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 Bismarck.Ariyon
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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2014-05-25 16:59:20  
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I really dislike that simplification. The trivialization says more about you than about him.
Do tell. I'm curious what you think it says about me.

That you'd sooner:

A) take the time to offer up your ill-informed and oversimplified opinion on an online game forum

than

B) read a long-winded autobiography that might lead you to something insightful and worthy of contribution on the aforementioned forum.
I have no problem reading any form of long-winded narrative, as I find sitting down and reading for a few hours quite enjoyable, so I have no idea how you can automatically assume that I'm not going to bother reading it at all.

As for B... if we're restricting this to insightful and "worthy" contributions, do you want to be the pot or the kettle?
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-25 17:06:02  
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B) read a long-winded autobiography that might lead you to something insightful and worthy of contribution on the aforementioned forum.
It won't. He literally chose a definitionally insane response to stressors that humans have faced individually and collectively for 100,000 years. At most, the insight to be had is that insane people are insane. I'm sure it will be of considerable interest to clinical psychologists and people who aid the non-rational, but we're none of us those people.

What gem are you expecting to find in there? Unless half his university had personally tied him up and castrated him, I doubt anything revealed will illuminate rational thinking because there was no rationality involved.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-25 17:13:27  
Discussion people will have: Guns.

Discussion people should have: Mental Illness.



Fact: As horrible as this is, crime (including Violent Crime) is still on the decline. We must be doing something right..?


Comedic Response: See what happens when girls don't put out? It's every woman's responsibility to have sex with at least one assburger in their lifetime. Think of all the people you'll save.
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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2014-05-25 17:14:45  
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Comedic Response: See what happens when girls don't put out? It's every woman's responsibility to have sex with at least one assburger in their lifetime. Think of all the people you'll save.
I laughed a little. Shouldn't have, but did anyways. Thanks Zic, I needed that.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-25 17:18:24  
This calls for some Leela having sex with Zapp Brannigan.

The Ultimate Assburger.
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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2014-05-25 17:38:01  
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The Ultimate Assburger.
Sounds like a good name for a reality show. Someone pitch it to MTV and VH1.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-25 18:01:23  
Aspies (like me, shitheads -- do you think you're clever?) can and do get laid, though we're often considerably less stressed out about it than neurotypical people.

If you actually read this kid's autobiography, he seems to be normal rather than autistic. He socialized reasonably well by his own account, though he didn't interpret it that way, but was a klutz with girls. He suffered considerable inadequacy issues (I only skimmed the thing, but I'll bet easy money he either had or thought he had a tiny penis on top of whining about being short) and buried himself in video games, but he didn't portray himself as particularly abnormal.

Actually, I may as well say it: reading his manifesto is basically identical to reading The Catcher in the Rye. The sole difference between Elliot Rodger and Holden Caulfield is that Holden prefers to be self-destructive, which is the more usual route these cases take.
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By fonewear 2014-05-25 18:16:43  
I tried reading his thing but it was boring. He should have written a cliff notes version.
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By fonewear 2014-05-25 18:18:56  
Assburger I believe is the way South Park made fun of Asperger syndrome.

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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2014-05-25 18:30:25  
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Assburger I believe is the way South Park made fun of Asperger syndrome.
Well don't I feel like a *** now...
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By fonewear 2014-05-25 18:31:30  
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Assburger I believe is the way South Park made fun of Asperger syndrome.
Well don't I feel like a *** now...

Don't worry you get used to it...


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By Bismarck.Ariyon 2014-05-25 18:37:03  
Maybe. I was operating under the assumption that they were just referring to them as assburgers. (Which they might've been, I dunno.)
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By fonewear 2014-05-25 18:42:21  
This kid could have had Asperger's syndrome. That or a narcissistic personality disorder.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-25 19:05:03  
Bismarck.Ariyon said: »
Maybe. I was operating under the assumption that they were just referring to them as assburgers. (Which they might've been, I dunno.)


I certainly was, I make no apologies since hate is in the context not the arbitrary words. This is something the Politically correct movement fails to grasp.

