and good God! That kid was racist! Run of the mill ribbings between guys obviously didn't register with him. He constantly internalized those instances as a slight against him, just as he did with the goofy childhood interactions with the lady folk that he misinterpreted and slung over his shoulder until he was towing a tank of misguided discontent.

I'm going to preface this with, hey! I might be some *** that deserves to be shot or stabbed, but you have nothing to offer girls (personality, humor, intelligence, looks (and that's up to individual preference)), so dropping your classes semester after semester and banking on winning the lottery makes sense, right?

His poor mother. She encouraged him to be a writer too. Did anyone who actually read his manifesto find that funny?

/exhale

When people wish to see the worst side of their own history, as a means of justifying the ***-ish things they do to others, they will. Chances are pretty good he was writing that entire manifesto with some 300 dollar, ***-tinted sunglasses. The amount of stuff written does tell a story of victimization, and social awkwardness, but any psychologist, or even any writer of any reknown would look at the things that have been omitted, or where there are obviously plot holes and inconsistencies.

However, this manifesto is emotionally charged on multiple sides - his own view of victimization, the victims of his "rampaging vengeance against women", and the emotional outcries that come from those trying to make a political martyr out of the situation, as well as those who feel justifiable outrage (in their minds, and/or socially acceptable) for this even happening, let alone being conceivable.

My childhood was similar, but that's because I'm autistic and don't feel the same impulse to socialization as normal people. Elliot Rodger, on the other hand, got shuffled around from place to place often and rarely got a chance to feel settled. His social awkwardness is readily attributable to that problem. Come to that, when my family moved halfway across the country just before my 8th birthday, that *** me up but good since the people I did socialize with (my many, many same-aged cousins) were now long gone. Go figure, that's when I started to read books.

And there's the problem of his being privileged. Like I said way back on the first page or so, someone is going to attribute this to "affluenza" and I'm starting to think they'll be right.

His parents honestly would've done a lot better to keep him an only child. Then he'd do what all only children do: learn how to socialize with adults, be somewhat miserable and tightly-wound, but some 33-year-old woman would've at least *** raped him by the time he turned 16.

I am a little amazed, having finally watched his videos, that he couldn't manage to score. He was reasonably attractive and he had money. I don't have either and I've been able to get phone numbers from women and men, sometimes unsolicited (related note: what the hell am I supposed to do when a woman gives me her number?). And although I'm not an alpha douchebag, I do have a pretty obnoxious personality, so we should be at par there. If he could be examined by a proper psychologist, I guarantee the answer would be that he intentionally sabotaged himself, though not consciously.

Actually, no. The quality of his writing is amateurish, but it was coherent and organized. Compared to most of the jibberish that others like him produce, he's Shakespeare. Had he actually pursued writing, he could've made it into a career, probably in a field like journalism or something. And sexist, racist *** get published all the time, too, so that wouldn't have held him back.

(A small, earnest smile and "I'm gay." would probably suffice just fine. I understand the difficulty in that, all things considered, but that's the nicest, most concise way.)

This little crybaby pussy is whats wrong with the world. Bunch of little spoiled shits thinking they are entitled to everything and that everything should be handed to them.

Admittedly, I might be out of the loop, but has it been confirmed that Rodgers is autistic, to a lesser degree? I volunteered in high school (when it wasn't vogue) and a couple of years in college and I don't take people lightly who scream, "Autism!", at the top of their lungs as a convenient excuse for social anxiety. (Not saying you, but in the case of Rodgers.)

I noticed the inconsistency with a secure "home" in his childhood also, but I was unnerved by him begrudging his father's loss that effected his mother's child support payments. Then, he begrudged his mother because she couldn't afford to live in a place he deemed acceptable by his standards, despite his age. You should be able to comprehend that type of loss from your parents in your late teens.

I think you're dead on with the assumption about "affluenza". It's an obvious trend in his "manifesto".

