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 Gilgamesh.Minusseven
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2009-06-27 19:20:46  
basically, my two main jobs are/will be thf and drk, i wanted to get a merc kris for my thf, but i heard its also good on drk which i think would be way cooler and more fun than a scythe or some ***. as for main hand Tactician Magician's Espadon looked good cus of good damage and +12 attack for when i hit 50 (drk are best with sword and axes as 1 handed weps).

So anyways just wanted confirmation that merc kris can be good with drk and would axes or swords be better main hand for WS etc and which ones :)
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 Kujata.Jennypoo
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By Kujata.Jennypoo 2009-06-27 19:22:06  
NO GTFO *Crushes dreams*

Jk..

m kris is an acceptable zerg weapon for drk. ^-^
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 Gilgamesh.Minusseven
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2009-06-27 19:23:57  
Jennypoo said:
NO GTFO, I HATE YOU, YOU SUCK *Crushes dreams*



/cry
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By Lakshmi.Zaps 2009-06-27 19:25:57  
Mkris is only to be used on drk when your 2hour zerging something. As far as having it on thf, it can be acceptable to offhand while meriting. It's basically situational on both jobs. For thf you'd be better off off handing a sirocco kukri anyways.
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 Bahamut.Rumaha
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-06-27 19:26:34  
Axes WS are much better so yea Rampage
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By Kujata.Jennypoo 2009-06-27 19:27:15  
Zaps said:
For thf you'd be better off off handing a sirocco kukri anyways.


yes, however i must admit that kris is situational fun for thf as well (farming "Too Weak" mobs, etc)
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 Gilgamesh.Minusseven
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2009-06-27 19:29:47  
im only 55 thf atm, so it will get some use... :p
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-06-27 19:42:44  
swd ws= fail. If your gonna xp on drk/nin for the dual weild stick to dual axes. Or ax/ridill
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 Bahamut.Dracondria
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By Bahamut.Dracondria 2009-06-27 19:46:04  
Skip /nin and go /war or something with GA for sturmwind until Guillotine.
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-06-27 20:15:37  
I have an mkris, and I never ever used it on drk other than zerging, because it's useless for anything else.
I use it as cor\nin sometimes in meritparties (joyeuse\mkris) but that actually feed way too much tp, so mkris is kinda useless for normal stuff... awsome for zerging, lame for anything else! (might be ok offhand for a thf in some situations)
The dmg is reaaally low, so the dot sucks bigtime.. 5-9 dmg\hit vs a mob that's weak vs piercing = not cool

Edit: Stick to \sam and go Scythe or Great Sword! way better.
Lack of axe-skill = harder to land all rampage-hits = sucky dmg
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-06-27 20:52:16  
Basically DW DRK is never gonna do more damage than 2handed DRK above 60. /nin gimps DRK and DW gimps drk further. Therefore /nin DW drk = gimp^2.
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 Bahamut.Stanflame
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-06-27 22:16:24  
I would not really call it gimp people have their choices. Riddy and what ever I doubt people would called a /nin drk gimp if they had those =x
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By Cerberus.Geldric 2009-06-27 22:38:41  
Ridill post 2h update is considered gimp. War with a gaxe can outparse an axe/ridill War. Drk with a scythe can outparse a drk with axe/ridill.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-06-27 23:06:48  
Raenryong said:
Basically DW DRK is never gonna do more damage than 2handed DRK above 60. /nin gimps DRK and DW gimps drk further. Therefore /nin DW drk = gimp^2.


^ this.

If you are gonna zerg with drk..KC or gtfo.
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By Pandemonium.Liquidz 2009-06-27 23:18:34  
Dubont said:


If you are gonna zerg with drk..KC or gtfo.


rofl come on you can still do very decent zerg without a KC.
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By Cerberus.Geldric 2009-06-27 23:24:24  
Liquidz said:
Dubont said:


If you are gonna zerg with drk..KC or gtfo.


rofl come on you can still do very decent zerg without a KC.


^
KC is top zerg weapon. Unless some test I wasn't aware of with Apoc changed that. Can do zerg with kris, kc, apoc, b.scythe, rune chopper, and whatever else and still put out great numbers.
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-06-27 23:31:09  
Must.... crush.... dreams..... o.o
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By Bahamut.Dracondria 2009-06-28 00:17:26  
Geldric said:
Liquidz said:
Dubont said:


If you are gonna zerg with drk..KC or gtfo.


rofl come on you can still do very decent zerg without a KC.


^
KC is top zerg weapon. Unless some test I wasn't aware of with Apoc changed that. Can do zerg with kris, kc, apoc, b.scythe, rune chopper, and whatever else and still put out great numbers.


