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All my +'s for using the phrase "windowlickers"

Very late to the convo (real life *** sucks at times) but just wanted to toss a few things out, my 2 cents as it were. I know i will probably get flamed for some of my thoughts but i don't care, it's my oppinion and you can take it or leave it for what it is.

I honestly do not care about gear upgrades or side grades or anything. I am happy that i have a new expansion to play around in, explore, and do new stuff in. I had completed every single major story line and was constantly getting bored of farming for apocalypse or trying to level up more jobs just for fun. For a while i let the masses decide on what i should do. For example when abyssea came out i let my pld languish because it became "Useless" with abyssea stuff. Then came voidwatch but people demanded a relic or empy to do it. So i quit pld and focused on my second 75 job, DRK. Turns out it worked great for me and i geared it extremely well, again using info from the masses on how to maximize the job. I still do not use scripts and also still use ingame macro's for everything i do, but i make it work.

But now, after playing for 7 years, I have reached a point where i am just sitting back and just playing the game just to play it. I LOVE the fact that i now have two new jobs to level with my good friend. Not much beats the sight of you and your best friends character leveling up at the same time as you both work your way at slowly leveling up the old way, and just enjoying the memories that come with it. For example we got a little big for our breeches and went to a higher level orc area a little too soon and got our *** kicked, but we laughed about it and still had fun.


What i am saying is, take a page out of my book. Stop worrying so much about what you CANNOT control. You can't force SE to do one thing or the other. You CAN'T force old gear to be relavent, or i might still be using Kirin's Osode or something. Yes, it will suck if they completely outclass our old gear but so what? You will still get the new gear sooner or later and you can't really change that fact so why worry?

Play the game, enjoy the time on it with friends, enjoy the new story line and new quests. Worry less and remember that this is a game, something to do after you get off work from a VERY long and hard day to unwind.

TL;DR: Don't worry, Be happy

Imagine the butthurt if it turns out these also have a hidden 2x modifier like relics.

Which gets to the other problem: it would be one thing if we were being railroaded into actual new content, but I have yet to hear anyone satisfactorily explain how Reives/Imprimaturs are even a little bit different than Campaign Battles/Ops.

Or, the 'augment' is new powerful WS's.

It went from exp grind to gear grind. IMO

There has always been a gear grind in XI.

this is new, and exciting

Devs had said they're going to adjust R/E/M to not be outdated. They didn't say that they'd still be the best... just that they would still be at least in the same ballpark.

Today they added significant improvements to their new, not-yet-obtained weapons.

I see people complaining about this. I see people saying that this makes R/E/M worse, and it's no longer worth pursuing such weapons.

I propose a different mindset: this is a GOOD omen for R/E/M owners, and greater incentive to start working on such.


Let me put it this way: pretend that a genie granted you a wish that, by the end of the year, your bank account would hold, say, between 90-110% of the same amount of money as your next-door neighbor. In other words, in the same financial ballpark.

And then a millionaire moves in next door.

Do you start complaining about how much money the millionaire has? Or do you start planning purchases to make with 90-100% of a millionaire's bank account? You may not have MORE money than the millionaire, you may not even have quite AS MUCH money as the millionaire... but his very presence promises you a very rich payout in the long run.

Will it still be worthwhile to pursue the new weapons if you've already got R/E/M? Quite possibly. But until the new weapons are implemented, at least, there's a fair argument that R/E/M weapons just became a BETTER choice than they were before (especially compared to, say, VW or AH or Magian OAT/TP bonus weapons).

Btw... I was thinking about how they would implement improvements to R/E/M, mechanically.

One simple way is to increase base damage, of course, but I'm not sure how easy it is for them to change those statistics on items with... 'customizable' data, such as trial records or storage slips or crafter signatures or charges. If Magian Trial information is stored on the item itself, rather than as a hidden entry on the character specifically, then it may be necessary to complete or cancel any active trial on the weapon before it can be upgraded.

Another way to improve the weapons would be to improve aftermath effects - for example, increasing the weapon's base damage significantly while under aftermath. This would encourage putting up aftermath for all R/E/M weapons (even relic aftermaths which are kinda 'meh' otherwise). Could also theoretically have gear with added effects while under aftermath (possibly as an augment option).

Not looking back to see if this has been posted, but this was the update.

At the following time, a version update was performed on FINAL FANTASY XI.

[Date & Time]
Apr. 2, 2013 at 10:00 (PDT)

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI

[Update Details]
- The damage on the following items has been adjusted.
Camatlatia / Tlalpoloani / Suijingiri KM / Macoquetza / Zoquittihuitz / Icoyoca

- The following issues have been addressed.

