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what are you yelling about now scuba steve?
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Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
What villain would a mouse be?
Tick tock, the mouse goes around the clock?????
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I have grown extremely weary of architects saying "delineate" all the time. it's starting to make me think when they get their degree the guy pulls them aside and says "If all else fails just say 'delineate' a bunch, it'll make dummies think you're smart!"
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
what are you yelling about now scuba steve?
Siren.Mosin said: »
I have grown extremely weary of architects saying "delineate" all the time. it's starting to make me think when they get their degree the guy pulls them aside and says "If all else fails just say 'delineate' a bunch, it'll make dummies think you're smart!" am I on to something here z? or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I have grown extremely weary of architects saying "delineate" all the time. it's starting to make me think when they get their degree the guy pulls them aside and says "If all else fails just say 'delineate' a bunch, it'll make dummies think you're smart!"
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
I am still upset they would not pass my Caulk submittal used at the back of kitchen countertops meeting the wall, due to it being standard interior caulking and they want exterior grade...ITS A *** EXISTING BUILDING GETTING REHABILITATED WHILE OCCUPIED!!!!! /flips countertop on their head
Umm...no not heard them say delineate, but I do see them just point out to ***in prior emails and attach it all then to give an answer directly. This one project has 900+ RFIs....like how do you design a building THAT BAD?!?!?!
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I guess I don't understand how you can question someones degree or capability for wanting a different quality of product. Unless said product will cause some kind of issue (other than you being annoyed).
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I guess I don't understand how you can question someones degree or capability for wanting a different quality of product. Unless said product will cause some kind of issue (other than you being annoyed).
Raining on the outside of a building and not raining in the kitchen. U'd have to be really special to make it rain in the kitchen and get past the appropriate level of caulk, and if you did, you'd have your own special other problems to deal with.
This matters for cost of the tubes of caulking budgeted. Technically they did have the more expensive one specified, but most architects and common sensed people will listen to reason and be like "hey you're right" plus many architects copy n paste the Specs (I see it happen Z, sorry) so it is a guessing game sometimes.
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I have grown extremely weary of architects
I blame w.c. fields. he was the one that came up with "if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance baffle them with your ***"
ask hoppy if you can borrow her /bitchface or flavin's /reallydude? face
I would let you borrow my /I already have the whole dug where I am going to bury your body face
but we are saving that for young gentlemen that come to call on your daughters.
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So basically this is all about cost? So technically even though they originally specified what they wanted and asked for it again you're just upset that they did not acquiesce and do what you wanted them to do because it cuts into your budget even though you should have budgeted for it in the first place?
I still don't see this as a reason to question their intelligence.
Edit: It's *** like you that cause me so much more work. Cutting corners to save a couple bucks then I have to deal with 8 years of CD claims coming in and all the headaches that ensue.
I still don't see this as a reason to question their intelligence.
Edit: It's *** like you that cause me so much more work. Cutting corners to save a couple bucks then I have to deal with 8 years of CD claims coming in and all the headaches that ensue.
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I have grown extremely weary of architects saying "delineate" all the time. it's starting to make me think when they get their degree the guy pulls them aside and says "If all else fails just say 'delineate' a bunch, it'll make dummies think you're smart!"
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
am I on to something here z?
or skull do those jackwagons say it all the time over there too? or is this a regional meneace?
Sounds regional to me.
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
It may be regional, but no offense to Z, I am questiong alot of these "architects" and their degrees...
I am still upset they would not pass my Caulk submittal used at the back of kitchen countertops meeting the wall, due to it being standard interior caulking and they want exterior grade...ITS A *** EXISTING BUILDING GETTING REHABILITATED WHILE OCCUPIED!!!!! /flips countertop on their head
Umm...no not heard them say delineate, but I do see them just point out to ***in prior emails and attach it all then to give an answer directly. This one project has 900+ RFIs....like how do you design a building THAT BAD?!?!?!
I am still upset they would not pass my Caulk submittal used at the back of kitchen countertops meeting the wall, due to it being standard interior caulking and they want exterior grade...ITS A *** EXISTING BUILDING GETTING REHABILITATED WHILE OCCUPIED!!!!! /flips countertop on their head
Umm...no not heard them say delineate, but I do see them just point out to ***in prior emails and attach it all then to give an answer directly. This one project has 900+ RFIs....like how do you design a building THAT BAD?!?!?!
None taken. Used to it by now.
I know that some have been skimping and employing more staff that simply drafts rather than those who have four/five year degree. Then again, I've noticed a lot of dependency on tech rather than being more hand-on (I'm not a fan of hand-drafting either) that, in my opinion, makes people a tad more lazy minded. IDK. I haven't been overly in awe of the talent of interns during the summer.
If it's a rehab, how many recalcs do you really need for each unit? Aren't they identical? The SE and/or ARCH should shored up the structural problems, if any, before you were even in there. That's dangerous. Who's requesting RFIs after the fact, anyway? Are you sure it's not the client/s and/or investor/s?
EDIT: God! I'm so TIRED!
