Ark Angels II / Divine Might II (Discussion)
Ark Angels II / Divine Might II (Discussion)
hmm france had some of the greatest cat burglars in history and pchan still doubts thieves for shame sir for shame
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Damnt it ! Only got 17 plutons total this time on VDHM. Even though I play on EU time when litterally nobody plays, it's not even close to a decent money maker. Boulder are 7k and pluton 200k, /fail.
pchan said: »
Damnt it ! Only got 17 plutons total this time on VDHM. Even though I play on EU time when litterally nobody plays, it's not even close to a decent money maker. Boulder are 7k and pluton 200k, /fail.
Serious question here. Is dnc usable and good in any of these events? I see ninja can do well now, so that leads me to believe a dnc/nin can do atleast subpar compared to a 119 nin.
i got 6 plutons in a run once(between pool and 6 chars)
but another time i got 154, so it's ok
but another time i got 154, so it's ok
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Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Serious question here. Is dnc usable and good in any of these events? I see ninja can do well now, so that leads me to believe a dnc/nin can do atleast subpar compared to a 119 nin.
At 4 boxes (optimist) per bc you seem to average 60 plutons, they go for 180 k and keep dropping since anyone and their sisters get free aman pouch in their invo without even trying to. That's ~11M in 4 hours thanks to the congestion at the BCs between 6 char, fail. Soon it's going to fall below alexandrites farming money wise.
Even if plutons dropped below 100k you'd average more than 11M in 4hrs, but since you seem to be having so much difficulty with it I'm sure you'll ignore/denounce it just as you do the strats that people have used to win.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
Carbuncle.Killkenny said: »
Even if plutons dropped below 100k you'd average more than 11M in 4hrs, but since you seem to be having so much difficulty with it I'm sure you'll ignore/denounce it just as you do the strats that people have used to win.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
Pchan's server has a lot of people using alternate ways to win (or fail horribly) plus tons of forever alone solo EP entrances clogging up their LOLOFF Theather, so they can't just enter; it takes 5 hours to do one run, so no...it's not productive. So your math is invalid because...viva la france.
Asura.Echandra said: »
Carbuncle.Killkenny said: »
Even if plutons dropped below 100k you'd average more than 11M in 4hrs, but since you seem to be having so much difficulty with it I'm sure you'll ignore/denounce it just as you do the strats that people have used to win.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
If you assume a 25% rate on boxes (it seems around that but thats eyeballed) then you will get 57.75 plutons per run + a 25%(conservative estimate?) chance at crafting item. You can easily make 20 merits and kill GK in an hour even after double exp ended.
Based on 180k plutons and ~3m sif's lock, thats 11M in an hour, rather than ~11m in 4hrs, french math.
Pchan's server has a lot of people using alternate ways to win (or fail horribly) plus tons of forever alone solo EP entrances clogging up their LOLOFF Theather, so they can't just enter; it takes 5 hours to do one run, so no...it's not productive. So your math is invalid because...viva la france.
But he just said ther'es only him and another guy around during EU peak time.. so surely he roams free in there D:
Asura.Echandra said: »
Pchan's server has a lot of people using alternate ways to win (or fail horribly) plus tons of forever alone solo EP entrances clogging up their LOLOFF Theather, so they can't just enter; it takes 5 hours to do one run, so no...it's not productive. So your math is invalid because...viva la france.
If it takes you 5hrs at any time to do a run you should probably go ahead and kill yourself because you're beyond help. Longest we've waited to go in was 40mins for DM VD and thats because we couldn't spam the entrance the whole time due to people afking, and yes we have plenty of solo/duo doing VE and E too.
Ignoring that he or his twin has said in the past that they are pretty much left alone during EU times.
Yeah well even in your wonderful world with no congestion it's a pathetic 11M between 6 characters in an hour . It's inferior to many things. Like soon it's going to be inferior to farming DM easy or even normal with 6 (PLD, MNKx3, WHM, BRD). DM seems the least random of the BCs, I did 1 easy and one very easy and got 6 mats plus a couple of P/B/B. I think that if you check bazar, every single of them as P/B/B in them so it's normal that the price is decreasing (-30% in one week).
Good ol FFXI full circle:
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
first one was a mythic scythe in 2 days, i had emp h2h and relic gun both in 3 days, and within a week there were dozens
it's just pchan being pchan, even if you go up to 250k there aren't enough plutons for a single weapon in zaars on most servers and there are hundreds of 99 relics around and a huge demand for rng relics atm.. pluton price will drop over time but it's not going to crash to nothing because there are too many relics around
basically.. he can't clear VD worth a ***, so he tries to devalue it.. obvious he wishes he could, or he wouldn't spend so long on his fail strats and trying to argue it's impossible for everyone else
it's just pchan being pchan, even if you go up to 250k there aren't enough plutons for a single weapon in zaars on most servers and there are hundreds of 99 relics around and a huge demand for rng relics atm.. pluton price will drop over time but it's not going to crash to nothing because there are too many relics around
basically.. he can't clear VD worth a ***, so he tries to devalue it.. obvious he wishes he could, or he wouldn't spend so long on his fail strats and trying to argue it's impossible for everyone else
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Does TH effect the treasure pool at all?
