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By Siren.Mosin 2015-08-17 12:09:05  
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-08-17 12:12:37  
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Most groups want you to watch a video first so you have some clue of what you're doing so it doesn't take a few hours extra for you to learn what the mechanics are. It's usually fine when a fight first comes out but after it's been out for a few weeks it's annoying when a few people know the fight and the rest go in blind and you just wipe and wipe and wipe. When you're timed at 60-90 minutes and each group does it it gets very annoying. If you've at least watched a video you'll have some clue of where to stand and what the mechanics do and it makes practicing the fight a lot less frustrating.

This is only for Extreme primals and 8 man raids though, in 24 man and non-ex/raid content it doesn't matter.

It's different from XI where you could just read a little about the fight and be alright, XIV is so much more punishing when you fail the mechanics and most people are tired of doing old fights and wiping constantly because a few people screw it up again and again.

Yeah, I'm not even referring to pickup groups, I mean among the people I played with. No one ever wanted to try and figure things out. I do get it for pickups, which is why I did very little of that (and only fights I already knew).
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 12:13:38  
I see you have HA feet Rooks

I tried that fight in DF a while back to get DRG glamour and the amount of people who had no clue what to do because they went in blind...

They completely ruined the runs because they had no clue how to deal with the mechanics even after I gave detailed explanations. It wasn't possible to win those runs because they didn't bother reading up on the fight or watching a video to learn placement.

Even T7 was terrible in DF because people kept petrifying everyone
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 12:16:10  
We do stuff blind sometimes and just go in for fun but if there's a random then we look up the fight so we don't waste their time. Which is why it's best to do things blind when they come out or you'll just be rude to people by not looking it up (in my opinion at least)
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-08-17 12:19:57  
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We do stuff blind sometimes and just go in for fun but if there's a random then we look up the fight so we don't waste their time. Which is why it's best to do things blind when they come out or you'll just be rude to people by not looking it up (in my opinion at least)

Obviously, if I started playing again, I would do my research. It's the giving up before even trying that always kinda ticked me off.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 12:21:58  
We die a lot before even trying because someone aggros
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 12:24:26  
I died by touching the wall a few times in coil before they told me to avoid it

One time I stood around for 30 seconds after being raised (with LB so no confirmation window) and watched Nael beat the crap out of everyone. We wiped at 3%

Another time we got past Heavensfall and I got dc'd for not paying and they all died lol
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-08-17 12:50:13  
I once got Phaffi in DF, I have a screenshot of him dead.

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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-17 12:51:14  
A lot of mechanics are pretty obvious, but some are just plain bad design. I don't mind playing blind unless I'm hindering my group. Really, I just kinda do whatever the group wants.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:05:53  
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A lot of mechanics are pretty obvious, but some are just plain bad design. I don't mind playing blind unless I'm hindering my group. Really, I just kinda do whatever the group wants.

I wish we had some more random and telegraphed (but no aoe circle) attacks instead of instakill mechanics all the time, I think that's more fun
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By Lakshmi.Rooks 2015-08-17 13:07:58  
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I wish we had some more randomn and telegraphed (but no aoe circle) attacks instead of instakill mechanics all the time, I think that's more fun

Yeah, I loved Thornmarch.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:09:38  
Also fights like Singularity Reactor are fun
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-17 13:13:28  
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A lot of mechanics are pretty obvious, but some are just plain bad design. I don't mind playing blind unless I'm hindering my group. Really, I just kinda do whatever the group wants.

I wish we had some more randomn and telegraphed (but no aoe circle) attacks instead of instakill mechanics all the time, I think that's more fun

The UI is good enough that dropping telegraphs altogether would be fine, I just wish there was a little more randomness to fights. Once you know the dance, you can almost avoid all danger. It's when stuff goes wrong that I get excited. Lately I've found myself looking forward to the tank or healer flooring in roulettes when I'm on summoner. Nail biting, kiting, attacking your abilities and riding cooldowns to pull off a win or recover a wipe. I like to feel like my abilities are the focus, not my pavlovian conditioning.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:18:41  
Something I hear a lot from a friend is that XI was more difficult but honestly, I feel it's much more forgiving than XIV. You can have lots of people die and still recover in XI but in XIV you're kinda *** on dps checks if too many are weakened or there's some mechanic that requires a certain amount of people to complete.

