E3 2013

Microsoft in charge of charging 100$ more for actually less.

So basically I'm seeing the main difference being DDR3 and DDR5 ram, that's not going to be a huge difference and there are a lot of factors that could even that playing field that we don't know. I.E. High MHz on XBoxs Ram and Low on PS4's ect. Also comparing custom GPUs to store bought GPUs, which isn't fair either.

also, no one is adding in the fact that Xbox One can do server side computing in a cloud environment, which could theoretically give a lot more power.

XB1
- 3GB RAM reserved for OS, 5GB available for games
- 2 CPU cores reserved for OS, 6 available for games
- 10% of GPU reserved for OS, 90% available for games
- Change channels and watch TV through the console (through pre-arranged partnerships, none confirmed as of yet)
- Blu-ray/DVD optical drive
- "Snap" mode allows for seamless transition between games, movies, TV, etc.
- Kinect 2 mandatory for console to operate
- Mandatory installs for all software (requires console to be online)
- Software tied to LIVE ID
- No Backwards Compatibility
- HDMI in/out only
- 4K TV compatible
- Smartglass second screen
- Cross-game video and audio chat via Skype app
- Exclusive launch lineup of Forza 5
- 3rd party launch lineup of Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, Call of Duty: Ghosts
- LIVE will continue to exist as it did this gen, with all online multiplayer and entertainment features behind a paywall (pricing not yet announced)
- Games can be suspended and resumed, even after turning off console
- System has constant access to the "Cloud", which could be theoretically used to offload AI routines and the like to take load off of the CPU
- Controller now features force feedback triggers (awesome), internal AA batteries, improved d-pad, Start + Select renamed to Menu and View
- Headset not included, and not compatible with previous gen headsets
- Achievement system carries over from 360
- Releasing in North America in 2013
- Region-locked

PS4
- Separate chip for Encoding/Decoding and various other tasks
- Blu-ray/DVD optical drive
- Will not play CDs
- There is a dedicated Share button on the controller. You can send snippets of recorded video straight to a friend and even invite them to watch your game, or allow them to take over your gameplay if you want them to.
- Backwards Compatibility through on-board Gaikai streaming (likely subscription-based, not likely available at launch)
- All PS4 software remote playable on PS VITA through Gaikai streaming (voodoo magic)
- Sharing and social functions controllable via iPad
- HDMI, RCA and Optical outputs
- 4K TV compatible
- VITA second screen
- Cross-game video, text and audio chat via OS
- Exclusive launch lineup of inFAMOUS: Second Son, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Drive Club and Knack
- 3rd party launch lineup of Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag, Call of Duty: Ghosts
- Games can be suspended and resumed, even after turning off console
- Dual Shock 4 features much beefier size, tighter analog sticks, proper R2 triggers, and multi-touch touchpad, internal speaker and a light bar for motion control and identifying players
- Compatible with previous gen peripherals including headsets, keyboards and PS Move (not compatible with Dual Shock 3)
- Trophy system carries over from PS3
- Headset included
- Releasing in North America and Europe in 2013

also, no one is adding in the fact that Xbox One can do server side computing in a cloud environment, which could theoretically give a lot more power and help substantially with load times ect.

The bars in the previous post shows the clear difference.

Xbox One is behind on every single thing when it comes to hardware, basically. Only thing it's "up to date" with is the HDD size.

and again, you don't understand that I'm saying it's not fair to compare custom architecture to store bought ones and to stop looking at the ram past the first number after the DDR

cause theoretically PS3 destroyed XBox360 in terms of just raw numbers, but you wouldn't know that looking at 95% of the games. Especially mutli platform games

So basically I'm seeing the main difference being DDR3 and DDR5 ram, that's not going to be a huge difference and there are a lot of factors that could even that playing field that we don't know. I.E. High MHz on XBoxs Ram and Low on PS4's ect. Also comparing custom GPUs to store bought GPUs, which isn't fair either.

Honestly I wouldn't get too riled up about Gib. He tends to go against the grain of mainstream thought on most things.

Because the PS3 was extremely hard to program on until very recently.

It has nothing to do with the actual hardware.

The bottom line is: Xbox One is 100$ more expensive for lesser hardware and a worse concept, linked to the hardware.

Shhhhhhhhhut upppp

Again, as always, I keep hearing "Higher Number = Auto Win"

consoles are not black and white like that

yeah I know, I read your post, lazy programing caused bad ports, that's common knowledge

I'm saying comparing two parts of hardware in an entire console and demeaning one superior is grey area logic at best

The only true lead Xbone has at this point is the lead Xbox 360 brought it. Once that is used up all that Xbone will have to rely on is its sub par hardware and outrageous restrictions.

re read, and i'm officially done trying to get through to you. spend all your damn money idgaf lol.

play what you want to play at the end of the day it's your money.


but at the end of the day PS4>XBONE (lame name to boot)

Oh you!

Imagine that, I play a console for games not "These theoretical numbers on this part of hardware are higher! I.E. Better!"

Cause we know better more power equal better games. I mean that's why the vastly inferior 3DS is totally tanking compared to the vastly more powerful hand held juggernaut that is called the PS Vita!

Speaking of Vita

Really excited for the upcoming Vita support tbh. The games they showcased look pretty damn good, and I already get a lot of use out of mine (minority I supposed) via its current library and as a media device.

Really excited for the upcoming Vita support tbh. The games they showcased look pretty damn good, and I already get a lot of use out of mine (minority I supposed) via its current library and as a media device.

I get a lot of use out of mine as well. To each their own I guess.