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 Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-14 08:11:35  
Fenrir.Camiie said: »
So if I get those last 30 levels on WHM, slap on a chatoyant staff, and dig out my NQ Marduk's set I'm good to go? Sweet!

I said they are more gear insensitive not that they are completely gear insensitive but if you want to make yourself look stupid it's not my problem
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-14 08:12:08  
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So if I get those last 30 levels on WHM, slap on a chatoyant staff, and dig out my NQ Marduk's set I'm good to go? Sweet!
would invite just for the party chat
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-14 08:13:38  
I suck at managing mp on whm, it's why I only used it in abyssea <.< and I get scared if I have to heal outside party too!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-14 08:19:58  
I'd rather gear BRD properly if I have to go the support route, buffing and pulling is an enjoyable pace. My only issue would be to be turned down because of no Daurdabla.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-14 08:22:53  
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I'd rather gear BRD properly if I have to go the support route, buffing and pulling is an enjoyable pace. My only issue would be to be turned down because of no Daurdabla.
I'd feel embarrassed playing BRD without Daurdabla and Gjallarhorn. :(
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-14 08:24:58  
A cornette is all you need.

Actually, ***, singing is good enough. Just tell them you got a good voice!
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-14 08:26:29  
I *have* had a couple teachers tell me I have a good voice!
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By Asura.Vishna 2013-05-14 08:32:46  
Support jobs may not even work unless you deck it out too. Already saw shouts asking for 3-4 song capable Bards.
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By Dmoney 2013-05-14 08:34:15  
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As far as "needing" a arma to get in on cor, your *** joking, right? As long as they keep rolls up on dd and Mage who gives a ***what gun they have.
I wish I was, but no, my cor, fully capable of pulling or sleeping and obviously buffing was turned down for not having an arma last night.

He then went on to shout for a cor for the next hour and a half.
Same guy that only wanted rank6+ delve DD though so I didn't expect to get a different answer.
Obviously not needed, but if getting an arma can help someone avoid that crap, they may as well get on it. Should probably give up on delve for a bit and get back to work on mine.
Though it probably looks this way, I'm not mad about any of the above, just a little disappointing. He did reply to tell at least, usually just ignored now.
Total quote fail at first...
If you were turned down by Avn, it's not really worth mentioning.

LOL this guy sounds like a dumbass . I'm all for delve dd only runs 6-8k is better then 2-4k plasm a run BUT if ur doing it right the cor shouldn't have time to ws.... cor/brd should be feeding DD mobs nonstop. And in the 1Hr 1/2 he spent shouting for that cor he could have done 2 runs hahaha some poeple will never have success no matter how hard they try. And own a side note I've seen a few 99 E/R dd that do more then delve dd. It depends more on the player in some cases like delve dd with ***ws set vs 99r/e with top notch sets
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-14 08:40:11  
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
I'd rather gear BRD properly if I have to go the support route, buffing and pulling is an enjoyable pace. My only issue would be to be turned down because of no Daurdabla.

Yeah JP groups on Fenrir frequently require Derpderpala BRDs =X!
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-05-14 08:50:24  
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
So if I get those last 30 levels on WHM, slap on a chatoyant staff, and dig out my NQ Marduk's set I'm good to go? Sweet!

I said they are more gear insensitive not that they are completely gear insensitive but if you want to make yourself look stupid it's not my problem

Yikes! This is what I get for kidding around. I'll be all serious business from now on!
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2013-05-14 08:50:40  
Been required to have Armageddon to get clear for the gun I'll be using with Wildfire once they change up WoE to give WS to all weapons. I guess that will be a while so I'll probably have to do Armageddon - and by the time I'm done nobody will do T4/5 in Morimar anymore lol.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-14 08:51:01  
I've yet to see a single shout here on Bismarck having any sort of requirements to join other than Ochain for PLDs.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-14 08:59:02  
Arguments aside I think plasma farming is boring as hell. NM are fine, but plasma is like an abyssea exp party, I hate it.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-14 09:04:31  
Welp, I guess I'll just level my COR to 99 and answer shouts with my Armageddon 80. I'd feel bad playing BRD with 2 songs but it would only last one key item anyway.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-05-14 09:27:07  
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The one who organizes the run can do as he pleases.

