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 Asura.Vinedrius
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-20 03:51:25  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Main Page hasnt been updated in a while.
Just wondering what the deal is with Najelith/Ruguadjeen. Should I bother getting them? Or are they like Lion (cool to look at)?

Naj is a pretty much useless DD and there is nothing special about her afaik. Rug is tank. I haven't tried him, but don't expect him to be good for anything.
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By Sylph.Gades 2014-12-20 11:56:19  
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Main Page hasnt been updated in a while.
Just wondering what the deal is with Najelith/Ruguadjeen. Should I bother getting them? Or are they like Lion (cool to look at)?

Naj is a pretty much useless DD and there is nothing special about her afaik. Rug is tank. I haven't tried him, but don't expect him to be good for anything.


Here at my thoughts on the 2. Najeltih is good at low levels til 75. She can use sidewinder at 25 making her very deadly at low levels since she is using a higher tier WS at a low level. Higher levels yeah pretty useless.

Ruguadgeen the same. Good skills at a lower level, strong and powerful, yes a tank but more like a RUN. uses PLD abilities but with a GS. If that helps any?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2014-12-20 22:32:42  
Yes it does help. I'll use my points on something else, since levelling a different job I could probably get by with just about any other DD trusts.

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By Shiva.Kingmancat 2014-12-20 22:47:01  
Rughadjeen seemed to favor using Divine Emblem - Holy to start off fights. For WS, he favored Sickle Moon, but also has a unique AoE WS that I forget the name of right now, but it lets off a big white V and was pretty strong. His GS is apparently an upgraded Algol with constant added fire damage.

EDIT - Its called Victory Beacon.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-12-26 02:16:57  
Chance to get some of the missed Trusts, and 3 new ones for the new year:
http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/13475/detail.html
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By Asura.Elreck 2014-12-26 09:32:12  
shame that all new are cipher could have Giglamesh requirement be completing zilart,taru cop and the rng soa. Just reread seems they are limited time only thing so i guess doesnt matter.
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By Odin.Vathris 2014-12-31 09:16:39  
Chebuki is conquest points
Gilgamesh sparks
Still looking for margaret
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By Asura.Elreck 2014-12-31 09:25:01  
in peacekeepers 2k bayld.
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 Asura.Vinedrius
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By Asura.Vinedrius 2014-12-31 16:11:43  
Gilgamesh:
-Tachi: Kamai (closes darkness with CDC)
-Hasso
-Iainuki (looks epic, closes light with CDC)
-Tachi: Kasha
-Double Attack trait (maybe Zanshin, not sure)
-Hagakure
-It seems that he tends to save tp until about 1500 and wait to close SC

Margret:
-Double Shot
-Sharp Shot
-Stealth Shot
-Barrage
-Once she did double shot > sharp shot > stealth shot > barrage. Coincidence?
-Arching Arrow
-Decoy Shot
-She is SLOW and saves tp until around 2000
-Sidewinder
-Piercing Arrow

Kukki-Chebukki:
-Spams nukes matching the day of the week... but that includes ga and ja... no, thanks.
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By Phoenix.Frankbrodie 2015-01-01 10:44:03  
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
Kukki-Chebukki:
-Spams nukes matching the day of the week... but that includes ga and ja... no, thanks.

Well this one could just become my new nuking partner. When I even bother calling one out any more that is.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2015-01-01 15:06:12  
lol, maybe Kukki's like me and always wants to use his obis. :P He is from CoP after all!

Also, for those like me who like seeing which Trusts will react to each other's presence:

Gilgamesh reacts to Aldo, Ayame, and Lion.
Kukki-Chebukki reacts to Cherukiki, Prishe, and Tenzen.
Margret reacts to no one. :(

Aldo, Ayame, and Lion react to Gilgamesh.
Cherukiki and Prishe react to Kukki-Chebukki.
No one reacts to Margret. :P
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wakmidget 2015-01-01 15:50:51  
Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial said: »
No one reacts to Margret. :P

Not even Ingrid?
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2015-01-01 17:07:37  
I find it hilarious that Gilgamesh thinks I look like his daughter.

