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 Fenrir.Tool
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:31:10
Shiva.Flionheart said: Ramuh.Laffter said: I admit, sitting there Drawing magic from enemies (and bosses!) was boring, but the game was lots of fun for me. < .<
Same here. Most people pick on the negative aspects of VIII and don't pick on the negative aspects of other FF's.
I've never understood it. VIII is hated simply because it's not VII.
Some people have legitimate issues with the game, whilst the rest simply don't like it because they think VII is the end-all be-all.
Ask the majority of people who hate VIII which FF they played first. Most will say VII.
VIII had it's issues, the Draw system being one (I don't see the issue with Junction, and the GF Learn system was incredibly cool) but the core game is there and good. The story line may be a bit Cliché but it's no more so than IV V and VII. It's the fact that 'Love' is one of the main aspects of the game that people call it a chick flick, they seem to forget that the main issue in X was Love also.
But like I Say, biased people will be biased.
Problem with me is. My first FF was 6, so everything after that felt like ***in a way =/
サーバ: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11972
By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-08-29 14:32:29
Geez, never set the bar too high for Final Fantasy.
6 is arguably one of the best in the series; if you start with it and don't keep an extremely open mind, yeah, everything after it is gonna seem like crap.
Luckily, I started with 7. :3
Ramuh.Haseyo
サーバ: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 22442
By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-29 14:32:37
I play games for gameplay, not story. A cool story is...cool, but it won't make/break a game for me in the least bit.
Fenrir.Tool
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:32:48
Many FFs had minor and major themes of romance throughout, however, FF8 felt so painfully awkward and mismatched, it was almost like watching Twilight.
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:33:18
Asura.Bartimaeus said: I had serious issues with the style of 8 personally. Yes yes I know 7 had block hands, 6 had sprites.
Just seemed like everyone was really tall and lankey as ***on 8. My argument for disliking it is pure shallowness, I know. :3
It still interested me enough to watch a friend play it constantly all the way through. Except for Boosting GF's, he'd toss me the controller because I could boost more efficiently than a turbo controller. xD
Sprites > pre IX GFX imo.
And the Storyline of VIII was good, the entire time displacement was a bit clumsy, but it works if you believe the theory that Rinoa is Ultimecia.
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-08-29 14:33:19
Asura.Bartimaeus said: I had serious issues with the style of 8 personally. Yes yes I know 7 had block hands, 6 had sprites.
Just seemed like everyone was really tall and lankey as ***on 8. My argument for disliking it is pure shallowness, I know. :3
It still interested me enough to watch a friend play it constantly all the way through. Except for Boosting GF's, he'd toss me the controller because I could boost more efficiently than a turbo controller. xD Yes!
My fingers work perfectly for this, I could reach insane numbers.
 Fairy.Spence
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23780
By Fairy.Spence 2010-08-29 14:33:50
Asura.Bartimaeus said: I had serious issues with the style of 8 personally. Yes yes I know 7 had block hands, 6 had sprites.
Just seemed like everyone was really tall and lankey as ***on 8. My argument for disliking it is pure shallowness, I know. :3
It still interested me enough to watch a friend play it constantly all the way through. Except for Boosting GF's, he'd toss me the controller because I could boost more efficiently than a turbo controller. xD
Same.
I'd rather have cartoon-ish graphics than fail realistic graphics.
Fenrir.Tool
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:34:29
Ramuh.Laffter said: Geez, never set the bar too high for Final Fantasy.
6 is arguably one of the best in the series; if you start with it and don't keep an extremely open mind, yeah, everything after it is gonna seem like crap.
Luckily, I started with 7. :3
Oh I always leave my mind open. Problem is certain things will bug the ***out of me. They won't necessarily stop the game from being decent overall or will deny the fact that the story was respectable but they definitely walk a thin line pushing my buttons making a half assed gameplay system and making random plot devices and pathetic character development/interaction. FF8 was one of those that walked that thin line.
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:34:47
Fenrir.Tool said: Many FFs had minor and major themes of romance throughout, however, FF8 felt so painfully awkward and mismatched, it was almost like watching Twilight.
What? The entire love aspect of it wasn't even explored until late disk 3, when Rinoa is kidnapped by Seifer and Adel. And even then it wasn't as open as any western game. Japanese love stories are always subtle, and I didn't find it 'in your face' at all.
Compare it to X when there's an entire make out scene in a pond...
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Game: FFXI
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:36:12
Asura.Bartimaeus said: Sidebar:
I still can't bring myself to play ff4 beyond like an hour of a new game. I have it on DS and it's just SO dull to me :x
I found IV to be one of the least interesting and over-rated FF's ever.
V and VI were superior in every way.
Fenrir.Tool
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:37:18
Oh I know it was subtle, but even after the climax to initiate said romance, it still felt remarkably awkward and mismatched. As if it was some sort of forced relationship for the sake of progressing the main storyline or justifying previously made actions. Just didn't play out well for me, but it was generally acceptable, just not as well defined as I had hoped.
IMO Rachel & Locke had a much more interesting past and plausible relationship than Cloud/Aeris, Squall/Rinoa, Tidus/Yuna ever had. But I am semi-biased of course.
Also I haven't played 9 in so long, I can't really recall what initiated something between Garnet and Zidane other than being on ironically equal ended motivations on opposite ends of social classes.
