SE Wants You To Bring Along "gimp" Players...

Delve is just that-- needs coordination, precision, and attentive players. You have to be on your toes and listen to instructions well, and be prepared-- gears, skills-- just to fight NMs in Delve.

I don't know how it is on other servers, but on Bismarck it's been quite a problem. My friends, LS mates, and myself have been having a sleiu of bad luck with people who don't know what they're doing in many Delve runs. Hence, my post regarding about not leeching in Abyssea and learning your own job first. Sure, you can do it at level 99 but with other people a) not willing to teach others how to play and b) harping for not spending the time to gear up properly, how AND when AND where are they supposed to learn?

Answer me that.

You cannot expect them to get +2 Empyrean gear, a Relic to 99 or a Delve weapon within a week. Not everyone has the time available to them to dedicate that in such a short amount of time. You also have to consider real life obligations such as work, family, school, medical conditions, etc. And, in-game issues such as lack of dedicated endgame LS or lack of friends to do things with. There are a lot of variables that can affect why he or she cannot be at the "level of standards" set by the "elite few" in the game.

Empathy and sympathy are good words to learn here. If I can do that for others, then others have the capacity to do the same. It is not difficult to do.

My friends and LS mates have had...
... WHM who refused to cure until we're near death. Split second reactions can matter in a lot fights. Waiting until we're near death to cure can mean the difference between a wipe and a win. WHMs need to be on their toes.
... DRK who used Endark on Raptor NM in Delve when already repeated a dozen times in party chat before entry and before engaging the raptor, yet one DRK screwed up the fight.
... BRD who refused to use Lullaby (and literally had a fourth of his Lullabys resist) because he didn't want to get killed.

I'm willing to teach people if they are willing to learn and remember what was told and what was taught. However, like I said, a teacher can only go halfway, thus the rest to be accomplished by the student.

I'm willing to lead runs-- Delve, Voidwatch, or even Legion, but I've just got back to the game a little over two months ago. I'm still wet behind the ears with Voidwatch, and I'm getting a better grasp of how Delve is done day by day. Salvage II I'm starting to get a better grasp of it now with my static, since I'm now primarily the one doing the strategizing and planning since I've had previous experience with Salvage I sets myself. I ask friends for Salvage II tips and we try it. Trial and error is how we learn what to do and what not to do in Salvage II, and it's working out a lot. However, no one seems to be doing Legion on Bismarck nowadays from the looks of it but I'd like to try it.

Again, teacher takes the student halfway, but the student does the other half him/herself until he/she learns the material better.

However, for me, I'm a very visual learner. I have to see how it's done in order for me to learn it. Reading BG Wiki and Forums can only go halfway. If I can see it with my own eyes how more Voidwatch and Delve and Legion runs are done, the faster and better I learn how to do them. I've been a sackholder for three endgame and two of those were HNM LSes in the past, so I know how to strategize and organize groups. But, it takes time to learn these events before one can lead them. It didn't take me overnight to learn how to fight Nidhogg and Fafnir, or Kirin. I've had to participate in LS fights or helping friends in their LSes and paying attention how the fights are done, what gears to wear, what to cast and what not to cast, etc.

And, that's the thing-- it takes time to learn any event even new ones before one would feel both ready and competent enough to lead one themselves. Every person learns at different rates and in different ways. I'm a visually-oriented person, but others may not be the same way. I'm looking and wanting to do more Voidwatch runs since I still need to clear Windurst, San'doria then eventually Jeuno first. It just doesn't look like anyone is doing them. One of my LSes doesn't show much interest in doing them either. So, I'm literally stuck between a rock and a hard place. If I wasn't gone for two years from the game, I would have learned how to do Voidwatch [and Legion] and lead them myself. I'm just not blessed with the luxury unfortunately.

People need to be patient and understanding with others. Not everyone is capable of leading even a decent Delve run after just doing one or two runs themselves. You can't just throw a bunch of random players together, two non-Ochain Paladins, and hope to scrape by with more than 2000 Plasm. It takes time learn any kind of event in this game that SE throws at us-- new Dynamis, Neo Nyzul Isle, Salvage II, Delve, Skirmish, Wildkeeper Reives, etc. Heck, it took me about two weeks to learn how to do the new Dynamis and figuring what triggers what monster in there. I'm so old-school that I'm still used to the idea of two 18-man alliances in Dynamis because that's how long I've been away from the game.

Again, empathy and sympathy are really two good traits to learn if you are still a human being. It can go a long way, whether in real life or in a game with real people.