Everyone has flaws, and once every adjective of a flaw is banned speech, nobody will be saying anything at all. Again; react to the context, not the word.

Don't let other people make you feel bad because you have a sense of humor about the world.

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This kid could have had Asperger's syndrome. That or a narcissistic personality disorder.

The later sounds most likely. But they broaden the definition of the autistic spectrum almost weekly, to the point where people who even have a slight introvert preference are considered on the higher end of the autistic spectrum.
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By Jetackuu 2014-05-25 19:34:05  
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I think the individuals who want to do nothing but harm would probably just switch to explosives, I mean they're pretty easy to make as it is.
Explosives were used at Columbine, but that was (mercifully) one of the most deliberately planned incidents, even as we rapidly approach 20 years since it happened.

Most of these rampages don't have the air of someone interested in doing extensive and randomized damage. That is the MO of terrorism, whereas these attacks are, as this kid emphasizes, about retribution. There's a more personal element involved, hence why so much of the killing tends to happen face-to-face. A sniper (e.g., the DC sniper a few years back) would be more effective in the long-term than randomly spraying rounds at a sorority, but it wouldn't serve the motives of most school shooters.

And even if explosives are "easy" to manufacture, they're also rather easy to screw up, they have to be set up or lugged around, and anyone who has actually studied them knows that they're nothing like as destructive, pound-for-pound, as Hollywood would have us believe. There's a reason why the Oklahoma City bomber used a truck.

If someone wanted to just cause randomized damage, all they'd need to do is get some minimal CDL training and hijack a garbage truck. Get that thing running up to 70 MPH and crash it into a Starbucks or something. Mercifully, we don't have many domestic terrorists interested in the message that sends. We here in the US do regularly forget, though, that not all countries are so lucky.
I understand the passion involved and wanting to watch one's victim's die, which if I were to do it is probably why I'd use a bladed weapon, guns are too impersonal.

But the best way in my opinion would be to use a bunch of smaller explosives with shrapnel, or to do some sort of chemical warfare.

I'm just glad I'm not insane, and actually do have at least a bit of empathy for others, even if it's just a tiny bit. I guess it's grown a bit more in the past 2 years though.
 
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-05-26 01:35:36  
i don't understand why none of these people try to break the record of 44 in their mass murdering shenanigans *** underachievers
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By Bismarck.Artamas 2014-05-26 02:09:27  
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What a self involved ***. 140 pages of "The world did me wrong!"

It's not even "The world did me wrong" if you give it a read... its just him Q_Q'n for 140 pages about how privlidged his life was and how he was a spoiled brat who wanted to get laid.

We all grew up with awkward social situation, some of us the outcast *cough* (me) - and I didn't get guns in 3 cities and drive around town shooting up all the yuppies.

He is an spoiled brat whit no social or coping skills who even admits its all about the Pu*** and how he couldn't get any.

Just food for though - how much was his allowance that he was able to LEGALLY BUY 3 handguns PLUS over the 400 round of ammo they found left over? That's what... like $900 - $1.5k for the guys and idk about the ammo.

I wish my parents would have paid over 2k in allowance every year. Hellz yeah id still be living at home drinking that sh** in.
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By Sieha1 2014-05-26 02:22:49  
I watched the video and I have to admit, my mouth fell open. Even more so after I read most of this 140 page thingy. So it boils down to he didnt get what he wanted so he threw a fit. seems he has been doing that all of his 22 years. Also I couldnt help but think how full of himself he was by the video. He would even pose to look cool.

I can understand wanting to fit in or looking to some kids as a model but he was trying to be awesome when he really was a kid with a problem that no one realized.

However part of this is also the unrealistic ideal that boys should have sex as early as possible and if you havent had it before the end of college then you are screwed. Same goes for a girl friend.

The media will blame guns and video games but I say blame pop culture.

also... someone could just be screwing with us. Looking at the recent mass shootings by misunderstood young people. Seems to be a pattern, its going thru all the different social groups and economic tiers. The only common theme is rejection and unfulfilled desires.

