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 Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-04 16:48:01  
Valefor.Angierus said: »
Is rank 15 the cap? or does it go above that? >_>;


15 is cap
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-05-04 16:56:01  
Hmm, I may have miscalculated the augments.
Is the total stats; Acc+27, STR+17, ATK+15 with Rank 15 (Base+STR+10, ATK+15, ACC+10)?
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-04 17:23:11  
Odin.Zelphes said: »
Hmm, I may have miscalculated the augments.
Is the total stats; Acc+27, STR+17, ATK+15 with Rank 15 (Base+STR+10, ATK+15, ACC+10)?


Yes
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-05-04 17:57:16  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Odin.Zelphes said: »
Hmm, I may have miscalculated the augments.
Is the total stats; Acc+27, STR+17, ATK+15 with Rank 15 (Base+STR+10, ATK+15, ACC+10)?


Yes

Updated numbers to reflect on changes.
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-05-04 18:17:29  
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A bit off topic, but from a pure DPS standpoint how would koga AM3+apex arrow fair assuming you were starting with 300tp? From a purely hypothetical standpoint with capped acc, just curious if it would be a worthwhile toy.

You probably got this in mind when asking about this.


Should just use a better multi-attack weapon like quint or OAT GK when spamming Apex. AM3 is too much of a bother just for rapid TP gain, not to mention you have to save up 300 TP everytime it's about to wear.
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By Valefor.Smush 2013-05-04 19:12:57  
Can you do this for the Tsurumaru please?
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By Odin.Zelphes 2013-05-04 19:19:07  
Valefor.Smush said: »
Can you do this for the Tsurumaru please?

Can be found here: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36563/bushido-the-way-of-the-samurai-a-guide/16/
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By Asura.Hyden 2013-05-07 23:37:31  
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Asura.Sutebe said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Asura.Sutebe said: »
anyone think of a build with the new bow? if it gets str aug it could be impressive on sam


An Apex build could be fun but more of a toy. One of the biggest selling points of Namas spam was it was hate free. You could stand behind a mob and just spam Namas with little fear of ever taking hate. You could also avoid the annoying stuns/amnesia moves from Mul lvl mobs.
Sorry I wasn't clear, I mean 10 str in ammo slot instead of hagnea stone or needle. I've not seen bow augs yet but I'm assuming its similar to other weapons but racc and ratt. The raw str stat though might make it worth having in slot just for the WS mod.


That would be an expensive 10str! But yeah would be best in slot.
Can anyone confirm the third stat on the Type: A bow? It looks like bgwiki is listing it as AGI and not STR.
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By Alexander.Slayor 2013-05-16 14:34:26  
sub "Rose Strap"
back "Tactical Mantle";
ammo "Hagneia Stone";
ear1 "Steelflash Earring";
ear2 "Bladeborn Earring";
waist "Phos Belt +1";
feet "Usk. Sune-Ate +1";
neck "Asperity Necklace";
ring1 "Rajas Ring";
main "Uguisumaru"
head "Phorcys Salade";
ring2 "K'ayres Ring";
hands "Tenryu Tekko +1";
legs "Unkai Haidate +2";
body "Unkai Domaru +2";

I was wondering if this set was worth it, it gives you 99 stp (counting trait) which gives 21.29 tp per hit allowing you to ws in 4 stp(strap) and get:

99Stp
10.7 x 1.44 = 15.4 + (21.29 x 4)= 100.568

I know PEMDAS states i dont need parentheses for these, but its more visually appealing to me at least.

98Stp(tyrants ring)
10.7 x 1.44 = 15.4 + (21.18 x 4) = 100.144

With the new gear its probably sacrificing to much, but i figured since i needed 98-99 stp to get this set to work. I would try throwing a set together with a 5hit and decent acc gear for newer content.
 
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By Alexander.Slayor 2013-05-16 14:57:49  
It IS if you break into another hit build and dont hit for 0 5hit-35att/3DA>6hit

im looking for more of an answer along the lines of your sacrificing to many multi attacks, or not enough accuracy for newer content or even your sacrificing to much power from new gear.
I haven't had the pleasure of doing the higher tier new content atm and i am unsure of how acc is being affected.

Also this is a random set i threw together for shiggles, but it didnt loook TO bad unless the new stuff is EXTREMELY evasive. which if it is means this set wont work because acc issues kill a hit build.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-05-17 19:45:48  
You can 5-hit w/o touching Tactical. If you get a K'ayres, it lets you swap Misuuchi for Atheling/Letalis.