If anyone doesn't like it, they can make their own run.
Yet probably 75% of the people here who agree with this think that conservatives are evil lol... Same concept. "R/M/E ONRY" or "Delve weapons ONRY" are rewarding those who already have with the opportunities to have more, not on a moral judgment, but because of their value to the group.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-14 09:28:05  
Are you serious?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-05-14 09:35:14  
Only the conspiracy theorist nutjobs link everything to politics.
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2013-05-14 09:41:00  
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Only the conspiracy theorist nutjobs link everything to politics.
Nice ad hom and hyperbole.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-14 09:45:53  
Please forgive me for not applying the same moral rubric to delve farming that I do to the well-being of human beings in society.

God I'm deplorable.

For the record I will always try to fit a player whom I know will make a contribution on another job if I don'kt need the job they ask to come on or it doesn't meet some requirement, especially if they need clears for progression etc.

So even though Senkyuutai hates me I would try to fit him in on COR for example because I know he isn't dumb and can probably follow instructions. If it gets to the point of clear on inviting a friend or player to leech I won't do that without asking everyone in the alliance first, though
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By Chyula 2013-05-14 10:11:14  
I think we should toss E&M out and left with R&D, acc play large role in delve farm.
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By Bismarck.Llewelyn 2013-05-14 10:23:36  
It's nowhere near as much of a problem as people are making it out to be.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-14 10:46:13  
Hate is a strong word, I don't hate people, I dislike them at best.

This kind of attitude is respectable, though. *blushes*
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By Chyula 2013-05-14 10:59:08  
I like how some of these elites talk about gimps lack of effort to farm up REM when many of them fished up multiple relics, I guess nothing beats 24/7 selling those fish.

content should not be developed base rem level, it should be effectly doable with good lower tier gears. they can raise the grinding process to 5 10 20yrs to let the elites have their humongus epeen. after all if they waste that much time on it they should be playing in god mode.
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By Siren.Taruina 2013-05-14 11:22:48  
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content should not be developed base rem level, it should be effectly doable with good lower tier gears.

False, even devs have said that this is for people who have mastered previous content and have even suggested that players having issues with the difficulty of the content, revisit older (lower-tier content) and try again.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-05-14 11:32:20  
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I like how some of these elites talk about gimps lack of effort to farm up REM when many of them fished up multiple relics, I guess nothing beats 24/7 selling those fish.

content should not be developed base rem level, it should be effectly doable with good lower tier gears. they can raise the grinding process to 5 10 20yrs to let the elites have their humongus epeen. after all if they waste that much time on it they should be playing in god mode.

Fishing gives pocket money, if you want to cap gils crafting is the way to go.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-14 11:42:31  
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I like how some of these elites talk about gimps lack of effort to farm up REM when many of them fished up multiple relics, I guess nothing beats 24/7 selling those fish.

content should not be developed base rem level, it should be effectly doable with good lower tier gears. they can raise the grinding process to 5 10 20yrs to let the elites have their humongus epeen. after all if they waste that much time on it they should be playing in god mode.
Not everyone is out in Beaucedine to farm their relics.
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-05-14 11:51:16  
Some people are just proving their laziness when they think you get a relic by fish botting 24/7.
A good crafter could save 45 days of fishing in one day everyday.
If you're too lazy to craft that's your problem.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-14 11:58:54  
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
The one who organizes the run can do as he pleases.

If anyone doesn't like it, they can make their own run.
Yet probably 75% of the people here who agree with this think that conservatives are evil lol... Same concept. "R/M/E ONRY" or "Delve weapons ONRY" are rewarding those who already have with the opportunities to have more, not on a moral judgment, but because of their value to the group.
Oh good, I was hoping that the paranoid delusional community would chime in with their perspective on the Delve-only crisis.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-05-14 12:12:20  
Tbh I dont see a problem with delve weapons only if groups are wanting the most plasm they can get or the quickest NM kills they arent going to do that with people with garbage weapons. Yes people might be unlucky with KI groups or might not have the plasm but tough just need to wait out on groups that dont shout for it. To be fair I think this stuff is aimed at large lses rather than shout groups. Those that dont have the KIs now either just suck or unlucky. Today I saw a group doing tax'et depop on them and 3 groups that the peiste depopped.

Ive been in a jp group who failed at the peiste even with delve weapons. Rdms didnt keep it blinded the brd rotation happened once then had 2 songs up or none and no cors. Told the leader what to do to win and got the reply is that battle strat is good but we are doing it this way. People rotating will get tired and wont win..... I was like dafuk and promtly left. They tired the moth as well which they didnt win. My ls was doing it a lil later was going to have him come and watch us kill it with 10mins left but he logged.
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