As far as the only-child remark, how do you anticipate that you're going to have a child that's a complete sociopath? That brings me back to his lack of thoughts about his sister. Most siblings do have a loving connection below the surface that doesn't bubble up until your teens when you can really appreciate it. You go through the same trials with your parents which makes the bond even stronger. Personally (and this is kind of superfluous, but since we're dropping anecdotes), if a guy has a strained relationship with his parents, I look to his interactions and the strength of the bonds with his sibling/s before I deem the relationship a "lost cause". I've dated a couple of guys whose parents went through messy divorces that were gossip fodder around town, and effected them indirectly but tremendously. Although their relationships with their siblings were solid, I don't think I could stay with them if they didn't have that. That might be because I had a solid relationship with my brother though, despite my parents' ups and downs.

After reading the plan and the epilogue, I don't think I can stomach Youtube videos on the matter. That was tough enough to get through.

Dude needs a thesaurus. Sorry. "Slob" and "obnoxious" were the go-to words for every guy who had healthy relationships with girls. He hated "fat" guys who could pull, he hated African-American guys who could pull, he hate Mexican-American guys (and automatically associated them with gang activity) who could pull, he hated Asian guys who could pull. He hated his sister's boyfriend for "eating his mothers food" and being invited to their trip to the UK, because he was "inferior", even though Rodgers, himself, was dropping classes and leaching off of his parents with no return in their investment.

I looked at pictures of Rodgers after reading his manifesto. I was annoyed with him by simply reading. He is kind of a ***stain, and I think the girls around him intuitively knew he was.

Funny thing is, social policing like this is used to reinforce the notion of masculinity that America prescribes to, and that is largely one of the causes of this incident - a screwed up world view.

Didnt read all the 5 pages, but willing to bet not one person has mentioned the number one main problem...

Bad parenting.................. case closed.

I would put it on poor fathering skills to be more precise. Don't know for sure though as I didn't read his manifesto.

Or lack of.

Mothering is also important, and in this case, I'd wager it is more important than a father's role. Mothers are a boy's vantage point into femininity, and that's where this guy's perspective was clearly distorted. Either could've obviously stopped this by raising the kid proper, but too little too late.

Mothers teach you to respect and understand women, fathers teach you how to get and treat women. Or at least that's my guess.

That's how it used to be.

Most of my relatives no longer subscribe to this "archaic" way of thinking, because it's too old fashioned to show any kind of courtesy or chivalry for anyone, let alone someone of the opposite gender.

I was never taught respect or understanding for women at home, but somehow, I managed to develop it. I had quite an interesting, if not troubling upbringing at home, that should have left me completely damaged and scarred as I have an incredibly strained relationship with everyone in my family.

Thankfully though, I managed to end the cycle of violence on my own terms, without putting up incriminating youtube videos, that would have seen me locked in a mental ward, or seeing court ordered psychologists for help. Since Mental Health is taken more seriously in Canada, though the difference in seriousness is still up for debate.

I don't really assume that I am well balanced, but I'm not so out of touch with reality, that I blame everyone else for my inabilities and insecurities.

Chivalry died with the feminist movement. I got sick of moving chairs and opening doors only to have women screech about how they don't need my help.


At least, that's the cliche' right?

Based on his writing and videos, I would be strongly disinclined to trust that diagnosis, at least any attempt to make it post facto. Everyone is a little different, but high-function autists who are more aware of their social needs tend to get frustrated by inconsistencies in the rules of social interaction, though they still can learn them. This kid apparently never even figured out step one of the process, so I'm very dubious.

He was clearly a narcissist, though. That's a word I am cautious about throwing around, but I can't imagine a more textbook example of the disorder. Unlike a more balanced person, he seems to have only wanted the 10s to talk to him and, let's be honest, even other 10s have difficulty pulling those people. And he'd have found a way to complain even if an exceptional woman was interested in him. He should've committed suicide, but the world is never so lucky.

Notice how no one knows anything about the victims thanks CNN.

(other than they were college students)