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Kalyna Maimhov said: »
I'm so confused.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
So basically this is all about cost? So technically even though they originally specified what they wanted and asked for it again you're just upset that they did not acquiesce and do what you wanted them to do because it cuts into your budget even though you should have budgeted for it in the first place?
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
I still don't see this as a reason to question their intelligence.
Lest we forget the Endless Waltz of hatred in this industry.
Contractors hate Architects. They hate Owners. Owners hate Contractors. I am just the sum of my existence for the last 10 years and being frustrated with them.
Also and Architects 10 years ago were better than they are now. /conjures my old and curmudgeon memory. XD
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
I was too, at first. It's quite interesting tho.
I'm curious what's gonna happen once they actually finish the game later this week (they're very very close)
I was too, at first. It's quite interesting tho.
I'm curious what's gonna happen once they actually finish the game later this week (they're very very close)
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Then again, I've noticed a lot of dependency on tech rather than being more hand-on (I'm not a fan of hand-drafting either) that, in my opinion, makes people a tad more lazy minded. IDK. I haven't been overly in awe of the talent of interns during the summer.
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
If it's a rehab, how many recalcs do you really need for each unit? Aren't they identical? The SE and/or ARCH should shored up the structural problems, if any, before you were even in there.
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
That's dangerous. Who's requesting RFIs after the fact, anyway?
Caitsith.Zahrah said: »
Are you sure it's not the client/s and/or investor/s?
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Edit: It's *** like you that cause me so much more work. Cutting corners to save a couple bucks then I have to deal with 8 years of CD claims coming in and all the headaches that ensue.
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and I hate you all because we are left to clean up the mess while you all move on to the next project someone is going to sue you for!
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\o/ Persona 5 officially announced for USA! (and PS3 only)
and persona q coming out this fall!
and persona q coming out this fall!
Once one of you contractors actually completes a job on budget without changing everything after everything has already been set and completes the job in the scheduled amount of time I might start to see you guys differently.
How could you point the finger away from yourself? It would be more like... hey guys lets all get together in one group so I can point this giant finger at all of us. Also, the cop out "well don't blame me because everyone else does it too" is the biggest bunch of ***.
***... all of you!
How could you point the finger away from yourself? It would be more like... hey guys lets all get together in one group so I can point this giant finger at all of us. Also, the cop out "well don't blame me because everyone else does it too" is the biggest bunch of ***.
***... all of you!
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
and I hate you all because we are left to clean up the mess while you all move on to the next project someone is going to sue you for!
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Once one of you contractors actually completes a job on budget
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
without changing everything after everything has already been set
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
completes the job in the scheduled amount of time I might start to see you guys differently.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
It would be more like... hey guys lets all get together in one group so I can point this giant finger at all of us.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Also, the cop out "well don't blame me because everyone else does it too" is the biggest bunch of ***.
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We'd be making good bucks by getting you to buy the policy then having you do your job correctly so the policy never triggers coverage. Every time is does it's taking money out of a carrier's pocket to either defend or indemnify you. CD claims never really seem to end either.
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
The part where the hate cycle and everyone hates on others and passes blame? I think a lot of people have been burned lately to feel like being generous as of lately. (wow my typing sucks, thank you spell check)
I usually give you a free ride as english is not your first language but I'm really having a hard time understanding you when you type stuff like this. I have no idea what you are trying to say.
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
Them sending out emails in mass and thinking its taken care of. When we can call people and take care of problem easier than just sending out emails. My Bosses prefer alling people and doing it this way and it is way I was trained. The new estimator prefers to email others and our boss sometimes yells "just pick up the phone and call him!" /shrug.
I don't know your buisness but after 13 years of sales I've regretted NOT having a paper trail more than I've regretted not making a call instead. It's more of a "CYO" for me.
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
I also notice this. NOt just in architects but in general practice. Them sending out emails in mass and thinking its taken care of. When we can call people and take care of problem easier than just sending out emails. My Bosses prefer alling people and doing it this way and it is way I was trained. The new estimator prefers to email others and our boss sometimes yells "just pick up the phone and call him!" /shrug.
I call out of habit/courtesy/confirmation that they've received updated specs/plans, because I did intern with a GC in college because of slim pickin's, and you build a better rapport with your usuals. You're right that e-mails can be ineffective, but at their worst, they're very impersonal. Then again, if you're at a bigger firm, I'm sure you just don't give a flying ***.
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
The subs are asking so many coordination questions and additional information that the drawings were lacking, when we all signed contracts.
-.- Client/investor demands? Budgetary concerns? Investor dropped out...LAWSUIT and COUNTERSUITS! AHHH! So many variables.
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
That own owner/group, from TX oddly, is partially to blame.
LOL!
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
Them sending out emails in mass and thinking its taken care of. When we can call people and take care of problem easier than just sending out emails. My Bosses prefer alling people and doing it this way and it is way I was trained. The new estimator prefers to email others and our boss sometimes yells "just pick up the phone and call him!" /shrug.
Edit: If someone sends you emails and you don't get around to it because you'd just rather have them call you then it's on you too at that point.
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