Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
However, relics require rank 6 in at least one of the starter nations and access to Dynamis zones.
Really?
Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"
Matsui: "Don't throw away your R/M/E weapons yet"
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Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »
Carbuncle.Sambb said: »
Ragnarok 99 is still better even against the best augmented skirmish sword. They are very close granted and if I didn't have a ragnarok I would most likely chase a crobaci instead over dumping money into rag. However this would be purely for the convenience, Rag is still pretty much the best but its lead has been significantly reduced.
This pretty much sums up how I feel, why should I make new relics or more relics when the new stuff is cheaper and either better or slightly subpar and alot less time to invest into. Convenience is a big issue, if i'm going to spend months getting 1 single weapon, I don't want it to be marginally better or subpar to something I can get in 1-2 weeks.
We now know 100% they are getting a boost, so we just need to wait and see what this is.
IMO atm it still very much is worth making a relic if your dedicated to said job being a main. If your not you now have a very good alternative that allows you to be included in party set ups without being frowned upon for not having a golden weapon and this is what SE wanted imo.
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volkom said: »
Be funny if SE says you got to do a series of rigorous quests to get a ki that will double the stats on your r/m/e
That's still better than having the weapons outdated. Oh and hey look that would be new content for people to team up and do.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
Yes, really. Are you that unaware? Or are you a troll?
Odin.Brozzzz said: »
volkom said: »
Be funny if SE says you got to do a series of rigorous quests to get a ki that will double the stats on your r/m/e
That's still better than having the weapons outdated. Oh and hey look that would be new content for people to team up and do.
Dont you mean more content for people to dual box instead of having to do with real people?
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Quiznor said: »
Odin.Brozzzz said: »
volkom said: »
Be funny if SE says you got to do a series of rigorous quests to get a ki that will double the stats on your r/m/e
That's still better than having the weapons outdated. Oh and hey look that would be new content for people to team up and do.
Dont you mean more content for people to dual box instead of having to do with real people?
Either way you look at it, it's something to do. I'm not going to get into the arguement of everything in this game can be dual boxed, but it seems SE is trying to get people away from that mentality with events like skirmish. Where splitting the cost between 6 real people is much more feasible than 2-3 people with alts.
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Carbuncle.Sambb said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »
Carbuncle.Sambb said: »
Ragnarok 99 is still better even against the best augmented skirmish sword. They are very close granted and if I didn't have a ragnarok I would most likely chase a crobaci instead over dumping money into rag. However this would be purely for the convenience, Rag is still pretty much the best but its lead has been significantly reduced.
This pretty much sums up how I feel, why should I make new relics or more relics when the new stuff is cheaper and either better or slightly subpar and alot less time to invest into. Convenience is a big issue, if i'm going to spend months getting 1 single weapon, I don't want it to be marginally better or subpar to something I can get in 1-2 weeks.
We now know 100% they are getting a boost, so we just need to wait and see what this is.
IMO atm it still very much is worth making a relic if your dedicated to said job being a main. If your not you now have a very good alternative that allows you to be included in party set ups without being frowned upon for not having a golden weapon and this is what SE wanted imo.
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Bahamut.Kiralai said: »
That's exactly how I feel about it. I hope that, post-update, the gap between R/E/M and the other alternatives isn't as wide as it has been. R/E/M should be superior, but not so much so that your job isn't considered acceptably geared without one. I've wanted to play around with my MNK and PUP for awhile, but haven't been able to justify it because I don't have Verethragna/Kenkonken yet.
I think the reason there has been a gap is outside of REMs, is because of a lack of other 99 Weapons, alot of weapons were ranging between like 90-97, now with expansion we have level 99 base weapons. I don't think the gap will be as bad once the buff comes for REMs, but it should still be a noticeable gap.
Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
Some facts:
Skirmish weapons take about 30 minutes to get, if you're lucky.
Skirmish weapons take about 30 minutes to get, if you're lucky.
Technically true, but you are talking about a HUGE amount of luck. +2 stones are rare off T1 pops, and the right weapon would have to drop, you have to win lot on the weapon and the augment would have to not suck. If even one of those points isn't fulfilled, back to farming/buying pops for another try.