Maybe if he had another role model to follow, like a big brother this all could have been avoided.

donate to your local Big Brother, Big Sister foundation and prevent killing sprees today.
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 06:24:37  
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I watched the video and I have to admit, my mouth fell open. Even more so after I read most of this 140 page thingy. So it boils down to he didnt get what he wanted so he threw a fit. seems he has been doing that all of his 22 years. Also I couldnt help but think how full of himself he was by the video. He would even pose to look cool.

I can understand wanting to fit in or looking to some kids as a model but he was trying to be awesome when he really was a kid with a problem that no one realized.

However part of this is also the unrealistic ideal that boys should have sex as early as possible and if you havent had it before the end of college then you are screwed. Same goes for a girl friend.

The media will blame guns and video games but I say blame pop culture.

also... someone could just be screwing with us. Looking at the recent mass shootings by misunderstood young people. Seems to be a pattern, its going thru all the different social groups and economic tiers. The only common theme is rejection and unfulfilled desires.

Maybe if he had another role model to follow, like a big brother this all could have been avoided.

donate to your local Big Brother, Big Sister foundation and prevent killing sprees today.

How about his parents ? You know the people that are supposed to raise him.
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 06:34:34  
Also please don't use this "tragedy" to push feminism.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/25/yesallwomen-responds-to-santa-barbara-shooter-s-misogyny.html
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 06:36:44  
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i don't understand why none of these people try to break the record of 44 in their mass murdering shenanigans *** underachievers

Because kids are lazier these days.
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By Bahamut.Aelissa 2014-05-26 06:59:39  
this is a typical lazy/spoiled rich kid that went of the rails
cause nobody would give the one thing he could have bought the easyest... i mean your a son of a director, don't tell me he never got any girls attention for that >_>; either he was looking for pure 10's or just didn't realise it when somebody would come onto him...
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 07:02:42  
He should have tried e harmony maybe meet another rich spoiled woman and live happily ever after.

I'm lonely and miserable sometimes I don't plan on killing anyone though.

He should have had a hobby how about riding a bike ?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-26 07:17:00  
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However part of this is also the unrealistic ideal that boys should have sex as early as possible and if you havent had it before the end of college then you are screwed. Same goes for a girl friend.
A huge problem with American society today, perhaps a large portion of other countries too.

I don't know if you can blame pop culture for this, as it affects people on a deeply psychological level that they may never be able to recover from. It's part of growing up, so perhaps not a lot to do with culture, more biology than anything.

Not being in a relationship before you leave high school, seems to alienate you from anyone you were friends with to the point where it really seems like they don't want have anything to do with you unless you have a girlfriend and/or married. I honestly don't know the precise reason, as I get told I'm crossing a line when I attempt to question any part of this phenomenon.

From personal experience I can tell you what it's like not getting 'laid' from a male's perspective until college, I can understand why people lose their minds and either kill themselves or kill others. It really drives you that crazy. Personally I just did a lot of heroin and pretty much every drug known and some unknown. Seemed like the smartest thing to do, as it only harmed me. Hey, it worked, I survived and graduated with two degrees.

I'm not sure if having a single parent from the age of 13, only a mother, played a role either. As I knew a friend who's father was still alive, but instead ran off the Florida when he was way younger and didn't talk to him much until college. He too had the engineer's brain, but he resort to doing a lot of LSD and shrooms.

Without going into too many more personal details, I should consider myself luckily I at least got to experience having sex before entering the real world after college. The only damaging effect I suffered is that I've never been in relationship, ever. Don't know why, don't know how, most likely will never know as any friend I have disappears when they get close with someone, so there's really no one to learn from. All I can do target the early 20's girls that aren't looking for a relationship. Gets expensive and boring after awhile though.

I've witnessed this problem in people who had both parents too, he didn't get laid until after college though. Dude is a mess now, haven't spoken to him since 2 years ago. Don't even know if he's alive. All he would do is just get furious all the time. Average intelligence though, so who knows.