Also, does difficulty matter for synth material drop rate? :o
Also, does difficulty matter for synth material drop rate? :o
I did my relic in three day lol not 3 weeks. Anyway rng relic is not in high demand its just that noone is good enough to 99 mythics or empys. So people buy my marrows then plutons.
Mats almost never drop off difficult and very often from easy or ve
Mats almost never drop off difficult and very often from easy or ve
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Good ol FFXI full circle:
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
Just to be fair, 119 items started flooding after RoE/AA battles introduced. In Nov the only way to get it is to kill Mata (and compete with 1000 other MNK and RMTs for pop), or do delve(something most ppl have trouble with), or do SKCNM(you have to farm seals), or lolWKR......no box or w/e.
Plutons still gonna be 400k each if RoE/AA content don't reward them.
And no the average gimp solo the plutons with records of eminence and the only thing he has to buy from the relic process is marrows. Price also dropped because they are solable.
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Good ol FFXI full circle:
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
4 months ago:
"These 119 RME items are so rare as fk, no ones gonna finish it for a year and a half (in reality, the first ones started popping up within 3 weeks)"
Fast forward to now:
"omg the 119 items are being flooded to the market, they're worthless!"
Just to be fair, 119 items started flooding after RoE/AA battles introduced. In Nov the only way to get it is to kill Mata (and compete with 1000 other MNK and RMTs for pop), or do delve(something most ppl have trouble with), or do SKCNM(you have to farm seals), or lolWKR......no box or w/e.
Plutons still gonna be 400k each if RoE/AA content don't reward them.
I got my Spharai 99 in like 10 days after the update... I farmed the eft that for some reason me and some friends were the only ones killing it, and doing some lowman delve run, I got the plutons and my friends the others when they used to sell for 250k+. After farming 150sh saw someone bazaar with the rest and bought it for like 350k each... And they were overpriced.
Now good for those ppl that still farming AA the prices are going down.... But either way don't really care coz already got my relics i119
pchan said: »
And no the average gimp solo the plutons with records of eminence and the only thing he has to buy from the relic process is marrows. Price also dropped because they are solable.
but lets entertain this:
3 RoE vouchers per day, 1.5 plutons per day, presuming your character is logged in between the hours of 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. (PST),
7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. (PST) and 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. (PST) and you complete the limited time challenge before the next one pops up. So 1.5 plutons per day, and you need 300 plutons, 200 days, or 7 months.
I dont think any gimps have upgraded their relics to 119 just through RoE yet...and if you're talking from a selling point, you're not looking at much gil.
I finished my plutons right before people started beating AA's on VD. I soloed most of plutons from matamata and mules completing RoV each day.
My purchases were done little by little at a time. A person is not going to sell you all 300 unless you pay a premium or say finder's fee.
My purchases were done little by little at a time. A person is not going to sell you all 300 unless you pay a premium or say finder's fee.
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
pchan said: »
And no the average gimp solo the plutons with records of eminence and the only thing he has to buy from the relic process is marrows. Price also dropped because they are solable.
but lets entertain this:
3 RoE vouchers per day, 1.5 plutons per day, presuming your character is logged in between the hours of 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. (PST),
7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. (PST) and 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. (PST) and you complete the limited time challenge before the next one pops up. So 1.5 plutons per day, and you need 300 plutons, 200 days, or 7 months.
I dont think any gimps have upgraded their relics to 119 just through RoE yet...and if you're talking from a selling point, you're not looking at much gil.
Funny from the guy that thinks 700k is a lot of money for a stone +2.
presuming it takes you 100 stones to get a perfect PDT aug and a perfect aug of the stat you want (there are 5...so this 100 may be lowballing), x5 pieces of gear = 500 stones. 500 stones at 700k a pop = 350 mil
This is not realistic as I have
-lowballed the amount of required stones
-not accounting for market change when price increases when people find out you're buying all of the +2 stones
and burning 350 million gil on equipment, which within the past 6 months has shown any piece of gear's shelf life seems to be about 6 weeks, is stupid.
This is not realistic as I have
-lowballed the amount of required stones
-not accounting for market change when price increases when people find out you're buying all of the +2 stones
and burning 350 million gil on equipment, which within the past 6 months has shown any piece of gear's shelf life seems to be about 6 weeks, is stupid.
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Ark Angel MR on Very Hard, PLD NIN THF GEO BRD WHM, no outside buffs, 14:54 clear.
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Asura.Fiv said: »
Ark Angel MR on Very Hard, PLD NIN THF GEO BRD WHM, no outside buffs, 14:54 clear.
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Asura.Fiv said: »
Ark Angel MR on Very Hard, PLD NIN THF GEO BRD WHM, no outside buffs, 14:54 clear.
lol, no mnks, so fake, everything needs mnks
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