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 Leviathan.Catnipthief
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:22:06  
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
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Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-05-12 17:22:18  
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?
PDT while still being able to DD ^
Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.

Obviously never done salvage then?

Hmm, Monk PDT build usually will consist of the options you put there Cat. Add a Black Belt and Boxers Mantle, Hades Sainti if you have them.

The other slots I'd probably stick with your usual TP gears. MNK AFv2 hands, Haidate, Fuma feet, Faith Torque and w.e you use on your earrings. I'm no mnk, but its what Ive seen monk tanks do in the past.

Can always add in Orachi Nodawa neck, or Collossus earring if you need an extra bit of PDT and Regen
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-12 17:23:27  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:26:26  
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.


Hmmmmmmm.


*goes to ponder*
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:26:31  
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.

you make no sense
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:27:42  
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.


With what you said in mind, could you put together a semi (read i'm *** poor and can't afford alot sooo.....) item set I could go off that would be good?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-12 17:29:01  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.


With what you said in mind, could you put together a semi (read i'm *** poor and can't afford alot sooo.....) item set I could go off that would be good?
For what in particular? Just Campaign? And at what level?

There's really no reason not to use Jelly Ring because that would give more of a benefit defensively than any other ring besides Bomb Queen Ring which you can't use yet anyway, even if you did have it.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:30:01  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Earth Staff anyone?


PDT while still being able to DD ^


Using a PDT set with the intention of DDing in any way is never a good idea. Just saying.


Soloing in Campaign?


or would my regular TP set just be as fine (well, i'd use the gi, but swap in SH for ws)
Would be better off using an EVA set or max HP set. Especially on MNK. And especially /DNC.

-PDT set isn't even useful on NIN outside of a rare few situations where the NMs could potentially one-shot you otherwise. Which won't happen on MNK in Campaign. Not even by the strongest NMs.


With what you said in mind, could you put together a semi (read i'm *** poor and can't afford alot sooo.....) item set I could go off that would be good?

no, stop. what's max hp going to do, let you lose less enmity when you get hit-- oh wait, you're soloing. if you're taking more damage than you can cure as /dnc, then a pdt set is a good idea.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-12 17:33:00  
If you're taking more damage than you can cure, you switch to a Counter set and use Counterstance.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:34:00  
taking damage and curing it contributes to xp gained from campaign.

edit: also doesn't justify using evasion/maxhp set
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-12 17:34:51  
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
taking damage and curing it contributes to xp gained from campaign.
And getting a raise by some WHM gives them exp too.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:36:45  
...?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-05-12 17:39:27  
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
edit: also doesn't justify using evasion/maxhp set
In Campaign with /DNC, I wouldn't use anything other than a DD set. Keeps TP gain high and keeps you alive.

For tanking, I would use /NIN with a max HP set. Adding HP will almost always benefit you more than adding -PDT. Even PLD doesn't concern itself with -PDT, why should MNK? Granted, MNK has better -PDT gear, but it also has some serious +HP gear.

For solo, I would /NIN with an EVA set, and fulltime Counterstance for when shadows are down.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-12 17:41:35  
Siren.Enternius said:
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
edit: also doesn't justify using evasion/maxhp set
In Campaign with /DNC, I wouldn't use anything other than a DD set. Keeps TP gain high and keeps you alive.

For tanking, I would use /NIN with a max HP set. Adding HP will almost always benefit you more than adding -PDT. Even PLD doesn't concern itself with -PDT, why should MNK? Granted, MNK has better -PDT gear, but it also has some serious HP gear.

For solo, I would /NIN with an EVA set, and fulltime Counterstance for when shadows are down.

Evasion is over-rated imo, as is HP. I'd rather a PDT set easily.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:42:24  
.... lol?


*stares*



























*walks out*
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2010-05-12 17:47:07  
Siren.Enternius said:
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
edit: also doesn't justify using evasion/maxhp set
In Campaign with /DNC, I wouldn't use anything other than a DD set. Keeps TP gain high and keeps you alive.