Ultimately I just chalk it up to survival.
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By Bahamut.Aelissa 2014-05-26 07:19:00  
he was too lazy for hobby's or jobs ;P
(i finished the 140 pages i'm home with a bad knee so i have nothing better to do lol)
he quit like 3 hobby's because it stopped being cool or somebody he knew was better at it then him
he quit a job somebody arranged him because it was "beneath him" to clean bathrooms... and from what i could figure out he never finished school neither ;P

the only thing he prob. had was sad mastrubation in a pile of dollar bills... (wich actually kinda sounds fun XD)

but yeah like i said rich kid going of the rails
I can't blaim the parents for it, you don't know if they ever talked to him about jobs ect. how life is on your own...
and from what i could get in the pages he was scared about his mom finding out he quit that bathroom job... My guess is he never learned to deal with emotions of the reall world, it's sad that people had to die because of him (but it always is sad when a person decides the only way to get your frustrations out is by killing random people).
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 07:19:31  
I think sex was the least of these kids troubles. He had deeper issues that needed to be resolved. Even if he would have had a girlfriend. She probably would have ended up dead.
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 07:20:09  
Bahamut.Aelissa said: »
he was too lazy for hobby's or jobs ;P
(i finished the 140 pages i'm home with a bad knee so i have nothing better to do lol)
he quit like 3 hobby's because it stopped being cool or somebody he knew was better at it then him
he quit a job somebody arranged him because it was "beneath him" to clean bathrooms... and from what i could figure out he never finished school neither ;P

the only thing he prob. had was sad mastrubation in a pile of dollar bills... (wich actually kinda sounds fun XD)

but yeah like i said rich kid going of the rails
I can't blaim the parents for it, you don't know if they ever talked to him about jobs ect. how life is on your own...
and from what i could get in the pages he was scared about his mom finding out he quit that bathroom job... My guess is he never learned to deal with emotions of the reall world, it's sad that people had to die because of him (but it always is sad when a person decides the only way to get your frustrations out is by killing random people).

I need dollar bills and lotion now...
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By fonewear 2014-05-26 07:21:07  
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Sieha1 said: »
However part of this is also the unrealistic ideal that boys should have sex as early as possible and if you havent had it before the end of college then you are screwed. Same goes for a girl friend.
A huge problem with American society today, perhaps a large portion of other countries too.

I don't know if you can blame pop culture for this, as it affects people on a deeply psychological level that they may never be able to recover from. It's part of growing up, so perhaps not a lot to do with culture, more biology than anything.

Not being in a relationship before you leave high school, seems to alienate you from anyone you were friends with to the point where it really seems like they don't want have anything to do with you unless you have a girlfriend and/or married. I honestly don't know the precise reason, as I get told I'm crossing a line when I attempt to question any part of this phenomenon.

From personal experience I can tell you what it's like not getting 'laid' from a male's perspective until college, I can understand why people lose their minds and either kill themselves or kill others. It really drives you that crazy. Personally I just did a lot of heroin and pretty much every drug known and some unknown. Seemed like the smartest thing to do, as it only harmed me. Hey, it worked, I survived and graduated with two degrees.

I'm not sure if having a single parent from the age of 13, only a mother, played a role either. As I knew a friend who's father was still alive, but instead ran off the Florida when he was way younger and didn't talk to him much until college. He too had the engineer's brain, but he resort to doing a lot of LSD and shrooms.

Without going into too many more personal details, I should consider myself luckily I at least got to experience having sex before entering the real world after college. The only damaging effect I suffered is that I've never been in relationship, ever. Don't know why, don't know how, most likely will never know as any friend I have disappears when they get close with someone, so there's really no one to learn from. All I can do target the early 20's girls that aren't looking for a relationship. Gets expensive and boring after awhile though.

I've witnessed this problem in people who had both parents too, he didn't get laid until after college though. Dude is a mess now, haven't spoken to him since 2 years ago. Don't even know if he's alive. All he would do is just get furious all the time. Average intelligence though, so who knows.

Ultimately I just chalk it up to survival.

He should have seen what my high school experience was like...
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-26 07:21:43  
Dumb people not getting laid with a ton of money = disaster.
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