* An issue wherein the job requirement for the following items are incorrect.
Seidr Cotehardie / Rubeus Jacket / Pharmakeia Robe / Tethyan Saio / Tethyan Saio +1 / Tethyan Saio +2 / Tethyan Saio +3 / Rubeus Gloves / Repartie Gloves / Tethyan Cuffs / Tethyan Cuffs +1 / Tethyan Cuffs +2 / Tethyan Cuffs +3 / Nares Cuffs / Tethyan Trews / Tethyan Trews +1 / Tethyan Trews +2 / Tethyan Trews +3 / Nares Trews / Lefay Brais / Rubeus Boots / Tethyan Clogs / Tethyan Clogs +1 / Tethyan Clogs +2 / Tethyan Clogs +3 / Nares Clogs / Maquette Ring

* Description for the item “Matre Bell” is missing “MP+5.”

* Description for the item “Vineslash Cesti” is missing a “+” after the “Delay:”

* Following items cannot be delivered to the characters under the same account.
Frayed Pouch (B) / Frayed Pouch (A) / Frayed Pouch (G) / Frayed Pouch (D) / Frayed Pouch (R) / Frayed Sack (D) / Frayed Sack (L)

* A mining point may appear at an unreachable location if the quest “A Stone's Throw Away” is not progressed.

* The Waypoints at Eastern and Western Adoulin are not recorded when a player warps to Ceizak Battlegrounds during the Seekers of Adoulin mission "Onward to Adoulin".

?The “/hurray” motion while equipping the item “Coalition Axe” is incorrect.

* The level that players can obtain the geomancy “Geo-Precision” is incorrect.

* If a player accepts the quest “Grind to Sawdust” before initiating a Colonization Reive, the player won’t obtain bayld upon completion of the quest.

* The Momentum Bonus “Attack Bonus” and “Magic Atk. Bonus” overwrites the effect of abilities.

* Synthesis skill does not increase during the Moblin Maze Monger “Materialization Team” and “Liquidation Team.”

* [PlayStation 2 only] Screen freezes during the mission “Into the Beast's Maw.”

You had missed the point. Just enjoy the game. Experience the new story line. Just randomly explore new areas. Hate to say it but just like every single other game you have ever played, MMO or otherwise, No matter how good your character gets or what bad *** gear you get, it will one day just be a memory. Why not augment those memories with other things like;


"Hey, remember that time we ran into that NM that nearly wiped us but we managed to kill it and got a cool shiney?"

or

"Hey, remember that time so and so didnt know if something aggroed and ended up training the whole zone to and still died 2 feet from the zone line?"

Just sayin

99 r/e/m are already in the same ballpark as those weapons, they're behind in some cases and ahead in most

it's more akin to buying a bugatti right before a new auto company releases a superior car for a fraction of the price, they'll probably still be similar and the bugatti is more swag, but you still got ripped off

So with the title of the thread as it was you didn't think 9 pages would have posted the update notes yet? lol

To be fair, it's usually in the first post and not on the 3rd page.

WHERE IS TEH KALI?

That *** ***better have a hidden effect of "Can't WS with this ***" Or i'll cry a new river... Spharai better not be made redundant...

I am relatively sure the KI to enter a Naakual Reive comes from the Skirmish fights, and the JP Dev team / community reps couldn't even beat that with GM auto-kill commands.

A better weapon being released doesn't make your weapon awful.

That was pretty funny.

I think you mean "obsolete", no?

Unless it's Gungnir.

Gungnir was awful on arrival!

You can't blame the better weapon for that.

Actually you can blame the job that has less Attack than Dancer.

I think more people are concerned about the time/effort/resources that went into obtaining their weapon(s). So unless those items are harder to obtain than R/E/M 99, that statement doesn't matter much. Nobody would give a damn if SE released a weapon that outclassed their AH-bought weapon.

Err....change of subject?

I am aware, however the newer weapon being released doesn't take away what you currently have. It took me over 150 tries to get the Twilight Mail, it took another vast amount of time to complete the Ogiers set, get Mekira Meikogai from Kaggen, and well the list goes on. When better things come out, I don't complain that what I have at the current moment isn't as good as what recently came out in terms of equipment, this happens in MMOs all the time. I understand why people can complain, but I myself don't think it's really that great of deal in my point of view.

I'm almost done with my Masamune and I'm still not concerned, I honestly like the ideal of getting stronger, newer equipment with the updates.

yeah but, a 85 masamune is nothing

What if they add more trials to augment R/E/M via Adoulin? To increase their base DMG and such.

You mean in the same way they said they wouldnt?

Yes exactly like that!