I play as a Galka ...
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By Asura.Akamatzu 2015-01-01 19:24:28  
Margret is obtain from Ujlei Zelekko in Eastern Adoulin (F-7), Peacekeeper's Coalition. with Bayld.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-01 19:26:26  
Phoenix.Gameesh said: »
I find it hilarious that Gilgamesh thinks I look like his daughter.

I play as a Galka ...
"you have the same look as my daughter" is not the same as "you look the same as my daughter"

Basically, you have the same determined look in your eye, or something of that sort.
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By Siren.Dagget 2015-01-01 20:05:18  
I didnt know this till today either, but here's are link from SE giving the locations if you need: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/38761?p=482612#post482612
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-01-06 10:24:43  
Messed around with Rughadjeen at lower levels, his greatsword seems to have the same traits as Algol. The added fire damage from his regular hits consistently do 30 damage, even when he's level 1, making him pretty useful for low level stuff. He can also triple attack, which is pretty significant, especially on a weaponskill. I did this on a mule though, so the only other Serpent General I could pair him with was Najelith. Was too lazy to test to see if they had any bonuses though.
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2015-01-06 10:39:50  
Bloodrose said: »
Phoenix.Gameesh said: »
I find it hilarious that Gilgamesh thinks I look like his daughter.

I play as a Galka ...
"you have the same look as my daughter" is not the same as "you look the same as my daughter"

Basically, you have the same determined look in your eye, or something of that sort.

Yeah I realized later I misread his quote.
:<
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2015-01-08 11:03:13  
So are there any DD trusts that are better than the others in terms of doing more damage, or do they pretty much all do the same damage? I'm liking Gilgamesh so far, which is doing a consistent 30%~ while I'm on geo/dnc farming points.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-08 11:33:15  
Shantotto, Domina Shantotto, and Kukki-Chebukki are the casters you want to use for magic damage.
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By Odin.Ladyrikku 2015-01-08 11:57:01  
Only "problem" with Kukki is he is pretty much useless on Light/Dark day since he spams nukes of the day.

And yeah Gilgamesh wrecks anything, I was lvling my Smithing Alt to 70 with trust and used him from Lv50-70 and his 2 unique WS are very powerful.
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By Leviathan.Syagin 2015-01-08 12:05:12  
Gilgamesh is very exciting to watch.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2015-01-08 12:20:28  
The blm caster trusts are nice and all, except they run out of mp quickly and I'm too lazy to resummon all the time.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-13 02:53:23  
If someone could post on the OF about how stupid Koru is with his vert timing, that would be phenomenal. I only ever saw 2 RDMs in my entire time playing this game dumb enough to do something like this.

I can deal with the wasted mp on debuffs, but this is fail.

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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2015-01-13 03:57:56  
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
If someone could post on the OF about how stupid Koru is with his vert timing, that would be phenomenal. I only ever saw 2 RDMs in my entire time playing this game dumb enough to do something like this.

I can deal with the wasted mp on debuffs, but this is fail.


Sorry but it's just a really bad coincidence. Koru doesn't take spells or ws's into account when he converts. Whenever a certain mp percentage is reached he will use it. He could probably be tweaked to wait for the best moment, but I doubt SE will give you such a powerful ally. Trusts are intentionally risky / dumb. It's why so many DD jobs (and even tanks) have AoE weaponskills. Or why all black mage jobs like to cast -ga spells or spam the most powerful magic regardless of enmity.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2015-01-13 04:29:12  
I mean he does it all the *** time lol. 3 times in a row today he's waited literally until an upheaval then converted into it. Astronomical odds.

It'd be nice if there was just a touch of logic in it. If enemy hp < 50% don't convert. Something. Anything lol.

Or he could stand the hell back. And not be right on the players *** so he doesn't get hit by AoE (as easily) it's not like he melees.
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2015-01-13 07:07:28  
They should put the Gambit system from FF12 fir the trust ;)
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By Sylph.Limlight 2015-01-13 11:33:39  
just bad luck? I used him all the time and just about never see that happen.
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