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:39:01
Fenrir.Tool said: Oh I know it was subtle, but even after the climax to initiate said romance, it still felt remarkably awkward and mismatched. As if it was some sort of forced relationship for the sake of progressing the main storyline or justifying previously made actions. Just didn't play out well for me, but it was generally acceptable, just not as well defined as I had hoped.
Well I found the same thing about Aeris and Cloud. Luckily Aeris died and stopped that issue from plaguing the game.
Fenrir.Tool
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:40:33
Ninja edit >.>
サーバ: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
Posts: 11972
By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-08-29 14:40:37
Shiva.Flionheart said: Fenrir.Tool said: Oh I know it was subtle, but even after the climax to initiate said romance, it still felt remarkably awkward and mismatched. As if it was some sort of forced relationship for the sake of progressing the main storyline or justifying previously made actions. Just didn't play out well for me, but it was generally acceptable, just not as well defined as I had hoped.
Well I found the same thing about Aeris and Cloud. Luckily Aeris died and stopped that issue from plaguing the game. Never understood why they didn't just use a Phoenix Down. XD
Fenrir.Tool
サーバ: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:42:25
Ramuh.Laffter said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Fenrir.Tool said: Oh I know it was subtle, but even after the climax to initiate said romance, it still felt remarkably awkward and mismatched. As if it was some sort of forced relationship for the sake of progressing the main storyline or justifying previously made actions. Just didn't play out well for me, but it was generally acceptable, just not as well defined as I had hoped.
Well I found the same thing about Aeris and Cloud. Luckily Aeris died and stopped that issue from plaguing the game. Never understood why they didn't just use a Phoenix Down. XD
My guess was that it was a mortal wound while battle KOs are simply being knocked into unconciousness. Which still doesn't explain how taking 9999 dmg when you only have 6k HP doesn't kill you permanently either.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:44:04
Asura.Bartimaeus said: I'll forever love 6 most. Personal bias since it was my first long term RPG on SNES (along with Earthbound/Zelda of course).
Nothing will ever replace the literal MONTHS I spent on that.
Same here, though it's not so much the bias of it seeing as I started with V.
VI will always be my favourite for one simple reason, and that reason is my Avatar.
Most stories have standard cliché'd antagonists, but Kefka was truly different. Seeing as for the first half of the game you only saw him as the comedic aspect of the game, thinking that a larger force was pulling his strings, you could see he was a very warped individual, but you were never sure what he was so you know. Him poisoning Doma was the first hint that he was a very twisted individual, but still. When he killed Gestahl and took the power of the warring triad my jaw literally hit the floor. And then to top it all he actually destroys the world! No other villain has done that.
If they ever released a prequel to VI where the explored Kefka's past and his Magitek infusion that drove him crazy, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Fenrir.Tool
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Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:44:11
Asura.Bartimaeus said: Fenrir.Tool said:
IMO Rachel & Locke had a much more interesting past and plausible relationship.
Call me a sap, this part (and other ff people dying etc parts) were really really sad to me. ;-; This one the most though. lol
That part made me sad too. Strangely the only part to really upset me was the long FMV of Queen Bhrane (or whatever her name was) committing mass genocide on the Burmucean Kingdom.
I never hated a fictional character so badly after that.
And to see Garnet literally forgive her dead mother later was just like wow ; ;
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:45:18
The Locke, Celes, Rachel love triangle will always remain one of the saddest moments of video game history to me.
Garnet and Zidane were well matched Imo.
 Bismarck.Chasuro
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1921
By Bismarck.Chasuro 2010-08-29 14:45:45
Diabolos.Rydiya said: Bismarck.Chasuro said: Diabolos.Rydiya said: Bismarck.Chasuro said: Diabolos.Rydiya said: The ***? Why the hell is my laptop in KY? It's coming to WA and was in Arizona damnit!
I thought you were going to jobcorps? I am. Waiting for my lappy to come in, and hear back from 'em.
Do you know what skills you will get from jobcorps? Ayup. Going into Culinary Arts as well. I figure, I can go into private schools for that later as well.
Seattle Central Community College in Capitol Hill has a great Culinary Arts program, just so ya know.
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:45:56
I'm not going to lie, I cried at the end of X.
Tidus will always remain one of my favourite chars of all time.
Fenrir.Tool
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 3848
By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 14:46:30
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Most stories have standard cliché'd antagonists, but Kefka was truly different. Seeing as for the first half of the game you only saw him as the comedic aspect of the game, thinking that a larger force was pulling his strings, you could see he was a very warped individual, but you were never sure what he was so you know. Him poisoning Doma was the first hint that he was a very twisted individual, but still. When he killed Gestahl and took the power of the warring triad my jaw literally hit the floor. And then to top it all he actually destroys the world! No other villain has done that.
If they ever released a prequel to VI where the explored Kefka's past and his Magitek infusion that drove him crazy, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Inorite! I thought nothing of Kefka at first because he seemed to be such a whimsical light hearted villian made for the sake of comic relief or something of the like.
Then when he turns to really twisted obscene and cruel actions, you think he is behind something much larger in the big picture, but nope. He's just one *** up crazy badass that blows up the world by pushing a statue. Who knew?!
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:46:55
Asura.Bartimaeus said: The Doma river poisoning, and Cyan seeing his wife and son on Doomtrain as well. Not super specific as a sad moment, but the thought was sad as hell anyway.
Aw man that got me too. When you go into Cyans dreams later on, I was so sad :(
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-08-29 14:47:38
Ok now I have the huge urge to play VI again >.>
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree
Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present
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