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 Leviathan.Chaosx
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-05 22:08:52  
Here is a nice piece that will hopefully make you think, "What is going on here?"

As some of you may be aware of, Dennis Rodman has been making a number of trips to the communist country known as North Korea. In a piece by DuJour magazine, he claims that Kim Jong-Un's uncle was never executed or fed to any dogs.

He goes on by saying that he now fears that the U.S., not the DPRK, will prevent him from going back home in the future.

When you read the whole interview, he even address his take on the labor camps there.

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A focal point in any international relationship is always context. Has Mr. Rodman stumbled upon a venture that really has allowed him to see North Korea as the people there see it? Or is he being misled by Kim Jong-Un?

If the U.S. government has warned him repeatedly that he may not be let back into the country, for what purpose does this serve? Would not the U.S. want him to return to the country that has not only made his wealth, but that he claims to love so much?

There is of course the side of all these stories given at face value. If Mr. Rodman has stumbled upon something unique, what exactly is it?

It really makes you wonder what exactly is the purpose of foreign ambassadors today if it took a celebrity basketball player to finally get a U.S. citizen welcomed into the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea? Should the U.S. embark on a new capitalist style of foreign relations, rather than career diplomats who only learn about the country they go to at home? Is on-the-fly diplomacy the wave of the future?
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The story as reported by Huffington Post:
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Former basketball star Dennis Rodman says North Korean leader Kim Jong Un did not execute his uncle Jang Song Thaek.

In fact, Rodman says he saw Thaek on one of his famous trips to North Korea.

North Korean state media confirmed in December 2013 Thaek was purged on allegations of corruption, drug use and a long list of other "anti-state" acts. Reports from North Korean state media claimed he was executed.
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An excerpt from the DuJour Magazine interview:
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DJ: Have you ever seen anything alarming in your time there?

DR: It’s just like any other country, you go to Russia, Germany, you’re gonna see soldiers all over the place. You see soldiers that carry guns and sit at the airports. It’s just like that.

DJ: But the difference is that in North Korea there are hundreds of thousands of people suffering and starving in labor camps.

DR: You name any country in the world… Which country does not have that ***? Every country has that.
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There are more questions than answers here. Is Rodman being deceived? Has he found a new style of international diplomacy? Is this the newest trend in capitalism? Remember he claims not to get paid by the North Korean government, meaning he goes there on his own free will.

Are even the stories of labor camps real, or perhaps exaggerated?

And the big question: Can celebrities make good foreign ambassadors?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-05 22:28:00  
There is no reason to believe anything Dennis Rodman says. Of course he is being used, but he doesn't care and we really don't either.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-05 22:30:19  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
There is no reason to believe anything Dennis Rodman says. Of course he is being used, but he doesn't care and we really don't either.
If he is spending his own money going there, who exactly is using him then?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-05-05 22:34:34  
Obviously the guy that has done numerous photo ops with him while over there. And he was definitely being paid to go there his first few trips. I don't know or care if he has gone recently, I wish they would keep him.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-05 22:35:04  
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Obviously the guy that has done numerous photo ops with him while over there. And he was definitely being paid to go there his first few trips. I don't know or care if he has gone recently, I wish they would keep him.
You might get your wish if he does continue.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-05-05 22:36:52  
Known attention *** attention ***.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-05 22:41:53  
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Known attention *** attention ***.
What *** doesn't like attention? For that matter aren't we all ***?
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By Jetackuu 2014-05-05 23:06:05  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Known attention *** attention ***.
What *** doesn't like attention? For that matter aren't we all ***?
I'd say "Only you Chaos, only you" but that's not true.

But you're a pretty big *** sir.
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By fonewear 2014-05-05 23:13:54  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Known attention *** attention ***.
What *** doesn't like attention? For that matter aren't we all ***?

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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-05-05 23:15:53  
North Korea fools its entire population into praising The Great Leader and The Dear Leader. You think they can't fool one formerly-kind-of-famous-athlete into thinking everything's all peachy?


If you want proof of the decrepit state of North Korea, you only need to look at the soldiers stationed at the DMZ. The maladies of a famine state are on display to anyone with a pair of binoculars. And the soldiers at the DMZ are supposed to represent the "Face" of the North Korean military, who knows how bad it is in the hidden heart of the nation.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-05-06 07:50:53  
Dennis Rodman isn't exactly the brightest crayon in the box. Fools will be fooled.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-06 07:59:53  
At this point, I think he may have swallowed a few of the brightest crayons in the box.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-05-06 08:39:47  
Can celebrities make good foreign ambassadors by being allowed to freely visit any country they chose?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-05-06 08:43:11  
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Can celebrities make good foreign ambassadors by being allowed to freely visit any country they chose?
Only if they donate enough money to the right president.
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By fonewear 2014-05-06 08:58:38  
I always take foreign affair advice from a guy that wore a wedding dress.

Get on my level son:

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By fonewear 2014-05-06 09:04:18  
Basketball is serious business.

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By Siren.Mosin 2014-05-06 10:56:37  
I think Rodman is just dumb, & this is his attempt at philanthropy. I think he truly believes that basketball can bring us closer together as two nations, even though he is horribly wrong.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-05-06 11:09:36  
It could be worse. Kim Jong Un could be best buds with Kanye West.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-06 11:10:38  
Fenrir.Atheryn said: »
It could be worse. Kim Jong Un could be best buds with Kanye West.
They could be secret best buds.
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By Shiva.Gib 2014-05-06 11:11:04  
Taking Political advice from Dennis Rodman is like taking Vaccine advice from Jenny McCarthy.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-05-06 11:14:28  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
They could be secret best buds.

we'll know for sure if he names his son something dumb like "Kim Chi"
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-05-06 11:22:16  
Well, he did name his daughter "North"...
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-06 11:22:43  
Siren.Mosin said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
They could be secret best buds.

we'll know for sure if he names his son something dumb like "Kim Chi"
Didn't Kanye already name one of his sons "North West"?

Edit: It was his daughter, not his son.

Still pretty stupid.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-05-06 11:24:13  
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
They could be secret best buds.

we'll know for sure if he names his son something dumb like "Kim Chi"
Didn't Kanye already name his daughter "North West"?
Yes.
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-05-06 11:25:01  
hence the kimchi joke.

my talents are wasted here!

or it wasn't a very good joke....

hmmmm.....
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-06 11:27:20  
Siren.Mosin said: »
hence the kimchi joke.

my talents are wasted here!

or it wasn't a very good joke....

hmmmm.....
Wasn't very good. Mostly because it doesn't tie into his name in any way at all.

"Kim chi West" doesn't roll off the tongue...

Could call him "East Meets West" in reference...
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By Siren.Mosin 2014-05-06 11:31:57  
KIM JONG UN!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

/killsself
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-05-06 11:38:00  
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I never imagined that the United states government could tell it's citizens "yeah go travel but whoa if you go visit this country or that country we might not let you back in!"

But I guess it makes sense if you really don't like a country or agree with their leadership, trying to control your citizens etc
Sadly, they can do that, if travelling to X country poses a defensive threat for various reasons.

Some of those reasons are ***, but when a (laughable) figure with a large enough following buys into dangerous, backwards, and obvious propaganda, which ultimately serves to destroy his own country from within... they can stop and detain him at the borders.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-05-06 12:23:12  
Siren.Mosin said: »
I think Rodman is just dumb, & this is his attempt at philanthropy. I think he truly believes that basketball can bring us closer together as two nations, even though he is horribly wrong.
It might help if he weren't trying to unite a nation full of 7' tall African people with a nation of 5' tall Asian people.
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