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 Siren.Kentai
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-05-28 17:29:13  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
With the new update coming up, I would be interested to know who are the best NPCs in slots that we would normally be unable to fulfill. 99% of the time, I am using Joachim/Ulmia/Cherukiki, and have not had much time to do any tests with others. As SE words it, they say you will be able to summon NPCs while you are in a party, so will that mean we can have six man parties with 18 NPCs? If this is the case, we will be using a lot of NPCs that normally don't see the light of day, so we will want to know who are the most efficient. We already know that Cherukiki > Kupipi. Mihli is also a half decent healer, so we have the three mages right there. When it comes to Tanks, I want to assume Valaineral > Trion > Curilla. Please correct me if you believe otherwise. Then it comes down to pure DD power, (unless you want Treasure Hunter) and I would be very interested to see some data regarding damage, preferably on decent targets in Adoulin areas.

I would say Kupipi/Mihli are sidegrades to Cherukiki. The reason in my mind would be that Kupipi and Mihli will erase and do status heals but will not haste, Cherukiki will haste and regen you but will not heal statuses. We're still waiting for the perfect whm clone that can do both lol.
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By honeycomb 2014-05-28 17:40:41  
damn minny games pain in the *** trying get the 3k points and most I can get is 2200 any tips been trying get bonus but they come in effect to late.
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By DarkxStardustxDragon 2014-05-28 17:47:25  
you have Smn/Blm can get 3k needed Fenrir, Stone and bring Poison potion or Elshimo Pachira Fruit, FoV page buff Hard Cookie and Regen
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-05-28 17:50:35  
The way I did it was rdm/blm. I bought a lv 1 dagger as well. When I started the battle I used stone once for 14 damage, then I healed one of the npcs on my team for 18. Then I used dia 3 times for 1, 1, and 2 damage, which made offensive magic and cures equal at 18 dmg. Then I swang my dagger until I got close to 18 (I think I criticaled and went a bit over ^^;). All that's important is you have your offensive magic and either healing or melee dmg at the same amount by the time the first evaluation ends. Then you get the nuke bonus and can just spam stone from a distance until the fight ends. This netted me 3500+ each time.

Halfway through doing them I got tired of dia being unpredictable, since it sometimes varied between 1 and 2 dmg and would throw off my numbers. I wanted make it so I wouldn't have to use dia... so my goal was to make my stone nukes do 18 normally to match the 18 heal I did. I met this goal by eating an apple pie to give me some more INT. I tried other INT foods as well, some that gave more or less INT and would antacid if they didn't make my stones do 18.

If you can get your stone damage to match your cure amount, getting 3000+ is as easy as doing 1 stone nuke, 1 heal, and hitting the mob 2 or 3 times with a dagger to get as close to your stone/cure amount as you can before the evaluation. After evaluation you will have the 200% nuke bonus and can spam stone until the battle is over.
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By honeycomb 2014-05-28 17:51:41  
finshed the goblin side do I need 10points then expert on the moogle side then how do you get aldo?
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By DarkxStardustxDragon 2014-05-28 17:53:52  
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finshed the goblin side do I need 10points then expert on the moogle side then how do you get aldo?

until you get reach 3k for both moogle and Goblin after unlock Cutscene a the reward Cipter: Aldo
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-05-28 17:53:54  
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finshed the goblin side do I need 10points then expert on the moogle side then how do you get aldo?

Once you've gotten the 10k points and the 3k from a battle in expert mode for the moogle team, the cutscene to get the aldo cipher will begin automatically from the moogle npc.
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By honeycomb 2014-05-28 18:01:37  
so didn't need do goblin side then only 1 path or am a wrong?
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By honeycomb 2014-05-28 18:02:56  
my bad ty for info
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-08 14:50:45  
i digress Fablinix is good, nice bomb toss dmg and a good dmg +healer

Moogle is worthless for most parts they say adds magic skill gain i dont see it. and his refreesh is too minimal to matter. Gessho is the best tank in the game he can solo just about anything unless it spams Ga spells like ffew of the Campgin NM's do
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By Fenrir.Minibuddha 2014-06-15 19:02:34  
What do folks think of D. Shantotto. I will find out probably tomorrow night as Fathers day and all that :P
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-15 19:06:40  
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What do folks think of D. Shantotto. I will find out probably tomorrow night as Fathers day and all that :P

