These New-age WHM Make Me /sigh

Ok Enternius, you are right about Joyeuse is better DD-wise, but since when does a PLD DD?

Enmity-wise? Not so sure....I mean, sure, a mob would hate you a little more if you keep whacking him with a little bitty *** sword all the time, and you can spam Atonement a lot more, but~



REALLY look at Burtgang hard. Notice something weird?

"Reduce Enmity Decrease when tanking damage"

Hmm....

You know, this could make a PLD/WAR tank viable. I mean sure, it creates a need for a good WHM. But, you need a good WHM anyway. It also creates a need for a good tank. Defender is your friend, and with this, and D.Ring, ANYTHING that hits you will do as much damage to you as if you were wearing a Earth Staff. AND you get to wear a shield too.

Add on a couple more items (Askar Feet, Odin Body + Helm, maybe Jelly Ring, and since the person in question is a gilbuyer, he could afford an Aegis easy) and all of the sudden, you got a tank that has a damage resist of 37%. WITHOUT Protect. I would kill to have this kindof equipment. I would show the world the wonders of a PLD/WAR tank again.

Just shut up, you're an idiot.

You forgot something

You can double attack with Burtgang....

I'm not saying Burtgang isn't better for tanking. It most definitely is.

I'm saying that if you're doing Atonement twice a minute, outDDing every other DD you have, you will keep hate better than, well, everyone else. And that's a fact.

Seems to be every gilbuyer's response to my queries.

Ok, here's my retort: Prove me wrong.

Mythic weapons only have native Double Attack if you store TP to 300 before WSing.

Eh... wipes happen, i don't think the Curaga comment was in relation too HNM lols >_> anyways dynamis is a good example of the usefulness of a lower mp cost curaga, and anyone that says they've never wiped there is most likely full of it. It doesn't have too be that particular spell, regardless its still useful.

Possibly they only have BLM leveled, or they have BLM and a tank job and those spots were already filled in the alliance. What does any of this matter, you dont *need* a bunch of RDM/DRKS too take down Khim either, if thats how you do it good for you. None of this makes /BLM the be all and end all sub end game lol, which was my original argument. If ive fought said NMs and not needed too /BLM then its obviously not a necessity..

Outside HNM /SCH definitely outshines any other sub, at least at 75. In the above mentioned situations other subs are nice /SMN for some salvage, /BLM for ES, but for overall efficiency i prefer /SCH. Its all personal choice in the end, no one can tell you how too play your game lol.. no wait, botting is lame!



I are highly amused..

You do the most damage with Atonement with 300% TP.

By that time you get 300% TP (if you haven't already thanks to sleep pots + Opo-Opo, a SAM in the party, or just general getting hit) you would have gotten enough hate to hit the enmity cap for 100% TP, but you would have hit it at 300% TP instead. Which gives you the perfect opportunity to "BAM" get the double attack.

I'm just saying, having a Burtgang plus most of the damage reduction gear would make any PLD a great PLD/WAR tank, a literal "blood tank." Since very few people actually went this far (Ikuni from Asura is just missing a D.Ring) it hasn't been tested as of yet.

But seriously though, just think about it.

Stay back to the topic, this is not a pld thread. Thanks. :)

I thought for Atonement, dmg was capped no matter what TP you do it with, it's just if you're not capped higher TP will help you reach cap faster.

Pretty sure just doing 100% tp atonements will not only help you get to enmity cap faster but will also maintain it better...

As for blood tanking, the problem is all that gear you're wearing takes away from your ability to keep hate since it's like -10% slow + losing the 4/5% from head. Not to mention you're sacrificing AF/+1 feet, one of the best dmg reduction pieces readily available.

"Cure IV is less hate then Cure V dumbshit!"
/sigh
Whats next.... "Raise 1 gives more xp back then Raise 3"

please don't put ideas in their heads lol.

I think every WHM needs to read Kaeko's emnity testing, at the least.

Hell, every player.

.................... What the ***, are you *** living under a *** tree you stupid dumb ***?

{Alyria} Warning to stop, I've already asked to stay on the topic. Take flaming to flame core. Thanks.

Are you seriously trying too say V is more hate there? <_<

http://kanican.livejournal.com/17795.html

No no i mean who the hell said that, makes me /wrist :(

Actually, Dasva said it about 2 pages ago, lol.

Oh and to one of Korpg's earlier posts, BLMs get 19.09% Slow with super capped MND gear. While WHMs cap @ 43.99 Slow I with full MND gear.

So

Elegy = x (50%)
Slow I = y (43.99%)

Do the math x + y = Wut?

While ES on BLM can be used for a fully unresisted AM II with an SC that can output up to about 4k damage on a Fafnir if your BLM is worth a ***. Oh and lvl 65 level sync on fafnir, I bet you beat it you are the legendary Art after all. But Fafnir is so easy now a days that I'm sure if you did it to 60 with 18 people you can woop his ***. I single tanked Fafnir with 7 people and beat him in 40 minutes, nothing hard just don't suck and make your WHMs come /BLM like smart people would do.

Wth, where are you getting info that whm slow caps at 43.99? lol

Slow cap is same independent of job.

Fight an HNM then talk, you have 1 75 and no king titles. My lvl 1 mule has a king title. >.>

BLM can get +90 MND, WHM can get +97. I don't think 17 MND (there's a 10 base difference /SCH, just cause that's what I was subbing atm) will equal a 23% change.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

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lol

Look at the chart on an Elvaan fully merited 5/5 MND and full MND gear with ES. It was tested ages ago on BG, I'm sure if you dig far enough you'll find it. Yes you may be right about the independent job thing but some jobs get more stats then others, just about finding the right game mechanics.

Someone posted above the max +mnd for each job, though I'd have to go and verify it myself to be sure, offhand whm and blm shouldn't be that far off from each other.

Too lazy to look up BG testing, but checked the Japanese wiki, it lists a 30% absolute cap on slow I.

Do you one better. http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/58770-slow-hojo-slow-ii.html

Keep digging, this is fun.

I'm just glad you're smart and have HNM experience and titles vs these idiots who never even touched an HNM outside of Nyzul. It sorta disgusts me, considering if I didn't know about car mechanics why would I talk about it? Same applies to HNM, don't talk about it if you don't know about them. Lol

And yeah sorry about the staying on topic but i thought i would address these two.

A PALADIN SHOULD NOT BE TRYING TO FIT THE ROLE OF A *** DD... YOU ARE A PALADIN NOT A SAMURAI... feel free to switch your job and let someone else play PLD the way it *** should be... as a tank....

you know... the one that keeps hate?... the one that takes in all the heavy hitting ***.... the one that needs damage reduction down like whats on the burtgang?....

Stop kidding yourself as if your some godsend DD and play your *** job correctly... what next? Aegis damage reduction sucks and should get a Attack+ shield?

Anyone who takes a joyeuse over a burtgang so they can DD needs to stop *** playing paladin and go jump on the samurai bandwagon.

/end rant

good *** night atlanta... i'll be here all week... tip your *** waitress.