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btw, I <3 fighting AN and Dawn. They got the best CSs in the game :D
Well that and no one expected the older brother to have fast cast so strong that it's pratically chainspell speed on aga3s
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Asura.Korpg said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Asura.Korpg said: btw, I <3 fighting AN and Dawn. They got the best CSs in the game :D Well that and no one expected the older brother to have fast cast so strong that it's pratically chainspell speed on aga3s Asura.Korpg said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Asura.Korpg said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Shoo, Failmage. Or a Tank? wait a minute, you have neither, all you have is SCH and lolbrd. It does if you want to be useful, ***. Guess what? My non-75's are still *** useful, now go die in a fire. Bahamut.Rydiya said: Asura.Korpg said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Asura.Korpg said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Bahamut.Rydiya said: Shoo, Failmage. Or a Tank? wait a minute, you have neither, all you have is SCH and lolbrd. It does if you want to be useful, ***. Guess what? My non-75's are still *** useful, now go die in a fire. but those useful ones aren't 75 Here just for fun
Kanican said: Scholar is an incredibly MP efficient healer and buffer in Light Arts. In addition, Scholar lacks the 2 major "buff spells" - Haste and Refresh, and does not have to spend MP to constantly maintain these on tanks and melee. This allows Scholar to completely focus on AoE buffs, Status Cures, and Cures. Because of it's MP efficiency, the limiting factor to a Scholar's play as a backline support generally is NOT MP, but enmity! A very good Enmity build on Scholar in Light Arts directly adds to its efficiency as a support player.
In addition, there are 2 very key things to note about Scholar which I'll go over separately. 1) Accession grants up to 6x the amount of hate a normal buff or cure would give. This is a huge problem on certain buffs. The most common Accession buff is Stoneskin, which provides 300 VE. A full 6 player Accession Stoneskin grants the Scholar 300 VE x 6 or 1800 VE... Same as Provoke, ,you can see how this gets nasty. Other buffs like Phalanx, all -na spells, and Enspells provide 1800 VE as well. Erase is especially bad at 480 VE a target... that can potentially be a 2880 VE cast for a 6 player erase-ga. While Accession is an incredibly powerful Scholar ability, the hate potential it provides is extremely large and needs to be compensated for. 2) Scholars do not have access to Cure V or much Cure Potency Gear. Most WHMs don't really focus on a huge enmity reduction set on their cures, which is OK in my opinion. This has a great deal to do with the fact that WHMs have tremendous access to a good variety of cure potency gear like Rondel Earring, Nobles Tunic, etc. which would be better than stacking enmity gear. Also, WHMs typcially use Cure V for large cures for both the insane single target cure of 800+ as well as the stable, generally low enmity it provides (static 400 CE, 700 VE). A Scholar attempting to heal large quantities cannot access Cure V and must use Cure III or IV, which follow the Cure Formula. This leads to significantly higher VE production... for instance, a Rapture Cure IV for 646 HP grants a whopping 470 CE / 2819 VE, while a Cure V is still the static 400 CE / 700 VE. Prior to having extended time playing Scholar as a healer, I was not a huge fan of enmity reduction stacking. I came to use this build more out of trial and error and just finding myself getting hate way too quickly. Scholar in Light Arts has tremendous MP efficiency and curing power with Rapture / Accession usage. The thing that generally held me back in these situations has been hate. uh...
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Ludoggy said: What was the flower you traded to the galka npc to make ninja tool bags?
I'm having a brain fart and cant find on wiki Wijnfruit ty Asura.Ludoggy said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Ludoggy said: What was the flower you traded to the galka npc to make ninja tool bags? I'm having a brain fart and cant find on wiki You know whats fun? When there is no npc to do that and all of a sudden toolbag prices go up way up because of it. Then randomly the stacks of the tools go up cause sellers/buyers don't pay attention and think the reason is cause people value the tools more not that supply is way down... Ramuh.Haseyo said: Oh dear, what did I miss. o.o; Das starting a fight with me over a 5% potency earring not long after I woke up and before I went and got coffee? Ramuh.Dasva said: You know whats fun? When there is no npc to do that and all of a sudden toolbag prices go up way up because of it. Then randomly the stacks of the tools go up cause sellers/buyers don't pay attention and think the reason is cause people value the tools more not that supply is way down... I keep a few just in case there is the 3x the price thing. Rydiya saying *** made me lol so hard.
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ITT people argue about cure potency when neither has the only real curing job at 75.
Ramuh.Haseyo said: Oh dear, what did I miss. o.o; Rydiya being wrong again Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: ITT people argue about cure potency when neither has the only real curing job at 75. Define real curing job please. Ramuh.Dasva said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: ITT people argue about cure potency when neither has the only real curing job at 75. Define real curing job please. one that can main heal without gimping itself with stupidity? Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra
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WHM. 'nuff said.
Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: WHM. 'nuff said. <.< And I wasn't wrong, Dasva said wasting MP.. It's actually saving MP because I'm having to cure less. anybody wanna play msn bowling with me :D ?
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: ITT people argue about cure potency when neither has the only real curing job at 75. WTF gimping with stupidity? Bahamut.Rydiya said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: WHM. 'nuff said. Lol whm is becoming the least desired healer for most situations. Who cares about mp? *** if mp is your problem your doing it wrong... I never said a thing about you wasting mp... here I'll requote why emnity is more important except when cure Ving Ramuh.Dasva said: Here just for fun Kanican said: Scholar is an incredibly MP efficient healer and buffer in Light Arts. In addition, Scholar lacks the 2 major "buff spells" - Haste and Refresh, and does not have to spend MP to constantly maintain these on tanks and melee. This allows Scholar to completely focus on AoE buffs, Status Cures, and Cures. Because of it's MP efficiency, the limiting factor to a Scholar's play as a backline support generally is NOT MP, but enmity! A very good Enmity build on Scholar in Light Arts directly adds to its efficiency as a support player. In addition, there are 2 very key things to note about Scholar which I'll go over separately. 1) Accession grants up to 6x the amount of hate a normal buff or cure would give. This is a huge problem on certain buffs. The most common Accession buff is Stoneskin, which provides 300 VE. A full 6 player Accession Stoneskin grants the Scholar 300 VE x 6 or 1800 VE... Same as Provoke, ,you can see how this gets nasty. Other buffs like Phalanx, all -na spells, and Enspells provide 1800 VE as well. Erase is especially bad at 480 VE a target... that can potentially be a 2880 VE cast for a 6 player erase-ga. While Accession is an incredibly powerful Scholar ability, the hate potential it provides is extremely large and needs to be compensated for. 2) Scholars do not have access to Cure V or much Cure Potency Gear. Most WHMs don't really focus on a huge enmity reduction set on their cures, which is OK in my opinion. This has a great deal to do with the fact that WHMs have tremendous access to a good variety of cure potency gear like Rondel Earring, Nobles Tunic, etc. which would be better than stacking enmity gear. Also, WHMs typcially use Cure V for large cures for both the insane single target cure of 800 as well as the stable, generally low enmity it provides (static 400 CE, 700 VE). A Scholar attempting to heal large quantities cannot access Cure V and must use Cure III or IV, which follow the Cure Formula. This leads to significantly higher VE production... for instance, a Rapture Cure IV for 646 HP grants a whopping 470 CE / 2819 VE, while a Cure V is still the static 400 CE / 700 VE. Prior to having extended time playing Scholar as a healer, I was not a huge fan of enmity reduction stacking. I came to use this build more out of trial and error and just finding myself getting hate way too quickly. Scholar in Light Arts has tremendous MP efficiency and curing power with Rapture / Accession usage. The thing that generally held me back in these situations has been hate. Xbox Live is in cohorts with my internet connection. Not only can I not sign into Xbox Live, PoL is slower than "Slow Children at Play". Christ, I need some alcohol.
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Xbox Live is in cohorts with my internet connection. Not only can I not sign into Xbox Live, PoL is slower than "Slow Children at Play". Christ, I need some alcohol. Yes, alcohol will speed life up. wait wat. Ramuh.Dasva said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Midgardsormr.Sectumsempra said: ITT people argue about cure potency when neither has the only real curing job at 75. WTF gimping with stupidity? only in my head does ***like that make sense. Ramuh.Haseyo said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Xbox Live is in cohorts with my internet connection. Not only can I not sign into Xbox Live, PoL is slower than "Slow Children at Play". Christ, I need some alcohol. Yes, alcohol will speed life up. wait wat. yup, I just got paid, so I'm heading to the liqour store to restock, and get my ***paid, *** late utility bills. Fighting over Hate- or Cure+ is like fighting over weather to get a lolpup or a lolblu.
Asura.Ludoggy said: Fighting over Hate- or Cure is like fighting over weather to get a lolpup or a lolblu. Christ, even the retards can see that PUP is awesome. Someone give that man a cookie! Dasva said: Rydiya said: For some odd reason Quote doesn't work, But Dasva, more potency+% = Less MP/TP spent curing that very same person for the same ammount. It is very much worth the cost. Duh! But really how often does 5% more save the day? I mean sure it looks nice and all but do you run out of mp as whm? And more like same mp/tp spent to potentially cure more. You might actually cure the same amount to since in some situations overhealing is easy. I'd use magnetic on whm first. stop fighting or il track you both down and unleash my subligar!
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Asura.Ludoggy said: Fighting over Hate- or Cure is like fighting over weather to get a lolpup or a lolblu. Christ, even the retards can see that PUP is awesome. Someone give that man a cookie! Yay! a cookie! Ramuh.Sagittario said: stop fighting or il track you both down and unleash my subligar!
it smells like fish... I GOT IT!
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