Pretty much the same as the normal one just it melees and uses Scythe WSs.
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By Sylph.Nimmstalph 2014-06-15 19:19:11  
Fablinix and D. Shantotto along with Gessho work well for me when I play RDM which I do most of the time.
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By worstplayer 2014-06-16 16:58:55  
pointless piece of weirdness for all the cipher luvvers out there, was just messing on rng (lvl21) in la thiene plateau. had valaineral + cherukiki + sakura out. fighting slumbering samwell.
anyways... moogle + sakura being unaffected by.... anything... not true. sam spammed sheep song. at the time thought nothing of it. but when fight over, I walked off, looking for my next victim and sakura was still at fighting place. seems like the lil choco got affected by the sleepga affect. dunno if just a bug or a freak occurrence but anyone else had events like this take place?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-16 17:00:35  
Just found out yesterday that Prince Trion is immune to Everyone's Grudge.
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By Leviathan.Darkcloudx 2014-06-18 19:21:17  
Mihli uses afflatus solace now :o
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-23 23:22:04  
D Shanotto is alot better her Scyth hits VERY hard like 500+ normal hits plus alot of high dmg WS

anyone hear if there gonan be adding

Orc
Quadav
lamie
Mumor
Moblin
Fighting Moogle/Chocbos
Lightning
Rikku
Princess Garnet
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-24 05:28:26  
lol new ciphers announced. sadly no mumor :(

Elivira, the battledancer! (i dont understand this one.... shes not a dnc at all shes a rdm/rng lady from campgin?)
Noillurie, the rose of love and honor! (sam, ok im meh to this as sams been total fail so far)
Ferreous Coffin, the bringer of white death! (a whm galka? the title makes sound like hes a nuker?)
Lhu Mhakaracca of the thrashing axe! (this one im excited for, will she call out pets like in campign? and use relic WS?)
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By Cerberus.Keyoku 2014-06-24 05:40:37  
Ferreous Coffin in campaign can lift weakness, iirc. Was really hoping that might be whm's SP II when they first mentioned SP IIs. Obviously am not expecting a trust fellow to have that move. It's been way too long since WotG's hayday but it was something like Revivescense or so. It's all blurry now
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-24 05:54:53  
i still do it lol but im usally the only one haha. i did the SCNM from windy cuz windy owns Castle O atm on levi. and i pretty much stoimped the orcs bad haha. barly got a hit on me at all lol.

on poiunt tho id like the bst to use her Relic ax and call forth some mean *** Worms lol does she call out Rocs too??
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-06-24 05:58:53  
Leviathan.Krysten said: »
*** Worms

LOL
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-24 06:03:01  
well they could be i dunno where she gets them from :P
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-06-24 06:04:22  
It's a tarutaru summoner that calls forth the worms, not the beast master.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-24 06:24:09  
Leviathan.Krysten said: »
lol new ciphers announced. sadly no mumor :(

Elivira, the battledancer! (i dont understand this one.... shes not a dnc at all shes a rdm/rng lady from campgin?)
Noillurie, the rose of love and honor! (sam, ok im meh to this as sams been total fail so far)
Ferreous Coffin, the bringer of white death! (a whm galka? the title makes sound like hes a nuker?)
Lhu Mhakaracca of the thrashing axe! (this one im excited for, will she call out pets like in campign? and use relic WS?)

These were all confirmed to use Relic WSs in the Vana-Digest.
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2014-06-24 06:29:48  
oh so she just calls the roc? did they confrim the Trust will call forth anything?
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-24 06:39:02  
Leviathan.Krysten said: »
oh so she just calls the roc? did they confrim the Trust will call forth anything?

Nah they didn't mention that. Just that they will use their Relic WSs.
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By Leviathan.Syagin 2014-06-24 09:13:59  
Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Refia1 said: »
WHERE LION
Maaaan to hell with Lion, I would kill to have Ferreous Coffinhttp://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ferreous_Coffin
Yeeah Buddy!
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By Siren.Kentai 2014-06-24 09:42:24  
Really excited for all 4 of these, but especially the rdm/rng. She just looks so damn cool. I hope these aren't all supposed to be from login points during one login campaign. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll be from allied notes or a simple cutscene.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-06-24 09:52:55  
It's a Trust Extravaganza, so it'll probably involve buying them with Imperial Standing, Conquest Points, Cruor and Allied Notes again.

Might be a good idea to build up your currencies now if you're running low.

I wish that for these extravaganzas, they'd make all previous Trusts available again - I missed out on a few on my alt characters.
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-06-24 09:56:53  
Actually, all four of these NPC's are from the Crystal War. I know I'm low on Allied Notes, so I guess it's Campaign time again.
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