Now, if you have to try multiple times for that rare. perfect +2 augment, you'll end up spending more than the 90m that relics are at currently, especially when you start trying to buy T3-5 pops. All depends on the RNG and your luck with it I guess. That's a lot of luck to consider something a "fact" imho.
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Skirmish entry will not sustain at current prices even if SE has to adjust the rate at which pieces are obtained
They don't have the staff to support the development of content that carries a 10+m pricetag on entry
They don't have the staff to support the development of content that carries a 10+m pricetag on entry
Hopefully the future augment wont require your R/M/E to be afterglow'd. ;;
Angeljcar said: »
Hopefully the future augment wont require your R/M/E to be afterglow'd. ;;
Seriously do people not read '~'
They directly stated this already
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Angeljcar said: »
Hopefully the future augment wont require your R/M/E to be afterglow'd. ;;
Stop bringing this up, SE has already stated afterglow won't be mandatory.
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Because OP is all the devs have said ever.
Not doing research before making a post just makes you look ignorant at best, and pants-on-head-HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE at worst. And ever worse so when the question has been answered at least twice IN THIS THREAD ITSELF.
Not doing research before making a post just makes you look ignorant at best, and pants-on-head-HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE at worst. And ever worse so when the question has been answered at least twice IN THIS THREAD ITSELF.
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
Because OP is all the devs have said ever.
Not doing research before making a post just makes you look ignorant at best, and pants-on-head-HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE at worst. And ever worse so when the question has been answered at least twice IN THIS THREAD ITSELF.
Not doing research before making a post just makes you look ignorant at best, and pants-on-head-HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE at worst. And ever worse so when the question has been answered at least twice IN THIS THREAD ITSELF.
Oh snap, your witty comeback has completely invalidated my point and proven you to be the mental superior of the human race.
I ain't mad, you're just lazy. (as your "rebuttal" verifies)
And to provide something on-topic: I hope SE is planning preset upgrades on RME99s. I don't think I'd be happy with having to fight r.n.g. to try for "optimal" augments.
I ain't mad, you're just lazy. (as your "rebuttal" verifies)
And to provide something on-topic: I hope SE is planning preset upgrades on RME99s. I don't think I'd be happy with having to fight r.n.g. to try for "optimal" augments.
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Sylph.Mirvana said: »
Oh snap, your witty comeback has completely invalidated my point and proven you to be the mental superior of the human race.
I ain't mad, you're just lazy. (as your "rebuttal" verifies)
And to provide something on-topic: I hope SE is planning preset upgrades on RME99s. I don't think I'd be happy with having to fight r.n.g. to try for "optimal" augments.
I ain't mad, you're just lazy. (as your "rebuttal" verifies)
And to provide something on-topic: I hope SE is planning preset upgrades on RME99s. I don't think I'd be happy with having to fight r.n.g. to try for "optimal" augments.
Edit: Sort of how +1 items have better potential then NQ items.
I'd expect lv99 version to be a prerequisite for any upgrades. As has been stated, <99 versions still have the upgrades of "finish the trials" available.
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
I'd expect lv99 version to be a prerequisite for any upgrades. As has been stated, <99 versions still have the upgrades of "finish the trials" available.
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
H2H might be due for a damage ramp like daggers got back in 2007
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
I'd expect lv99 version to be a prerequisite for any upgrades. As has been stated, <99 versions still have the upgrades of "finish the trials" available.
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
However, something like adding a slight increase to base damage could be scaled to lower level versions with a sizeable jump from 95>>99
Be prepared to be yelled at for this statement like I did, I hope you got a flame shield.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I just used it, searched returned nothing btw. (I'm not arguing against the statements about 99 afterglow, just posting that your link is bad)
Sylph.Mirvana said: »
H2H might be due for a damage ramp like daggers got back in 2007
Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »
Be prepared to be yelled at for this statement like I did, I hope you got a flame shield.
You got flamed for suggesting no one would use RME's if base damage was increased without an aftermath update to coincide.
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