ItemSet 245540

Only takes StoreTP+10 on WS set which is covered by Rose+Rajas+Brutal (or Steelflash/Bladeborn if your Moonshade doesn't have Tpbonus+25)
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-18 09:19:44  
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
You can 5-hit w/o touching Tactical. If you get a K'ayres, it lets you swap Misuuchi for Atheling/Letalis.

ItemSet 245540

Only takes StoreTP+10 on WS set which is covered by Rose+Rajas+Brutal (or Steelflash/Bladeborn if your Moonshade doesn't have Tpbonus+25)



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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-05-18 17:47:25  
Facepalm what? He asked about 5-hit sets so I showed him one.

EDIT: Unless you meant he could totally have just looked at the other thread and my answering him I ran the risk of derailing thread.
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By Alexander.Slayor 2013-05-20 03:51:24  
You do also have a 5hit, however by swapping phos/tact/asper for misu/ganesha/goading you essentially traded:
3%haste for 2quad 7att 1DA
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
Facepalm what? He asked about 5-hit sets
I did?
Alexander.Slayor said: »
I was wondering if this set was worth it
Alexander.Slayor said: »
With the new gear its probably sacrificing to much
Alexander.Slayor said: »
im looking for more of an answer along the lines of your sacrificing to many multi attacks, or not enough accuracy for newer content or even your sacrificing to much power from new gear.

I have had the chance to talk to an amano sam, who is having acc issues even using sole sushi +1. That alone makes a 5 hit useless on any bosses in the newer content. Now wondering how does that set compare in acc capped situations(old content), to a fully geared 6hit. Is it beaten out by raw power and multi attacks or does the 5hit pull ahead due to ws frequency?
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By Shogunazzazzin 2013-05-24 20:30:20  
Does anyone know the location of Uguisumaru .dat? Looking to swap it out.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-24 21:01:11  
idk what race you are but it's 1/30/1 for hume male
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By Shogunazzazzin 2013-05-25 17:06:28  
Thank you Prothescar.
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-05-25 17:57:55  
For anyone else curious, it's the same model as "Honebami" so it'll be that dat location.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-05-28 06:57:39  
Does any of this take into account the monsters stupid evasion? (Not talking Ciezek message). I have yet to see anyone auto-capping attack / accuracy fighting the NMs and most of Morimar and I do tons of parsing. I feel getting a solid baseline for acceptable accuracy is important as far too many well geared DD's are hitting 65~70% acc in Morimar.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-05-28 07:56:21  
Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Does any of this take into account the monsters stupid evasion? (Not talking Ciezek message). I have yet to see anyone auto-capping attack / accuracy fighting the NMs and most of Morimar and I do tons of parsing. I feel getting a solid baseline for acceptable accuracy is important as far too many well geared DD's are hitting 65~70% acc in Morimar.


Yeah against the peiste NM peeps was hitting below 30% you just can't dps what you can't hit...
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-05-28 08:09:02  
The rampant evasion has caused me to reevaluate my builds and focus a bit more on acc over DA / attack. People have become FAR to comfortable with the Voidwatch / Abyssea mentality of "setting accuracy to 95%" when doing builds. I hit about 89~92% acc in Morimar plasm farming without food or acc buffs, I figure that's a good solid starting point.
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By Ragnarok.Godsmack 2013-05-28 09:02:34  
Shogunazzazzin said: »
Does anyone know the location of Uguisumaru .dat? Looking to swap it out.
don't do it please...DELVE WEAPONS ARE BEAUTYFULL!!!!
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-28 10:55:01  
Hi,

For ugui delve fodder farm(3song/cor/boost str)

ItemSet 302402

I have this ahead of other set assuming 10 stp on ws (rajas/kari feet).
Can anyone confirm/find something better? (I only included easy/buyable gear, I know Tojil head/stp+5 rings are increase).
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By Cerberus.Taint 2013-05-28 12:59:41  
ItemSet 302223

Beats the above set. (should have Duplus not sure why he's using Rose) (actually mala winning over asperity as well)


This 6hit beats your set too:
ItemSet 299677

It also allows an easy toggle to this set for NMs:
ItemSet 278096
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-05-28 15:34:40  
Yeah I use a different set for NM, I'll see if I can replicate your result later, thx.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-05-29 04:13:31  
Taint you realize Duplus Grip is 40~80 million gil depending on server. I tend to leave items like that and augmented legion +1 abjurations out of consideration due to rarity and cost vs actual improvement. Phos belt +1 is in the same category. Nice to have but shouldn't be considered when doing standardized sets. AH / NNI / Tier I~V Delve gear / Salvage +1 gear is all fair game though.
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-05-29 04:21:23  
Ccl's set already had Duplus listed. I don't think either of them are after or care about the sets for average players, they seem to be aiming for the top there.
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