Most strategies were just "burn it and stunlock" or "burn it while tank holds it/spam cures on tank"

Not like you had to move or anything a lot of the time.


Not saying it's worse (because I enjoyed it a lot more when I could type and still do well) but I think a lot of people look back at XI with rose tinted glasses and they forget what it was actually like for most of the game. Soundtrack was superior in pretty much every way though.
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By Anna Ruthven 2015-08-17 13:19:02  
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
I wish we had some more randomn and telegraphed (but no aoe circle) attacks instead of instakill mechanics all the time, I think that's more fun

Yeah, I loved Thornmarch.
Funny doing it with 1 tank, a BRD or MCH, and 6 WHM. I think our fastest clear was just under 2 mins. (Story mode tho.)

Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Also fights like Singularity Reactor are fun
Helped an FC mate with that yesterday. Awesome fight.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:21:25  
I do hate when they nerf easy things because of OF crybabies though. Spend some more time on it instead of whining for 10 pages on the OF.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:23:46  
Like this guy

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/255281-Nael-deus-Darnus-T9
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-17 13:23:50  
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I do hate when they nerf easy things because of OF crybabies though. Spend some more time on it instead of whining for 10 pages on the OF.

Nope! If I can't faceroll everything blind with randos on the first try, it is bad/broken/unfair/elitist/etc. Must go to forum and whine instead of trying harder.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-08-17 13:28:56  
I wish I liked 14...
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-17 13:31:47  
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I wish I liked 14...

I'm not crazy about the game, but I like the people I play with, and that's enough.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:34:50  
Having a house has helped a lot to keep me busy when we're not doing anything since I like to make furniture and stuff for my room or tweak the inside of the FC house a bit

Building things in the workshop is kinda fun too

When we didn't have a house we'd just hang out at camp Tranquil and that was pretty shitty lol
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2015-08-17 13:41:41  
Odin.Jassik said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish I liked 14...

I'm not crazy about the game, but I like the people I play with, and that's enough.
See, this is your problem, Mosin. You need more Spath in your ffxiv.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-08-17 13:45:07  
:V
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2015-08-17 13:46:51  
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:V
I'm still waiting for you baby~
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By Bismarck.Misao 2015-08-17 13:53:49  
next paycheck lol

got what I wanted and can move on.
can also blame it on FC Drama lol
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2015-08-17 13:54:39  
Now I'm curious
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-17 13:56:50  
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I wish I liked 14...
I can't even justify the cost of the game plus a month subscriptions based on what I've seen of the game and people who played it only to come back to FFXI.

So if the game was free and first month was free I'd at least give it a try for myself, otherwise, nah.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-08-17 14:21:06  
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I wish I liked 14...

Are you still dabbling with ESO?

Is this our mandatory quarterly, "Man I miss XI! Would I go back to XI? Would I go back to XIV for the hell of it?" handwringing session?
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-17 14:26:20  
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish I liked 14...

Are you still dabbling with ESO?

Is this our mandatory quarterly, "Man I miss XI! Would I go back to XI? Would I go back to XIV for the hell of it?" handwringing session?

Pining for the past is pretty natural. I miss going to the beach with my cousins as a kid. I look back on those times favorably, but if one of them invited me to go to the beach now, I'd think they'd lost their mind, lol.


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Siren.Mosin said: »
I wish I liked 14...
I can't even justify the cost of the game plus a month subscriptions based on what I've seen of the game and people who played it only to come back to FFXI.

So if the game was free and first month was free I'd at least give it a try for myself, otherwise, nah.


This is my biggest reason for watching let's plays. Games used to have demo versions or trial periods, now you have to spend 60+ bucks on the game and a sub fee with MMO's just to find out if you even like it. It keeps me from playing a lot of games I might otherwise be willing to buy, and keeps the dev's from getting paid because people determine games to only be worth the used copy price.
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