Republican Makes A REALLY Stupid Comment.

it varies by state.

in mine, the state can press charges if they see fit, & in a lot of domestic abuse cases, they will, with or without the victims collaboration.

I would really have to disagree with that, but pressing charges and getting a conviction definitely aren't the same thing, and it would be damn near impossible without the victim's cooperation, unless there was evidence.

you'd be wrong. happens all the time here.

south dakota is the state, but I'm not educated enough in law to be able to cite anything in particular. I guess I could go do some poking around...

wrong convictions?

yep! I'm not advocating this policy by any means, I'm just saying it happens. I've got some other BS going on tonight, but I'll see what I can dig up tomorrow for ya.

As someone who has called in several domestic violence calls and listened in as the police accepted the "No, officer, everything is fine," despite someone bleeding in the next room (not exaggerating), I have to say that domestic violence isn't being prosecuted enough. And I say that as someone who loathes the overzealous nature of criminal prosecution we have.

But I suppose it is "nice" to see a Democrat saying something offensively stupid?

Eh, If someone is willing to defend the person that just whopped their ***, I really don't feel sorry for them. They deserve another whoopin'.

Apparently the first one didn't teach them anything.

unless there was evidence.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut....

You manage to though.

ssshhhhhhhhhhh!

don't scare him off, we need a resident conspiracy nut!

What, neither you, Nik, or Flavin are the resident conspiracy nuts?

You had me fooled then. I guess you guys are just trolling us all.

***I'll take "conspiracy nut"... /yoinks! and puts it in pocket though I have never been smart enough to come up with one... nor had the patience to hear someone out that did have one without interrupting it with gibberish... still it beats the hell out of "crazy *** ***" with a 2x4 /adjusts tinfoil hat /nods to PARKER

There's really no other way someone could take the things he says seriously right?

I honestly think KN is a liberal disguised as a conservative to further the liberal cause...

Chanti fails to repost Huffpost article that disparages conservatives. World ends in fiery cataclysm.

Neocons, for when you want to make a point using buzzwords, and you're not even sure of the point you're trying to make.

Virginia Republican Says A Pregnant Woman Is Just A 'Host,' Though 'Some Refer To Them As Mothers'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/24/steve-martin-virginia_n_4847959.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

A pregnant woman is just a "host" that should not have the right to end her pregnancy, Virginia State Sen. Steve Martin (R) wrote in a Facebook rant defending his anti-abortion views.

Martin, the former chairman of the Senate Education and Health Committee, wrote a lengthy post about his opinions on women's bodies on his Facebook wall last week in response to a critical Valentine's Day card he received from reproductive rights advocates.

"I don't expect to be in the room or will I do anything to prevent you from obtaining a contraceptive," Martin wrote. "However, once a child does exist in your womb, I'm not going to assume a right to kill it just because the child's host (some refer to them as mothers) doesn't want it." Martin then changed his post on Monday afternoon to refer to the woman as the "bearer of the child" instead of the "host."

Scroll down to see a screenshot of Martin's original post.

Martin voted for Virginia's mandatory ultrasound bill and supported a fetal personhood bill, which would ban all abortions and could affect the legality of some forms of contraception. The Virginia Pro-Choice Coalition had sent him a Valentine's Day card asking him to protect women's reproductive health options, "including preventing unwanted pregnancies, raising healthy children and choosing safe, legal abortion."

Martin reacted strongly to their letter.

"If it's your expectation that I should support such nonsense, I will be breaking your heart," he wrote. "You can count on me to never get in the way of you 'preventing an unintentional pregnancy.' I'm not actually sure what that means, because if it's 'unintentional' you must have been trying to prevent it."

Martin said Monday that he edited the original wording calling women hosts because people took it the wrong way, even though he felt it was clear he was being sarcastic. "I don't see how anyone could have taken it the wrong way," he said. "It was me playing their argument back to them. Obviously I consider pregnant women to be mothers."

Tarina Keene, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia, told The Huffington Post in an email that Martin's rant reveals the "contempt" that anti-abortion lawmakers have for women.

"Sen. Steve Martin obviously has zero understanding of the reality of reproductive choice and what it means for women to have control over their bodies, families, and lives," Keene said. "His remarks demonstrate what exactly these extreme lawmakers mean when they talk about 'personhood' - that pregnant women are no more than vessels. Even more outrageous, he also fails to understand how he as a lawmaker can help empower women to reduce unintended pregnancies -- something that should be a common goal for all."A pregnant woman is just a "host" that should not have the right to end her pregnancy, Virginia State Sen. Steve Martin (R) wrote in a Facebook rant defending his anti-abortion views.

Martin, the former chairman of the Senate Education and Health Committee, wrote a lengthy post about his opinions on women's bodies on his Facebook wall last week in response to a critical Valentine's Day card he received from reproductive rights advocates.

"I don't expect to be in the room or will I do anything to prevent you from obtaining a contraceptive," Martin wrote. "However, once a child does exist in your womb, I'm not going to assume a right to kill it just because the child's host (some refer to them as mothers) doesn't want it." Martin then changed his post on Monday afternoon to refer to the woman as the "bearer of the child" instead of the "host."

Scroll down to see a screenshot of Martin's original post.

Martin voted for Virginia's mandatory ultrasound bill and supported a fetal personhood bill, which would ban all abortions and could affect the legality of some forms of contraception. The Virginia Pro-Choice Coalition had sent him a Valentine's Day card asking him to protect women's reproductive health options, "including preventing unwanted pregnancies, raising healthy children and choosing safe, legal abortion."

Martin reacted strongly to their letter.

"If it's your expectation that I should support such nonsense, I will be breaking your heart," he wrote. "You can count on me to never get in the way of you 'preventing an unintentional pregnancy.' I'm not actually sure what that means, because if it's 'unintentional' you must have been trying to prevent it."

Martin said Monday that he edited the original wording calling women hosts because people took it the wrong way, even though he felt it was clear he was being sarcastic. "I don't see how anyone could have taken it the wrong way," he said. "It was me playing their argument back to them. Obviously I consider pregnant women to be mothers."

Tarina Keene, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia, told The Huffington Post in an email that Martin's rant reveals the "contempt" that anti-abortion lawmakers have for women.

"Sen. Steve Martin obviously has zero understanding of the reality of reproductive choice and what it means for women to have control over their bodies, families, and lives," Keene said. "His remarks demonstrate what exactly these extreme lawmakers mean when they talk about 'personhood' - that pregnant women are no more than vessels. Even more outrageous, he also fails to understand how he as a lawmaker can help empower women to reduce unintended pregnancies -- something that should be a common goal for all."