For tanking, I would use /NIN with a max HP set. Adding HP will almost always benefit you more than adding -PDT. Even PLD doesn't concern itself with -PDT, why should MNK? Granted, MNK has better -PDT gear, but it also has some serious HP gear.

For solo, I would /NIN with an EVA set, and fulltime Counterstance for when shadows are down.

TP gain is terrible on mnk, using a DD set you'll just kill yourself by getting hit too hard unless you're DD'ing with Usukane.

Here's what I use in campaign without even trying, DD/TP isn't a problem.


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By Hades.Eliane 2010-05-12 17:47:14  
lol Dont use Evasion sets on MNK.

Counterstance and -PDT sets are a lot better considering MNK tanks. If shadows are down, still have that 50% chance to counter I believ it is, and if you do get hit, the low defense you have with counterstance, the -PDT will migate that damage even more so
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:48:08  
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing.


NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah?


And no BB yet :/
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-05-12 17:49:49  
Im so popular. I zone into sky and I get /slapped by 3 people.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:49:55  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
edit: also doesn't justify using evasion/maxhp set
In Campaign with /DNC, I wouldn't use anything other than a DD set. Keeps TP gain high and keeps you alive.

For tanking, I would use /NIN with a max HP set. Adding HP will almost always benefit you more than adding -PDT. Even PLD doesn't concern itself with -PDT, why should MNK? Granted, MNK has better -PDT gear, but it also has some serious HP gear.

For solo, I would /NIN with an EVA set, and fulltime Counterstance for when shadows are down.

Evasion is over-rated imo, as is HP. I'd rather a PDT set easily.

evasion, max hp, and pdt have their places. obviously you're not really going to worry about pdt when shadows are up, etc. he's just leveling up mnk in campaign and didn't really list any other scenarios, so those points are pretty moot.

i don't know how well you'd fare soloing mobs in campaign at that level, but a lot of normal mobs are fairly easily face-tankable, such that at higher levels any kind of defensive set is pretty pointless on those mobs.

regarding nms, deathlord rojwhatshisface likes to go around hitting people for 2k with no crit.
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2010-05-12 17:51:11  
What eli/flio said, Eva builds suck.
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-05-12 17:51:35  
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Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/

NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:55:10  
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Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/

NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one


Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 17:56:50  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/

NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one


Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)

if you really want to, but sounds like a waste of time to me.
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-05-12 17:57:24  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/
NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one
Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)

Do what Spence did, camp Day 1-3 and give the HNM to other LS in exchange for the BB item itself.

I never would have thought of that before lol
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 17:59:01  
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/
NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one
Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)

Do what Spence did, camp Day 1-3 and give the HNM to other LS in exchange for the BB item itself.

I never would have thought of that before lol


Hahah wow, never thought of that, like give ToD to another HNMLS or ? maybe i'm reading it wrong lol
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-05-12 18:03:45  
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/

NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one


Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)

if you really want to, but sounds like a waste of time to me.

My shell ends up dropping most of the BB items we get. No buyers and no-one needs certain ones.

We've had the Wyrm beard so often.
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-05-12 18:06:36  
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/
NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one
Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)
Do what Spence did, camp Day 1-3 and give the HNM to other LS in exchange for the BB item itself. I never would have thought of that before lol
Hahah wow, never thought of that, like give ToD to another HNMLS or ? maybe i'm reading it wrong lol

No he claimed them, and gave to other LS in exchange for BB item
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2010-05-12 18:09:12  
my server's pretty different; shells are recruiting just about everyone, so those shells don't really decrease their demand for items.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2010-05-12 18:09:27  
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Ramuh.Lorzy said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Hades.Eliane said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Good, thought I was right about the -pdt thing. NQ would work till I can afford HQ yeah? And no BB yet :/

NQ works until HQ yes. BB is really a big piece to have in a -PDT build :/ It works without one, just helps big time having one


Oh I imagine, I just don't have the 2-3m the HNMls would want on this server for each piece, I may sit out there and see if any might free drop it (I can dream can't i?!?)

if you really want to, but sounds like a waste of time to me.

My shell ends up dropping most of the BB items we get. No buyers and no-one needs certain ones.

We've had the Wyrm beard so often.


*moves to shiva*
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