ACA Reaches Sign Up Goal Of 7.1 Million...

You guys are sad: it was drafted by the Heritage Group then championed by Bob Dole in his 94 campaign. Dole lost pretty handedly and everything supported by him was dropped by the party, (except viagra). That's the way the political cookie crumbles. Everything is a popularity contest when it comes to politics.

More like the majority of republicans said no to it for 20 years cause they thought it was b.s. Just because a small group of republicans write something doesn't mean they all approve.

um... yes, again I dropped that point and was talking about something else entirely when you brought it back up, and I corrected you because you were wrong. I don't give a ***why it wasn't brought to the floor, that's the difference.

You're the one who keeps bringing up something I already had dropped...

I'm sorry, since when is 11 months shoving anything through, even by legislative standards.

You dont give a ***why it wasn't, that is the difference.

I was unaware things could be brought up, proven wrong with no evidence and then dropped on these forums.. Sounds pretty Obamalike to me.

Your reading comprehension is lacking something to be desired for.

@Amandarius: Except that doesn't answer Jassik's question. The legislation has been going round and round for a long time. The phrase "shoved through" implies something more akin to, say, the USAPATRIOT Act (which was bipartisan-supported, I know, but was introduced and passed in the blink of an eye in spite of having numerous grossly unconstitutional provisions and a variety of damaging legislative endruns around citizens' rights).

Would've been nice if the Republicans would ever come to the table and actually compromise instead of forcing the same super-shady tactics they have no shame about using. It's a self-feeding cycle of corruption and disingenuous to permit it for one side and condemn for the other.

That must be it, because everything you say sounds exactly the same to me.

98 out of 100 Senators voted for the Patriot Act. It passed the House 357 to 66. You cannot even compare the two processes. It's really silly.

It took them months to get all the Democrats herded up. They couldn't pass the House until they did.

98 out of 100 Senators voted for the Patriot Act. It passed the House 357 to 66. You cannot even compare the two processes. It's really silly.

Its no use talking to these people, when you start gaining ground they start calling you names and attacking your education. Its kinda funny after awhile.

I didn't call you names, but you haven't been able to follow the conversation at hand, so I merely made an observation that your reading comprehension skills are lacking, as apparently they are as you cannot follow the conversations at hand.

So go ahead and keep playing the victim when you try to talk with adults when you obviously aren't ready.

Its funny that you appeal for sympathy from the one poster who is guilty of calling people who do not agree with him every manner of HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

I was appealing to the person who says stupid stuff at my reading level. So I'm going to be a cry baby

I was appealing to the person who is making sense. So obviously he is about to get ganged up on by you guys and ***will insue.

Brown was elected in a 2010 special election to finish the term of the late-Sen. Edward Kennedy. When Kennedy died on Aug. 25, 2009, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick appointed a Democrat, Paul Kirk, to hold his seat. State law requires a special election for federal seats to be held between 145 and 160 days of when the vacancy occurred -- or in the case of Kennedy’s seat somewhere between Jan. 17, 2010, and Feb. 1, 2010.

Massachusetts’ election was Jan. 19, 2010, the first Tuesday in that window. Brown, who had campaigned on being the 41st vote against the health care legislation, defeated Democrat Martha Coakley by a vote of 52 percent to 47 percent.

Brown’s victory did not mean he could just move to Capitol Hill and start casting votes the next day. Brown was sworn in Feb. 4, 2010, 16 days after his election.

Was his swearing-in ceremony delayed?

No.

Cities and towns in Massachusetts have 15 days to send final results to the Massachusetts Secretary of State, including a 10-day window for counting absentee and overseas ballots.

"It wasn’t delayed," said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for Secretary of State William Galvin. "This process had to be done."

In fact, Brown was sworn in a week earlier than he had planned, according to media reports. After receiving criticism of his "three-week victory lap" from a newspaper columnist, he wrote state officials asking for his election results to be certified immediately. The results were certified by the governor’s council and sent to the U.S. Senate "as soon as the ink was dry," McNiff said.

Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill

So if anything, Brown’s swearing-in actually came a week earlier than originally planned. But what about the Democrats in Washington? Did they scramble to pass health care reform before Brown took his seat?

Again, no.

Weeks before Brown’s election, the Senate had already passed its version of health care reform, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, on Dec. 24, 2009, on a 60-39 vote. (Kirk voted yes.)

But the legislation needed to pass the House, and House Democratic leaders wanted to make changes that echoed their priorities. Problem was, any big changes to the Senate bill would send it back to the upper chamber for final approval, where the 39 Republicans and the newly elected Brown could now filibuster the bill.

Top Democrats wondered what to do. One option widely reported before Brown’s election was to pass the health care law before Brown took his seat. But on Jan. 20, 2010, the day after Brown’s election, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nv., took that plan off the table.

"We’re going to wait until the new senator arrives until we do anything more on health care," Reid said.

In the end, the House passed the Senate bill on March 21, 2013. On that same day, the House passed a slew of their own measures in a separate bill, which the Senate passed March 25, 2010, through a filibuster-proof process known as reconciliation.

One last point: Brown’s 16-day wait from election to swearing-in is in line with other recent Senate special elections. New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker was elected after the death of Sen. Frank Lautenberg on Oct. 16, 2013, and sworn in 15 days later on Oct. 31, 2013. And Massachusetts Sen. Ed Markey won the special election to replace John Kerry on June 25, 2013, and did not take the oath of office until July 16, 2013 -- 21 days later.

ftfy, again

So go ahead and keep playing the victim when you try to talk with adults when you obviously aren't ready.

This is how.

Using budget reconciliation to bypass a Senate vote with then elected Senator Scott Brown from Massachusetts whose voters elected him to replace Ted Kennedy and become the first republican Senator from MA in 30 years for the sole purpose of voting against Obamacare. How did it pass the Senate beforehand while Ted Kennedy was dead? Well, the Democrats in control on MA changed their state laws after his death and instead of holding a special election to replace their Senator the Democratic Governor would appoint the Senator, for the sole purpose of voting for Obamacare. This allowed the Democrtic majority in the House the pass Obamacare with 100% Democrat votes and 0 Republicans after they bought off the last few holdouts like Kusinich and all of the prolife Democrats led by Bart Stupak. Since a version already passed the Senate and a different version in the House, they needed a way to avoid sending the bill back to Senate because they no longer had 60 Democrats. This is where they used budget reconciliation. At no point in either house of Congress were Republican amendments allowed. It was 100% Democrat, one voice.

This skirted the entire legislative process and rammed through major legislation with a slick parliamentary maneuver designed for small budgetary items.

He may make sense to you but this diatribe about Scott Brown only makes sense if you intentionally ignore some facts about rules in order to fit ones agenda and opinion:

So this will be an exercise in futility on my behalf. But lets look at something shall we?

Scott Brown:


Source

It's funny how politicians will point the blame at someone else for not coming through with a campaign promise. Especially when the promise was a false pretense in the first place.

So, sorta like the Monsanto bill I'm sure you support...

I'll take this deflection as acknowledgement and affirmation of the points I made. Class dismissed. Ancient History 2009.

That would be equivalence, not deflection... Or would you like to start debating the meaning of words again? You're 0/5 so far.

Welp, with back to back to back troll posts there is no doubt that you accept my accurate history of the passing of Obamacare and how it was in fact rammed through Congress. Weird that you still want to fight anyway, but nope, I will not even argue your "deflection." I will just happily let you be wrong.

Nite fellas. I hope you are on your game tomorrow. Tonight was like amateur hour.

Tonight was like amateur hour.