2 handed aren't as good after the haste gimping.
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By Asura.Slamm 2009-06-28 04:55:57  
drk/nin is useless..

sub sam for normal pt and use scythe or greatsword depending on the situation.

for zerg if you are using m kris or kc can go /drg for wyvern earring
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By Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu 2009-06-28 05:17:01  
If you HAVE to go /nin don't melee with daggers D: Zerg onry! Even better, that 3.2mil from m.kriss could get you moliones set, dusk, and a hauberk+1 :D
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By Asura.Shua 2009-06-28 05:22:54  
Kunimitsu said:
If you HAVE to go /nin don't melee with daggers D: Zerg onry! Even better, that 3.2mil from m.kriss could get you moliones set, dusk, and a hauberk+1 :D


For the love of god, buy Tred scythe -.-
Merit Scythe 8 times and get Abysall earring if your worried about ACC.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-06-28 05:40:19  
Geldric said:
Ridill post 2h update is considered gimp. War with a gaxe can outparse an axe/ridill War. Drk with a scythe can outparse a drk with axe/ridill.


ofcourse i'd still want one though.

can you stop me from getting one i doubt it.... everyone is the same they ant everything who does not know they need m.kris or kclub to zerge are you that slow?

I said he can get a riddy if he wants stop trying to tell people wtf to do end of discussion.

plus its a low lv player asking for advice why the *** are you eltist wannabe retards bombarding him with end game ***...?
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By Carbuncle.Cianti 2009-06-28 06:09:44  
Bahamut Zagh is acceptable form of zerg...
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 Gilgamesh.Minusseven
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By Gilgamesh.Minusseven 2009-06-28 06:47:57  
well, ive spent most my time leveling crafts, and am going to carry on to cap them so i can buy all the gear i want, so i guess i will just test out all different things. Im still going to get Mkris for thf, so will always be able to try it out and if it sucks in dual weild compared to scythe ill be put off. In the end ill end up with what is most ownage/fun.

On another note, obv drk has mp and can use spells, but i hear more HP makes for better soul eater, so is it best to sub out hp for mp or the otherway round?
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By Bismarck.Verace 2009-06-28 07:22:50  
im a DRK with MK only use offhand when haveing "fun" ie messing around allways use Scythe and Great Sword in pt Zerg with MK its the second best Zerg weapon ingame allso handy for NIN/DNC if u wanted to play NIN sometime to 75 THF its ok for meriting and killing too weaks ie farming dont ever sub NIN to DRK in pt idc if its merit or not /SAM is defencive and offenceive
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By Cerberus.Geldric 2009-06-28 08:59:30  
Stanflame said:
Geldric said:
Ridill post 2h update is considered gimp. War with a gaxe can outparse an axe/ridill War. Drk with a scythe can outparse a drk with axe/ridill.


ofcourse i'd still want one though.

can you stop me from getting one i doubt it.... everyone is the same they ant everything who does not know they need m.kris or kclub to zerge are you that slow?

I said he can get a riddy if he wants stop trying to tell people wtf to do end of discussion.

plus its a low lv player asking for advice why the *** are you eltist wannabe retards bombarding him with end game ***...?


Really hoping that isn't directed at me..
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By Asura.Shua 2009-06-28 09:06:43  
Minusseven said:
well, ive spent most my time leveling crafts, and am going to carry on to cap them so i can buy all the gear i want, so i guess i will just test out all different things. Im still going to get Mkris for thf, so will always be able to try it out and if it sucks in dual weild compared to scythe ill be put off. In the end ill end up with what is most ownage/fun.

On another note, obv drk has mp and can use spells, but i hear more HP makes for better soul eater, so is it best to sub out hp for mp or the otherway round?


Dude just dont play drk anymore.

+HP For zerg.
+ACC For Exp.
+Haste For Exp. (when you cap ACC)
In this order usually.
+MP Never.

End of story.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-06-28 09:12:18  
Shua said:
For the love of god, buy Tred scythe -.-
Merit Scythe 8 times and get Abysall earring if your worried about ACC.


Moliones and Perdu both handily defeat Tredecim if you have a Rajas Ring.
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By Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu 2009-06-28 14:51:33  
Shua said:
Kunimitsu said:
If you HAVE to go /nin don't melee with daggers D: Zerg onry! Even better, that 3.2mil from m.kriss could get you moliones set, dusk, and a hauberk+1 :D


For the love of god, buy Tred scythe -.-
Merit Scythe 8 times and get Abysall earring if your worried about ACC.


lol? I've merited scthe 8 times, I have abyssal, and moliones wins. Tred is useful for certain situations. But generally the combo of 3STR and 4STR/5acc in the ring will beat a crit every 13th hit (which doesnt proc on ws)

And yeah, in exp don't worry about mp. half the time you wont be able to use it anyway =[ But if you are the odd refresh will do you.
Shua said:

Dude just dont play drk anymore.

+HP For zerg.
+ACC For Exp.
+Haste For Exp. (when you cap ACC)
In this order usually.
+MP Never.

End of story.


He's asking advise before he lvl's why should he not play DRK anymore? But really -7, the higher you get the more you will notice the benefits of scythe. For one when you hit 75 yoru dagegr skill will be 225, while scythe is at 276, a huge difference. Without the +acc from souleater/ feint, your gonna have a hard time. Try it out for yourself seeing as your getting one anyway. Just try and keep scythe capped too :P
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-06-28 14:55:07  
Minusseven... no!

There is absolutely no reason to gimp yourself as DRK/NIN, even with a scythe. And if you gonna use loldaggers, just kill yourself.

Keep the /NIN for THF and /SAM for DRK, you'll feel better about yourself.
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